why dont more of you just ctb with a firearm if your 100% convineced thats what you want to do?

[itriedinthislife2]

I'm not in the US so I can't obtain a gun. If I could, I would have pulled the trigger already.

Idk why but I feel like there's been an influx in users who keep on talking about how easy suicide is and how those who want to die will find a way to die otherwise they want to live. It's just- fuck, I joined this site to escape pro life bullshit like that, not to be indulged in it even more

ill take my life when i get ahold of the iron and document it... no hesitation here lol

thanks for letting me know a gunshot to the head will kill me.

yeah fatal lol. i know ur being sarcastic but its funny

 

[CogitoMori]

waste of a good gun, when what your.... dead with ur brain spalttered all over the walls?

I appreciate craftsmen and guns are expensive and require skill to smith

 

[itriedinthislife2]

Many people don't want a violent death even if it gets it done in less of a sec, think about this you can get hit by a train or jump from a building you will be done fast but it gets a lot of guts to do that method

fair enough.. death with a firearm would be my first and second would actually by hanging quite frankily

There are several reasons why I wouldn't use a firearm.

1. They freak me out. I've lost way too many family and friends to gun violence and just being around them makes me anxious.
2. Too expensive. Where I reside, it's hard to get a firearm. Even harder when you don't have the money for them.
3. The mess. I already feel like I'm enough of a burden, so I much rather not burden them more with the cleanup as well.
4. Such a sight would be too traumatizing. At least if I went out with sn or oding, I would at least look somewhat normal to those who find me.
5. I live close to a school. I do not need to freak out parents and children who are uninvolved.

valid points

I appreciate craftsmen and guns are expensive and require skill to smith

i guess if 500 for a handgun to end it once and for all is expensive than sure. surely better than suffering if ur rlly serious about CTBing. nobody can answer that except u

 

[L'absent]

I've been frequenting this forum for a while, and I've noticed one thing: people often confuse suicide with suicidal ideation. Let's be clear: most people here don't really want to die. They live in a fragile balance where the idea of suicide becomes a way to survive, to cope with daily pain. It's a valve of release, a thought that comforts, because there's always a "plan B" in the back of their mind.
Let's not fool ourselves: suicide itself isn't "difficult." It's final, raw, and immediate. Someone who truly wants to end their life doesn't spend months or years pondering methods or seeking comfort in forums. They act. Period. Those who hang themselves in 99% of cases don't even know where the carotid arteries or the brainstem are. This is why more lethal methods, like a firearm, are so devastating: they leave no margin for error, except for a tiny, insignificant minority. There is no "failure" with a gun; there are just inexperienced people, like in any other field. It's like riding a bicycle: there's no guarantee you won't fall, but if you're experienced, the risk is minimal. Yet, my schoolmate has broken all her bones and suffered a head trauma, and she still keeps falling.
A firearm, in particular, doesn't leave room for endless, inconclusive attempts. There's no room for second thoughts or partial failures. That's why it's hated by many users: it eliminates the possibility of procrastination, of seeking another way, of clinging to that "maybe tomorrow" that so many tell themselves. It's a method that ends the game.
So why so many "failed" attempts? Because suicidal ideation isn't a real desire to die, it's a cry for help, a survival strategy. It's living in a limbo between pain and hope, a way for many people to hold on to life, paradoxically through the thought of death.
This doesn't diminish the suffering of those who talk about it, but it highlights the intent of those who want to portray suicide as something complex or unachievable. The act itself isn't complicated; it's facing the pain, the emptiness, the loneliness. The truth is that, in many cases, the thought of suicide doesn't lead to the end, but becomes the engine to keep living one more day.

 

[itriedinthislife2]

I've been frequenting this forum for a while, and I've noticed one thing: people often confuse suicide with suicidal ideation. Let's be clear: most people here don't really want to die. They live in a fragile balance where the idea of suicide becomes a way to survive, to cope with daily pain. It's a valve of release, a thought that comforts, because there's always a "plan B" in the back of their mind.
Let's not fool ourselves: suicide itself isn't "difficult." It's final, raw, and immediate. Someone who truly wants to end their life doesn't spend months or years pondering methods or seeking comfort in forums. They act. Period. Those who hang themselves in 99% of cases don't even know where the carotid arteries or the brainstem are. This is why more lethal methods, like a firearm, are so devastating: they leave no margin for error, except for a tiny, insignificant minority. There is no "failure" with a gun; there are just inexperienced people, like in any other field. It's like riding a bicycle: there's no guarantee you won't fall, but if you're experienced, the risk is minimal. Yet, my schoolmate has broken all her bones and suffered a head trauma, and she still keeps falling.
A firearm, in particular, doesn't leave room for endless, inconclusive attempts. There's no room for second thoughts or partial failures. That's why it's hated by many users: it eliminates the possibility of procrastination, of seeking another way, of clinging to that "maybe tomorrow" that so many tell themselves. It's a method that ends the game.
So why so many "failed" attempts? Because suicidal ideation isn't a real desire to die, it's a cry for help, a survival strategy. It's living in a limbo between pain and hope, a way for many people to hold on to life, paradoxically through the thought of death.
This doesn't diminish the suffering of those who talk about it, but it highlights the intent of those who want to portray suicide as something complex or unachievable. The act itself isn't complicated; it's facing the pain, the emptiness, the loneliness. The truth is that, in many cases, the thought of suicide doesn't lead to the end, but becomes the engine to keep living one more day.

i couldnt agree more. absolutely. i promise you im not one of those comforter attempters. i joined the forum today. the moment i get my hands on that gun im going to get hammered and blow my brains out, might even live stream it on tiktok

I've been frequenting this forum for a while, and I've noticed one thing: people often confuse suicide with suicidal ideation. Let's be clear: most people here don't really want to die. They live in a fragile balance where the idea of suicide becomes a way to survive, to cope with daily pain. It's a valve of release, a thought that comforts, because there's always a "plan B" in the back of their mind.
Let's not fool ourselves: suicide itself isn't "difficult." It's final, raw, and immediate. Someone who truly wants to end their life doesn't spend months or years pondering methods or seeking comfort in forums. They act. Period. Those who hang themselves in 99% of cases don't even know where the carotid arteries or the brainstem are. This is why more lethal methods, like a firearm, are so devastating: they leave no margin for error, except for a tiny, insignificant minority. There is no "failure" with a gun; there are just inexperienced people, like in any other field. It's like riding a bicycle: there's no guarantee you won't fall, but if you're experienced, the risk is minimal. Yet, my schoolmate has broken all her bones and suffered a head trauma, and she still keeps falling.
A firearm, in particular, doesn't leave room for endless, inconclusive attempts. There's no room for second thoughts or partial failures. That's why it's hated by many users: it eliminates the possibility of procrastination, of seeking another way, of clinging to that "maybe tomorrow" that so many tell themselves. It's a method that ends the game.
So why so many "failed" attempts? Because suicidal ideation isn't a real desire to die, it's a cry for help, a survival strategy. It's living in a limbo between pain and hope, a way for many people to hold on to life, paradoxically through the thought of death.
This doesn't diminish the suffering of those who talk about it, but it highlights the intent of those who want to portray suicide as something complex or unachievable. The act itself isn't complicated; it's facing the pain, the emptiness, the loneliness. The truth is that, in many cases, the thought of suicide doesn't lead to the end, but becomes the engine to keep living one more day.

exactly. i find it funny that some people think they will survive a 9mm to the head or even a .45 from a good conditioned gun. i dont know if they say that to comfort themself in the fact that they cant get a gun themself. i can assure u everyone that viewed this forum including me and u would NOT survive from lets say a good old smith and wesson 9mm and ill make sure to use hollow tips... almost a better chance at winning the lottery

I worked in emergency medical services before recently getting a corporate job. I guess I'll share a bit of my own input.

In the past, I saw someone who blew half their head off with a shotgun. I could see skull fragments on the floor. The apartment was painted with blood and brain matter. However, they still had a pulse and even a detectable blood pressure (very low but definitely still detectable) when we got there. The patient flatlined in the ambulance and ultimately didn't survive. However, seeing that their death wasn't instant made my imagination run wild about whether they felt pain during their last moments. I'm not going to guilt trip anyone by saying something like "first responders would not want to find you like that because it's gruesome." That's the job we signed up for and we know that we're going to see gruesome things sometimes. All I'm going to say is that not every suicidal person is ok with being found in a bloody mess with like half their head missing. If you're ok with that, that's your prerogative, but it's wrong for you to judge people for choosing methods that don't mangle them to the point of requiring a closed casket funeral.

I myself was banned from buying guns because I was involuntarily committed to the psych ward. I think the risk of catching a charge is unacceptably high considering how hard I've worked to get to where I am with my career, so buying a gun illegally is not something I'm willing to consider. You're right that maybe I just don't want to die enough. I won't deny that because I'm not even actively suicidal at the moment. However, you don't get to ask me why I'm still here despite not being actively suicidal. I guess the gist of my post is that it's important to respect what people want for themselves. A significant number of users here want to die but not all of them do. Out of the ones who do want to die, most have their own rationale for their chosen method and it's not your place to debate with them on whether their rationale is right or wrong. Deciding whether to continue living or to end your life is literally the most personal decision someone can make for themselves. As a forum we're pro choice, meaning that we believe that people should have the freedom to choose what they want to do with their lives, as long as they have the capacity to make an informed decision. Not everyone here would want to use firearms as their method even if it was accessible. So be it. Sue me.

fair point cant argue with that and its a personal decision yeah i agree, absolutely! good old fashioned one and done

i want to be a positive person and not be negative and i respect other peoples decisions to go out but lets be honest, if you really want to die, the LAST thing you want is an attempt. i mean really if i woke up in the ICU i would be screaming in hate and the moment i could end it again i would but i wouldnt be able to because why, psych ward, close monitoring etc. its a game. for the ones that really want to end it we will (including me) we have it planned out to the fact that it is NOT an attempt. no cry for helps from me other than the people i choose to have in my life for the comfort that i want to have for the last month or so i am here

 

[sximii]

Unfortunately I'm not American. In my country you can only have a gun if your police or military, it's EXTREMELY difficult to get your hands on one.

 

[zengiraffe]

I've had a firearm for a couple years now but haven't been able to use it on myself yet. SI is very hard to overcome.

 

[purelydaft]

i couldnt agree more. absolutely. i promise you im not one of those comforter attempters. i joined the forum today. the moment i get my hands on that gun im going to get hammered and blow my brains out, might even live stream it on tiktok

exactly. i find it funny that some people think they will survive a 9mm to the head or even a .45 from a good conditioned gun. i dont know if they say that to comfort themself in the fact that they cant get a gun themself. i can assure u everyone that viewed this forum including me and u would NOT survive from lets say a good old smith and wesson 9mm and ill make sure to use hollow tips... almost a better chance at winning the lottery

fair point cant argue with that and its a personal decision yeah i agree, absolutely! good old fashioned one and done

i want to be a positive person and not be negative and i respect other peoples decisions to go out but lets be honest, if you really want to die, the LAST thing you want is an attempt. i mean really if i woke up in the ICU i would be screaming in hate and the moment i could end it again i would but i wouldnt be able to because why, psych ward, close monitoring etc. its a game. for the ones that really want to end it we will (including me) we have it planned out to the fact that it is NOT an attempt. no cry for helps from me other than the people i choose to have in my life for the comfort that i want to have for the last month or so i am here

You're not realistically going to survive hanging either, but you're waiting for a gun. If you think about why, I think you'll find the answers to what you're asking.

 

[AFinalJourney]

I would if I had access to a gun, which I unfortunately do not.

 

[alltoomuch2]

this is not how survival instinct works. if you know it sounds bad maybe don't say it, because you're coming off as an incredibly inconsiderate person right now.

Yeah. I'm putting them on ignore. This borders on encouragement I'd say

lets not pretend like the chance of you surviving a 9mm hollow tip even fmj to the head is probably 3% if even that lmao

seems like the best way and probably the way ill be going out. also, its always good to have a gun as a way out of things just become unbearable?
not that SN doesnt work but a nice 9mm to the dome would do it for 98% of you, lets not be silly. maybe some of you cant obtain them but maybe the local thugs/ goons?

Are you over 18 can I ask? Do you by any chance watch a lot of wpd. Because you're coming across as an insensitive arse who's bordering on encouragement to ctb.

 

[Valhala]

Because firearms are much harder to come by unless you live in war torn areas - very simple.

 

[needthebus]

If you are involuntarily committed, you can't legally buy guns in the US. it's why the government is so eager to commit everyone who calls 988, because then they can't purchase guns after, which is staffed with paid clinicians in training who get credit towards licensing by committing people. This is also why many men never get psychiatric help in the US, since psychiatric help is always a one-way ticket to never being able to buy a gun and do other things that normal men can do. You are a different kind of man once you get psychiatric help in the US, and real men know it or wish they had known it.

I wish more people were warned about the dangers of calling 988 for help. It is a life-destroying hotline. Choose life or choose death or choose waiting to see if you feel better or worse but never choose 988. And if you ever want to buy a gun, never see a psychiatrist or therapist, as they will put you in a database so the government is aware of whatever diagnosis they decided you have - and they always give a patient a diagnosis or else insurance doesn't cover what they do. If a person sees a psychiatrist and says "I'm so sad" if the doctor says "You aren't clinically depressed, but here's some Prozac" then insurance won't cover the visits. So you get a diagnosis and Prozac, they get paid by insurance, and you also get put in a government database.

Many of the people on here from the US would purchase guns and end their lives but since there are obstacles, they seek out equally lethal methods which are often more traumatic for others. Many people on here would gladly welcome a comfortable hotel room and a gun. There are also people on here who are very undecided and having a method that is easy to keep hidden so that they can ctb quickly is helpful. Many people were also afraid in the US of Biden and his anti-gun hysteria since he was actively trying to confiscate guns from as many people as possible.

It is also hard to make requests of such a nature to the "local goons" if you look like you never leave the home and aren't a part of thug culture. Perhaps if you are a drug addict someone could make an introduction, but it's sketchy and risky as hell to do. The goon could also think it's a setup to bust them. There's also a big risk of them saying they are willing to do it, beating the shit out of you later, and robbing you. Who would you complain to if that happened? No one, that's who.

Your post implies it's easy to die and we're all just attention seeking weaklings and it's really not accurate for many, but not all, of the people on here.

 

[itriedinthislife2]

if you are involuntarily committed, you can't legally buy guns. it's why the government is so eager to commit everyone who calls 988, because then they can't purchase guns after, which is staffed with paid clinicians in training who get credit towards licensing by committing people. This is also why many men never get psychiatric help in the US, since psychiatric help is always a one-way ticket to never being able to buy a gun and do other things that normal men can do. You are a different kind of man once you get psychiatric help in the US, and real men know it or wish they had known it.

I wish more people were warned about the dangers of calling 988 for help. It is a life-destroying hotline. Choose life or choose death or choose waiting to see if you feel better or worse but never choose 988.

exactly this is why ive never told anyone about suicide or anything. i got a clean record and never mentioned it to anyone once

If you are involuntarily committed, you can't legally buy guns in the US. it's why the government is so eager to commit everyone who calls 988, because then they can't purchase guns after, which is staffed with paid clinicians in training who get credit towards licensing by committing people. This is also why many men never get psychiatric help in the US, since psychiatric help is always a one-way ticket to never being able to buy a gun and do other things that normal men can do. You are a different kind of man once you get psychiatric help in the US, and real men know it or wish they had known it.

I wish more people were warned about the dangers of calling 988 for help. It is a life-destroying hotline. Choose life or choose death or choose waiting to see if you feel better or worse but never choose 988. And if you ever want to buy a gun, never see a psychiatrist or therapist, as they will put you in a database so the government is aware of whatever diagnosis they decided you have - and they always give a patient a diagnosis or else insurance doesn't cover what they do. If a person sees a psychiatrist and says "I'm so sad" if the doctor says "You aren't clinically depressed, but here's some Prozac" then insurance won't cover the visits. So you get a diagnosis and Prozac, they get paid by insurance, and you also get put in a government database.

Many of the people on here from the US would purchase guns and end their lives but since there are obstacles, they seek out equally lethal methods which are often more traumatic for others, like jumping off buildings or laying down on train tracks. Many people on here would gladly welcome a comfortable hotel room and a gun. There are also people on here who are very undecided and having a method that is easy to keep hidden so that they can ctb quickly is helpful. Many people were also afraid in the US of Biden and his anti-gun hysteria since he was actively trying to confiscate guns from as many people as possible.

i choose death and soon as i get my hand on that gun

If you are involuntarily committed, you can't legally buy guns in the US. it's why the government is so eager to commit everyone who calls 988, because then they can't purchase guns after, which is staffed with paid clinicians in training who get credit towards licensing by committing people. This is also why many men never get psychiatric help in the US, since psychiatric help is always a one-way ticket to never being able to buy a gun and do other things that normal men can do. You are a different kind of man once you get psychiatric help in the US, and real men know it or wish they had known it.

I wish more people were warned about the dangers of calling 988 for help. It is a life-destroying hotline. Choose life or choose death or choose waiting to see if you feel better or worse but never choose 988. And if you ever want to buy a gun, never see a psychiatrist or therapist, as they will put you in a database so the government is aware of whatever diagnosis they decided you have - and they always give a patient a diagnosis or else insurance doesn't cover what they do. If a person sees a psychiatrist and says "I'm so sad" if the doctor says "You aren't clinically depressed, but here's some Prozac" then insurance won't cover the visits. So you get a diagnosis and Prozac, they get paid by insurance, and you also get put in a government database.

Many of the people on here from the US would purchase guns and end their lives but since there are obstacles, they seek out equally lethal methods which are often more traumatic for others, like jumping off buildings or laying down on train tracks. Many people on here would gladly welcome a comfortable hotel room and a gun. There are also people on here who are very undecided and having a method that is easy to keep hidden so that they can ctb quickly is helpful. Many people were also afraid in the US of Biden and his anti-gun hysteria since he was actively trying to confiscate guns from as many people as possible.

legendary comment. screw biden. this is my year to end it once and for all

thank you for taking the time to share ur response and yes im fully aware

 

[needthebus]

I've been frequenting this forum for a while, and I've noticed one thing: people often confuse suicide with suicidal ideation. Let's be clear: most people here don't really want to die. They live in a fragile balance where the idea of suicide becomes a way to survive, to cope with daily pain. It's a valve of release, a thought that comforts, because there's always a "plan B" in the back of their mind.
Let's not fool ourselves: suicide itself isn't "difficult." It's final, raw, and immediate. Someone who truly wants to end their life doesn't spend months or years pondering methods or seeking comfort in forums. They act. Period. Those who hang themselves in 99% of cases don't even know where the carotid arteries or the brainstem are. This is why more lethal methods, like a firearm, are so devastating: they leave no margin for error, except for a tiny, insignificant minority. There is no "failure" with a gun; there are just inexperienced people, like in any other field. It's like riding a bicycle: there's no guarantee you won't fall, but if you're experienced, the risk is minimal. Yet, my schoolmate has broken all her bones and suffered a head trauma, and she still keeps falling.
A firearm, in particular, doesn't leave room for endless, inconclusive attempts. There's no room for second thoughts or partial failures. That's why it's hated by many users: it eliminates the possibility of procrastination, of seeking another way, of clinging to that "maybe tomorrow" that so many tell themselves. It's a method that ends the game.
So why so many "failed" attempts? Because suicidal ideation isn't a real desire to die, it's a cry for help, a survival strategy. It's living in a limbo between pain and hope, a way for many people to hold on to life, paradoxically through the thought of death.
This doesn't diminish the suffering of those who talk about it, but it highlights the intent of those who want to portray suicide as something complex or unachievable. The act itself isn't complicated; it's facing the pain, the emptiness, the loneliness. The truth is that, in many cases, the thought of suicide doesn't lead to the end, but becomes the engine to keep living one more day.

it's a common misconception that people who talk about suicide repeatedly or have failed attempts won't actually commit suicide, many of them do, after much thought

my last attempt, which one doctor said was the most serious attempt he had ever reviewed in his career (although i somewhat doubt that), was done with a ton of planning and going back and forth. I planned for 2-3 months before I did it and just fucked it up.

there are people who use "suicide" as a plan B for comfort, and those who hate life and wish they didn't have SI so they could do it, but there are plenty on here who are scared and thinking about it and will ultimately do it.

it's sad and unfortunate, but true, and primarily a consequence of how cruel society is and that the mental health industry has policies that actively discourage people from seeking help, since it will result in pain, humiliation, and degradation, and so people make a rational choice to avoid the mental health industry and it's unethical rules and actions

 

[alltoomuch2]

I've been frequenting this forum for a while, and I've noticed one thing: people often confuse suicide with suicidal ideation. Let's be clear: most people here don't really want to die. They live in a fragile balance where the idea of suicide becomes a way to survive, to cope with daily pain. It's a valve of release, a thought that comforts, because there's always a "plan B" in the back of their mind.
Let's not fool ourselves: suicide itself isn't "difficult." It's final, raw, and immediate. Someone who truly wants to end their life doesn't spend months or years pondering methods or seeking comfort in forums. They act. Period. Those who hang themselves in 99% of cases don't even know where the carotid arteries or the brainstem are. This is why more lethal methods, like a firearm, are so devastating: they leave no margin for error, except for a tiny, insignificant minority. There is no "failure" with a gun; there are just inexperienced people, like in any other field. It's like riding a bicycle: there's no guarantee you won't fall, but if you're experienced, the risk is minimal. Yet, my schoolmate has broken all her bones and suffered a head trauma, and she still keeps falling.
A firearm, in particular, doesn't leave room for endless, inconclusive attempts. There's no room for second thoughts or partial failures. That's why it's hated by many users: it eliminates the possibility of procrastination, of seeking another way, of clinging to that "maybe tomorrow" that so many tell themselves. It's a method that ends the game.
So why so many "failed" attempts? Because suicidal ideation isn't a real desire to die, it's a cry for help, a survival strategy. It's living in a limbo between pain and hope, a way for many people to hold on to life, paradoxically through the thought of death.
This doesn't diminish the suffering of those who talk about it, but it highlights the intent of those who want to portray suicide as something complex or unachievable. The act itself isn't complicated; it's facing the pain, the emptiness, the loneliness. The truth is that, in many cases, the thought of suicide doesn't lead to the end, but becomes the engine to keep living one more day.

I've been frequenting this forum for a while, and I've noticed one thing: people often confuse suicide with suicidal ideation. Let's be clear: most people here don't really want to die. They live in a fragile balance where the idea of suicide becomes a way to survive, to cope with daily pain. It's a valve of release, a thought that comforts, because there's always a "plan B" in the back of their mind.
Let's not fool ourselves: suicide itself isn't "difficult." It's final, raw, and immediate. Someone who truly wants to end their life doesn't spend months or years pondering methods or seeking comfort in forums. They act. Period. Those who hang themselves in 99% of cases don't even know where the carotid arteries or the brainstem are. This is why more lethal methods, like a firearm, are so devastating: they leave no margin for error, except for a tiny, insignificant minority. There is no "failure" with a gun; there are just inexperienced people, like in any other field. It's like riding a bicycle: there's no guarantee you won't fall, but if you're experienced, the risk is minimal. Yet, my schoolmate has broken all her bones and suffered a head trauma, and she still keeps falling.
A firearm, in particular, doesn't leave room for endless, inconclusive attempts. There's no room for second thoughts or partial failures. That's why it's hated by many users: it eliminates the possibility of procrastination, of seeking another way, of clinging to that "maybe tomorrow" that so many tell themselves. It's a method that ends the game.
So why so many "failed" attempts? Because suicidal ideation isn't a real desire to die, it's a cry for help, a survival strategy. It's living in a limbo between pain and hope, a way for many people to hold on to life, paradoxically through the thought of death.
This doesn't diminish the suffering of those who talk about it, but it highlights the intent of those who want to portray suicide as something complex or unachievable. The act itself isn't complicated; it's facing the pain, the emptiness, the loneliness. The truth is that, in many cases, the thought of suicide doesn't lead to the end, but becomes the engine to keep living one more day.

This makes me sad. Because I think, I believe I want to die. But because I'm scared, because I dont want to hurt people that know me and family even though they don't deserve my care, I'm still here. I think I've come really close a few times when I'm in crisis and I did attempt when I was younger. But maybe it's all bullshit to make myself feel calmer knowing there's an option, or just attention seeking or, as you say, a cry for help. And I think my mental health workers feel the same but don't completely rule it out. But it certainly feels real to me and the number of times I've cried my heart out, my heart absolutely breaking because I just want all the loneliness and pain and confusion of my mental health problems to end, but I'm not brave enough, and because my personality is split so I never know if I'm making good decisions. But tonight I was going to do the passive thing where you do something potentially dangerous or lethal and just let the dice roll. But maybe I'm afraid. An attention seeker. I just want all this to end. I can't see any way for it to end other than ctb. And yet I can't quite do it.

 

[ShatteredSerenity]

I'm prohibited from owning firearms because I was hospitalized for psychosis during a manic episode. I wasn't suicidal or homicidal, but I was out of my mind doing dangerous things.

I wouldn't attempt to get a gun on the black market because that would be a felony with up to 10 years in prison. My life would be so much worse in prison I'm not risking it. There are plenty of other methods to CTB.

 

[lawlietsph]

As I read this title, my first thought was "wow I bet he's american" sorry.
Guns are illegal in most parts of the world.
You would never ever ever ever be able to buy one.

 

[needthebus]

I'm prohibited from owning firearms because I was hospitalized for psychosis during a manic episode. I wasn't suicidal or homicidal, but I was out of my mind doing dangerous things.

I wouldn't attempt to get a gun on the black market because that would be a felony with up to 10 years in prison. My life would be so much worse in prison I'm not risking it. There are plenty of other methods to CTB.

This is exactly why. OP, your post really sounded condescending in a way. There are valid reasons. @ShatteredSerenity is one of the most serious posters on here by the way, sadly. I hope he changes his mind, he seems like a nice dude, but he seems really intent on things.

 

[L'absent]

This makes me sad. Because I think, I believe I want to die. But because I'm scared, because I dont want to hurt people that know me and family even though they don't deserve my care, I'm still here. I think I've come really close a few times when I'm in crisis and I did attempt when I was younger. But maybe it's all bullshit to make myself feel calmer knowing there's an option, or just attention seeking or, as you say, a cry for help. And I think my mental health workers feel the same but don't completely rule it out. But it certainly feels real to me and the number of times I've cried my heart out, my heart absolutely breaking because I just want all the loneliness and pain and confusion of my mental health problems to end, but I'm not brave enough, and because my personality is split so I never know if I'm making good decisions. But tonight I was going to do the passive thing where you do something potentially dangerous or lethal and just let the dice roll. But maybe I'm afraid. An attention seeker. I just want all this to end. I can't see any way for it to end other than ctb. And yet I can't quite do it.

Reading your words deeply moved me, as they reflect an intense suffering that cannot be ignored, a suffering that seems to consume you and make each day harder to face. It's clear that within you there is a continuous struggle, a conflict between the desire to escape the pain and the fear of its consequences, both for yourself and for the people around you. The loneliness you describe, along with the confusion and emotional pain, is a reality that many, though not always visible, share. However, I encourage you not to view the fact that you are holding back as a weakness or indecision. Perhaps that small glimmer of fear that holds you back, though incomplete, is the sign of a part of you that still desires something other than that end. I urge you to consider that your pain, though enormous, does not define your fate. The suffering you are experiencing, as oppressive as it may be, is not the only truth about your existence. The possibility of change, no matter how small, is a light worth seeking, in whatever form you decide to take that path. This road you are walking, though frightening, might only be a chapter of a life that, although difficult, still has potential. You are not alone, and while the world may seem vast and solitary, your voice and your pain do not go unnoticed. Perhaps now is the time to give space to that 'maybe' that, though fearful, hides between your lines, and consider that there might be another way to face the pain, if not today, perhaps tomorrow.

 

[Rust]

yeah... i guess it all comes down to how bad you want to die

Just my two cents, but I think it's more that some people are better able to disassociate their mind from their actions. This makes it easier to, in the case of a gun, pull the trigger without thought.

If anything, I think a good portion of people here are clear on their intent to die. But over rationalising things or being unable to disconnect makes it more difficult to die. I guess my point is that there are many other factors at play and not just a person's intent to die.

But to your point, I'd definitely consider a gun as a potential method if I had access to one.

 

[JesiBel]

In my country, a police permit and a psychological exam are required to be able to buy a firearm. You must also complete the practice sessions and all the regulatory paperwork.

You can obtain firearms illegally, but you run the risk of them not working properly or of being robbed of your money at the time of purchase lol

 

[outrider567]

Too many failed attempts by people with guns, they do it incorrectly or flinch at the last second--A teen cop killer put a gun under his chin, then became a near vegetable--A mob guy who was marked for death shot himself, became horribly injured instead--A young man shot himself, blew away his chin and lower teeth, looked like a freak afterward, eventually shot himself again, and succeeded

 

[itriedinthislife2]

Reading your words deeply moved me, as they reflect an intense suffering that cannot be ignored, a suffering that seems to consume you and make each day harder to face. It's clear that within you there is a continuous struggle, a conflict between the desire to escape the pain and the fear of its consequences, both for yourself and for the people around you. The loneliness you describe, along with the confusion and emotional pain, is a reality that many, though not always visible, share. However, I encourage you not to view the fact that you are holding back as a weakness or indecision. Perhaps that small glimmer of fear that holds you back, though incomplete, is the sign of a part of you that still desires something other than that end. I urge you to consider that your pain, though enormous, does not define your fate. The suffering you are experiencing, as oppressive as it may be, is not the only truth about your existence. The possibility of change, no matter how small, is a light worth seeking, in whatever form you decide to take that path. This road you are walking, though frightening, might only be a chapter of a life that, although difficult, still has potential. You are not alone, and while the world may seem vast and solitary, your voice and your pain do not go unnoticed. Perhaps now is the time to give space to that 'maybe' that, though fearful, hides between your lines, and consider that there might be another way to face the pain, if not today, perhaps tomorrow.

i love this. this.

I'm prohibited from owning firearms because I was hospitalized for psychosis during a manic episode. I wasn't suicidal or homicidal, but I was out of my mind doing dangerous things.

I wouldn't attempt to get a gun on the black market because that would be a felony with up to 10 years in prison. My life would be so much worse in prison I'm not risking it. There are plenty of other methods to CTB.

i 100% agree and may you find peace brother

In my country, a police permit and a psychological exam are required to be able to buy a firearm. You must also complete the practice sessions and all the regulatory paperwork.

You can obtain firearms illegally, but you run the risk of them not working properly or of being robbed of your money at the time of purchase lol

ahhh and fair enough because usually the people selling them illegally are the thug types so it would make sense but could be a route

what country are u in and i know theres thugs everywhere lol so yeah

Too many failed attempts by people with guns, they do it incorrectly or flinch at the last second--A teen cop killer put a gun under his chin, then became a near vegetable--A mob guy who was marked for death shot himself, became horribly injured instead--A young man shot himself, blew away his chin and lower teeth, looked like a freak afterward, eventually shot himself again, and succeeded

two words or a couple. to the side of the head, hollow point rounds and why would u do anything regarding the chin or under?

either in ur mouth aiming towards the brainstem or the classic to the side of the head. there you go. actually, theres not many failed attempts when done correctely. i would get fairly wasted but not too wasted to do it properly and boom

 

[CogitoMori]

i guess if 500 for a handgun to end it once and for all is expensive than sure. surely better than suffering if ur rlly serious about CTBing. nobody can answer that except u

The purpose of my death is to minimize damage, debt, and inconvenience to other people's lives. Mine will be well planned, not impulsive.

 

[itriedinthislife2]

The purpose of my death is to minimize damage, debt, and inconvenience to other people's lives. Mine will be well planned, not impulsive.

thats fair, i guess everyone wants to go out in different ways and i respect that

 

[Coal54321]

Guns are not legal here otherwise maybe I would consider it. But I find "gory" deaths really scary. I don't think I could ctb by gun or train etc even if I had easy access to both. I would rather take SN due to the ease of recovery if it goes wrong rather than mutilating my body and being fucked for life if either of the aforementioned methods go wrong.

 

[itriedinthislife2]

Guns are not legal here otherwise maybe I would consider it. But I find "gory" deaths really scary. I don't think I could ctb by gun or train etc even if I had easy access to both. I would rather take SN due to the ease of recovery if it goes wrong rather than mutilating my body and being fucked for life if either of the aforementioned methods go wrong.

train unlikely to go wrong and gun unlikely to go wrong to the head as for the afformations i cant argue upon that

 

[divinemistress36]

My stroke was in my brainstem shooting myself there would be very difficult as I have bad ptsd. I dont know how to use a gun and dont want to be around people to go learn and Im afraid I would be the 1 percent that would survive and dont need anymore brain damage and I dont want people to find my brains splattered everywhere. If only someone would shoot me in the head..

 

[HereTomorrow]

Never committed to a ward, but have a history of suicidial thoughts as a minor 10 years ago. Police require my mental health records before I can get a permit.

For me to get a gun legally, I need to have a psychologist sign off that I am not going to kill myself or others, my diagnosis of depression from 10 years ago isn't going to alter my rational thinking, and specifically state I am mentally capable of owning a gun and give that write-off to the police station. A police officer also has the right to decline me if they even sense I am a danger, even with no proof. It would bring so much attention to me IRL as I look like the last person to want a gun.

I could get one if I push through, I'm not banned, I'm not depressed anymore, and have no history of suicidial thoughts for 7 years. But it is too much of a risk. Also too much attention for me to suddenly move somewhere that has looser laws.

It's not a win for those who desire gun control in the name of saving the suicidal. The laws won't stop me from CTB, for I'm choosing hanging instead. Also less bloody. I'd like to cause minimal damage around me if/when I go.

 

[NearlyIrrelevantCake]

train unlikely to go wrong

It was an accident and not a CTB attempt, but my father was unconscious on some train tracks and a train went over him. He only had a broken thumb and collapsed lung and was out of the hospital in two days.