Why don't Americans simply shoot themselves?

[Pan]

Hanging is really the most reliable and safe method. You can practice all the steps beforehand and if you execute them correctly, there is a hundred percent certainty you will die. I am talking about full suspension, non drop hanging.
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I just cannot imagine myself doing it. It's still brutal and repulsive to me, as opposed to an OD or gas method.

I completely agree with you. I would like to do it in my basement, and attach noose to ceiling water pipe. I have seen videos of full suspension; there appears to be little discomfort; thrashing was minimal. My concern is that I will survive with permanent neck wounds that will never vanish. Do noose marks fade over time, or are they permanent?

Hi I am American and what you are saying is easier said than done. I am a female and I would need to go purchase a gun which the store can either approve or deny my purchase for any little reason. Second even if I had a gun I would be to scared to do that, I don't even know how to use a gun. It is true what they say, females go for more lighter suicides like poisoning.

I like the idea of poison, but potassium cyanide is virtually impossible to get. It kills within two seconds. Its' taste is unknown; no one has lived to describe it. Done.

 

[paula1326]

well after reading all this good talk, i've had to do some more research on using my 9mm. studied the part of the brain that needs to be hit and then used my gun to practice positioning.

 

[mediocre]

If you listen to the media in Europe they'd have you believe that in America you can just walk into a gun shop pick up a firearm immediately no questions asked then stock up on your ammunition at your local Walmart.

 

[MartyByrde]

So I noticed that maybe most members of this forum are Americans. And I was wondering - why don't you just plan suicide by shooting yourselves? There are all these elaborate techniques with SN and whatnot, while you can literally just buy guy everywhere and do it super quick, secure and relatively painless. If I were an American I'd choose that in a heartbeat - unfortunately, being from Eur Union putting hands on a gun is really an impossibility and I have to keep exploring other options. But boy would that be wonderful!

It also gets me thinking - if you're American and claim to want to committ suicide but to do that ponder these complicated failure high-risk options while you have the ideal one just there - maybe you don't really want to die?

This is a patronizing bullshit question. I have one in return:

How did you end up such a callous fool?

 

[Y78]

question to us citizens :
if i live in nyc and take flight to texas i can have a gun ?
(i mean that you dont actualy live in texas and still able to act like the local law there)

 

[Roger]

If you listen to the media in Europe they'd have you believe that in America you can just walk into a gun shop pick up a firearm immediately no questions asked then stock up on your ammunition at your local Walmart.

If you listen to the media in the US, they'd have you believe that in Europe it is completely impossible to legally acquire a gun.

 

[Partial-Elf]

If you listen to the media in Europe they'd have you believe that in America you can just walk into a gun shop pick up a firearm immediately no questions asked then stock up on your ammunition at your local Walmart.

This isn't really inaccurate. In my pro gun state, I was able to order a gun and ammo off the internet and pick it up somewhere about ten minutes from my house. It was very inexpensive. There was a questionnaire that I had to fill out but it was easy, and I believe they run a background check which was no problem for me. I also believe that ammo can be bought at Walmart around here.

 

[Quinlor]

All true about guns and death but I believe this thread it's a bit aggressive for me, calm down folks!

 

[chumley123]

Getting a guns isn't as easy here as a lot of people think you still need to go through a mountain of paper work a waiting period (some states are worse than others) but it's not as easy as just walking into a store and buying one

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Getting a guns isn't as easy here as a lot of people think you still need to go through a mountain of paper work a waiting period (some states are worse than others) but it's not as easy as just walking into a store and buying one

You can always buy them privately in the US then there are no background checks.

 

[Klee]

Just the mess would put me off. Crime scene cleaning is expensive, and gross.

 

[Zxcv]

That's like me asking if you're from EU why don't you just jump? Lots of tall buildings in EU, high success rate method and easy.

 

[ceelo]

So I noticed that maybe most members of this forum are Americans. And I was wondering - why don't you just plan suicide by shooting yourselves? There are all these elaborate techniques with SN and whatnot, while you can literally just buy guy everywhere and do it super quick, secure and relatively painless. If I were an American I'd choose that in a heartbeat - unfortunately, being from Eur Union putting hands on a gun is really an impossibility and I have to keep exploring other options. But boy would that be wonderful!

It also gets me thinking - if you're American and claim to want to committ suicide but to do that ponder these complicated failure high-risk options while you have the ideal one just there - maybe you don't really want to die?

In thomas joiners book why people die of suicide he finds that method chosen usually has a kind of romanticism or significance to the individual so its not just chose the easiest like those who just want escape suffering.

 

[cowbain]

I don't have anything to add other than the title made me laugh (thank you) and resonates similar energy as this:

 

[nigelhernandez]

That's like me asking if you're from EU why don't you just jump? Lots of tall buildings in EU, high success rate method and easy.

Lol what are you talking about? AFAIK, Europe has laws on buildings been a certain height. The US/Canada has many of the tallest buildings in the world and on average, the buildings are MUCH taller than in Western Europe.

 

[xkidx]

i think the "ideal" method will be different from person to person, what could be considered a negative about a method could be experienced as a postive for someone else

 

[Darksektori]

Because many of them would probably miss

 

[Jessica5]

A) It's not that easy to acquire a fire arm in the USA LEGALLY. As has been mentioned why.
B) CTB with a gun is not 100% guaranteed.
C) Have you looked at any case of what a person goes through after failing this method? Try for the head and it didn't work is not a pleasant thought or sight.

EDIT D) You also need to know how to handle a gun before you try the method. Not everyone is familiar with handling a gun. So you need to learn that also.

I don't mean to sound harsh.. just those are my thoughts on the topic

I've never found any real solid information on what % of the time suicide attempts via shotgun to the head fails. The only info I've found is some survey on lostallhope from 1985ish where people estimated what % of the time various suicide methods work. The people estimated that shotgun to the head works 99% of the time, but these were just normal lay people who were making estimates. It wasn't even a survey of hospital doctors or people who might be a little more knowledgable of this than the average person.

Plus, 1985 was the pre internet days, before you could see pictures from all across the world of people who failed in shotgun suicides. I bet people would think that shotgun to the suicide attempts fail more often than 1% of the time now, just because of all the pictures and stories on the internet.

 

[reichan66]

Getting the gun isn't the problem, although it can be a hassle. It's doing it right painlessly. There's so many things that can go wrong that can leave you worse off than before, just like any other method. Depending on caliber, angle has to be just right, can be horribly painful, etc etc. Shotguns help, but are actually illegal in states I've researched. Dying painlessly and quickly from guns isn't as easy as people make it out to be I feel like

 

[shipwreck]

Because we're too busy shooting each other