Discussion Why dont governments offer us hassle free options to die with dignity?

[Sigh_Sigh_Sigh]

It's as though governments globally want us to stick around and suffer while they take our access to sites like this away, why wont any government simply offer us a no cost option to end it all within a medical setting with low risk of complication from foolproof medicinal methods?

 

[Nolongerlive]

they risked losing votes/power to be the govt as this is a controversial topic . Even it is being legalised there will be strict rules to justify your request to euthanise yourself. I dont think most people here are qualify unless you have very serious illnesses or justified by physiatriats .

 

[rainatthebusstop]

And lose tax payers?

I mean... Oh no think of the poor afflicted people who could have made their friends and families happier by living longer. Don't you care about the fact that these people still had years of love and labor to give?
And you may say "Oh, but the Ill" Please, think of the ill. Think about how much money we can make by artificially extending their lives, how many jobs we can create on the backs of a whole group of medicine dependent people.
This country has a big religious crowd and I am not saying we need to pander to them but did you know our religion (which totally has no place in the state) forbids suicide? Seeing it like that we're heroes by letting these people rot and die slowly. In the name of our loving god of course. We're saving them from hell in that way.
Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Is it a problem we could fix as a society? No, poverty and work culture are individual problems don't you know? Just look at our thriving grey work force and the way everyone is increasingly burned out by age thirty.

(Sorry for being a bit sarcastic and incoherent but in the most cynical way it is like that)

 

[U. A.]

Euthanasia for all

The idea that voluntary euthanasia, free at the point of request, no questions asked would, upon implementation, *not* have a knock-on effect on the wider society in terms of public services, healthcare is imo very naive. It would not be delivered as an act of compassion towards the depressed...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[Matchaaa]

I believe everyone has the right to advocate for the legalization of euthanasia in society. It is only natural to hesitate to take action out of fear of the pain associated with death. Unfortunately, certain toxic notions still imply that those who are unable to end their own lives due to fear of pain. This is just as ridiculous as claiming that "people who undergo surgery under anesthesia are cowards," because this is not a matter of courage; rather, it should be viewed from a humanitarian perspective. I believe society has an obligation to provide this right to self-determination.

I've noticed that even though some people use the "slippery slope" argument to oppose the legalization of euthanasia, banning it doesn't solve all the problems. Moreover, this "slippery slope" has already been quietly unfolding for a long time. Many people face immense suffering while they're alive and are forced to choose painful ways to end their own lives. I do not believe euthanasia is a one-size-fits-all solution for every situation, but legalizing it is a necessary first step toward compassionate harm reduction.
No society can ensure that everyone is free from structural hardships; this is an inherent limitation of society itself. If one insists on resolving structural hardships before legalizing euthanasia, that day will never come, because many people are already suffering terribly. Therefore, I believe government and society should continue to address and improve societal issues while moving toward the legalization of euthanasia.

 

[BrokenByTheSystem]

Because we are necessary to keep the system running and working.

An individual is used in many different ways: You contribute to society with your labor, you buy things so others can profit and live, you watch tv or use the internet, you give views to things, you see ads. All of this and much more, that's why you're needed and they don't allow you to go easily, because you help others to profit...

 

[FuneralCry]

Because they just want people to suffer for as much and as long as possible in this existence so torturous, dreadful and cruel, it's just horrific how they want people to feel the pain of existing and be tortured by this existence for as much as possible.

It's truly criminal how painless ways to cease existing are made inaccessible with the suffering and torture of existing seen as to force and prolong no matter what, there's just so much evil in anti-suicide, all that anti-suicide people do is just cause way more harm and torture in this existence that just leads to decay and death anyway with no limit as to how much one can be tortured. To suffer in this existence is the most terrible undeserved punishment to me, it'll always be torture to suffer in this anti-suicide prison world where humans force others to suffer, this existence just never should has been imposed, I'll always see it as a mistake to suffer in this existence.

 

[itsgone2]

Most politicians are scum, but they don't know what we're going through.
Our SI keeps us living
How high is SI for someone happy to be alive?
They can't begin to understand our pain
Plus too many survivors who say they're glad they didn't ctb.
maybe one day but for now we face mostly brutal methods.

 

[inkmage333]

Something, something, people living and suffering is profitable so they try to keep us alive instead of letting us go in peace

 

[thehorizons]

Have a feeling the laws will only change when one of their loved ones or themselves suffer from something they can't get out of.

 

[Forveleth]

Most of the western world is ruled by Judeo-Christian beliefs that say suicide is wrong so law makers have to pretend like they give a shit about those values.

 

[Aflame5926]

isnt it more about they need the human resources no matter what?
but here is another thing that is happening now. everything is getting expensiver and waiting queues are to long.
so how are they gonna deal with the high cost lots of patients everywhere.

at some point im pretty sure they adding water to the wine. by either offering euthansia or ignore plea's for help.
last one would be devasting for the ones that can actually be helped by them

 

[DeadManLiving]

I don't know. There already is an abundant supply of human capital. The ruling class would prefer the population be kept as "lean" and controllable as possible, in their ideal world.

The Government moves at a snails pace, and avoids any controversial initiatives. So special interest groups are important to study on what develops soon.

 

[neverexistedd]

because they need their peons to work and pay taxes

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

it's much worse

they purposefully went to a lot of trouble to pass LAWS to make every guaranteed suicide method and technology a crime when these weren't crimes before. paying someone to assist you with suicide, Nembutal, sarco suicide pod , opiods , morphine , fentanyl many more

It's Totally irrational and unfathomably evil to force someone to suffer extreme torture for years when Nembutal and other guaranteed exits out of this hell exist. But that's what this evil world is

they also arrested D who sold Nembutal online for many years. his email was in the pph and many people here bought Nembutal from 2018 to 2022 from D until the government arrested D in 2022

this is what they stole from everyone a painless way to exit this hell .

Nembutal:

https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/suicide/post/23496/michle-causse-assisted-suicide-scene-from

i don't want to suffer 30 years in a nursing home with sores and dementia which is another reason for me to suicide .

example 1: paying someone to assist you with suicide. this is guaranteed. if i'm in unbearable pain i can't pay someone to shoot me with a gun. i can't even beg a family member or friend to shoot me to put me out of my unbearable constant pain. why ? because they made it a crime to assist anyone with suicide.
what's the point of suffering every second for years constant unbearable pain when you could pay someone a few hundred dollars to painlessly put me out of my misery? it's painless 1 shot to the head and out unconscoius and me dead. even if they screw up the first shot they can take 20 shots and that will be guaranted. they say i can't do that and that it's a crime .so no one will do it. so i have to suffer extremely extreme torture or shoot myself but that's riskier because i only get one shot if i shoot my head i could be brain damaged but still alive.

it's guaranteed because it's very easy for a human to kill another to put them out of their unbearable pain.. and the assister can check to see if dead and continue. with guns this is trivial painless and guaranteed. but it. always been the case even 1 million years ago when the first stone axes spears cutters etc were invented. of course these could be painful but what if you are suffering unbearable pain and then would be for weeks months or years? yes then i would trade a few minutes of exruciating pain for days ,weeks , months or years of it .

more examples Nembutal , sarco suicide capsule , cyanide capsules many more . they even put fences around jumping spots and are trying to restrict SN

people are taught there is some inherent morality that assisting suicide is a crime or evil . it's not it's made up lies. same for the "morality" that suicide and Death are bad evil. and the lie that anyone wanting suicide is mentally ill. many more lies.

to me the only things that matter is me avoiding unbearable and and my suicide asap. and then me avoiding any pain. of course i'm i don't have the desire to violate any of their laws nor intention because that would cauase me more suffering as incarceration and i don't care about anything except what i mentioned me avoiding unbearable pain. no one can convince me anything else matters. plus i'm just a bag of cells what could matter? but i can suffer immensely so that matters to me not suffering extremely

 

[NeverHis]

Well, if you want to get a bit woo woo....

Dead people don't produce Loosh.

 

[cluefixphantom]

I often think they dgaf. And we as a group have no (rich) right's advocate organization/no lobby. But they have medical industry/pharmacy, therapism/psychiatry and jail/justice system. Many people see no problem with abusing vulnerable humans.

They don't really see us as humans imo, or a threat. So they let us starve alone or we are murdered in our room, psychiatric hospital or on the streets. Nobody cares.

Since childhood, I've been excluded by many and have been a victim of bullying and hate crime/discrimination throughout my life.

Many see me as ugly, so I was simply strictly isolated, pathologized, and somehow even criminalized. I haven't been put in prison yet, but I was forcibly admitted to psychiatric hospitals–not even for anything truly criminal.

It was only because, for example, I couldn't go to school anymore due to the bullying so they put me into the psychiatric hospital, or because my mother didn't want to take care of me anymore, even though I have disabilities and can't make my own money, and I'm poor thanks to my parents. I asked my mother for help and she know that I am attacked by others for my face and hair but she dgaf. And because I'm poor and disabled, I was simply locked up for supposed danger to myself or others (my mother).

In other words, my very person was pathologized and criminalized just because these people have no empathy and for some that's their business. They prefer to harm, abuse, the vulnerable people and make money from this.

because they need their peons to work and pay taxes

I assume this is the reason why we have in Germany Grundsicherung (Hartz5/Bürgergeld and Erwerbsunfähigkeitsrente). I'm on this government aid (Hartz5) in Germany and so I have 560 or 563 euro for a month for my basic needs. I buy mostly stuff from Amazon so they make money from me and the landlord of my room gets paid.

But therapists, pharmaceutical companies, and hospitals have also profited from me. In Germany, this is covered through mandatory health insurance that comes with Hartz5 benefits. I've never really received genuine medical help in my life, but I was quickly labeled as mentally ill and put in front of therapists and into psychiatric hospital. The workers at the Jobcenter and mail carriers earn money from me too.

I also realized that neighbors and strangers have filmed me and I assume they make money from it online. In a way, I'm treated like a 'lolcow' because I have disabilities and don't look like what's considered normal or pretty.

Others who already have a lot of money definitely make more money from poorer and very vulnerable people. But I didn't gain any quality of life from it. Since end 2024/jan 2025 I'm in my room to rot. Before that, I could at least go for walks in the forest, but that has become too dangerous and lonely now.