Method Why don´t European members get a hunters license and buy a shotgun or bolt action rifle?

[TheGoodGuy]

I mean if you don´t have any records of mental problems you actually can even in the UK but I keep seeing that guns aren´t available in Europe which isn´t true, hunters guns are available in almost every country if you don´t have a specific mental illness.

I am just curious because I think a lot more members are oblivious to what you can actual get although it takes some time to get through the courses of a hunters license.

 

[Soul]

I'm scared of guns and tend not to like people who are comfortable with them. That's a form of bigotry, I know, but it makes it hard to do hunting courses etc.

 

[mediocre]

Here where I live you have to go through the police and you're only given a license for a specific purpose. They keep tabs on you as well. So it's not worth all that hassle.

 

[blalost]

To be allowed to buy a gun you need to have special safes for gun and ammo separately, you need to pass an exam for hunters, an exam for using guns, hunting insurance, and a hunting permit and written permission from a landowner where you are allowed to hunt. It's pretty complicated to get a gun and also I don't think they are a guaranteed peaceful death. People who think so probably watched too many Hollywood movies.

 

[Winter_Flower]

And it's not just about mental illnesses here in the UK. Like the above said you need approved separate storage for both guns and ammo. These aren't cheap, these then have to be checked by police in order to get a license, with continuous checks to renew license. Once you apply to the police you then need a medical check. If approved a number of different courses are required for the area you want the gun for and you are only licensed for that specific area, say hunting. It's even illegal to have an air rifle over a certain pound of pressure. By the time you've gone through the process, spent thousands etc you might as well jump off a cliff, much easier and cheaper x

 

[LittleJem]

I've thought about learning to shoot but didn't know all the regs

 

[befree]

There are two countries in Europe where almost everyone with main residence (citizen or EU/EWR country) can own a gun, not only a hunters gun. Those countries are Switzerland and Austria.

 

[MicropBaldCurrycel]

well im not from europe but i can obtain a gun easy here but thing is 1: no money as i am and always been dependant on my father and im usless and 2: im useless so probably cant even use a gun.

 

[lostmyacc]

Guns will not pack much of a punch so to say usually. You'd be easier doing drug overdose rather than jumping through hoops anyway.

Plus also lot of people have medical history of failed attempts or depression on record it's going to be impossible to obtain a firearm with any blemish on their record.

 

[Lebensunwertes]

Guns will not pack much of a punch so to say usually. You'd be easier doing drug overdose rather than jumping through hoops anyway.

A well placed bullet to the head will be infinitely more effective than ingesting even 1 kg of sodium nitrite.

 

[lostmyacc]

A well placed bullet to the head will be infinitely more effective than ingesting even 1 kg of sodium nitrite.

Most probable round in some EU countries is .22 round though. I don't see firearms as a realistic method overall. Even in USA there is still to many issues for me. I would always prefer Nembutal over firearms.

 

[Musketeer]

I have a Europeon wife (Italian specifically) and it is very difficult to get firearms over in Europe and police do keep tabs on other people, while getting a hunting license and sporting license is easy for someone with severe depression to get one, go through the background checks to get one. It's just not worth it. Also shooting yourself isn't as successful of a method as you think it is. I am combat trained, you will probably end up flinching as you try to pull the trigger this can cause you to miss and hit somewhere else or miss entirely. The brain has plenty of redundancies to keep you alive, and the skull is just hard enough to sometimes deal with bullets it is quite fascinating honestly.

A well placed bullet to the head will be infinitely more effective than ingesting even 1 kg of sodium nitrite.

just read my message here

 

[Alex6216]

I mean if you don´t have any records of mental problems you actually can even in the UK but I keep seeing that guns aren´t available in Europe which isn´t true, hunters guns are available in almost every country if you don´t have a specific mental illness.

I am just curious because I think a lot more members are oblivious to what you can actual get although it takes some time to get through the courses of a hunters license.

Like the others here said, you need to be a farmer or be part of a hunting group to even consider getting a gun. For all intents and purposes a gun is illegal in most of Europe for the average SS user

 

[Lebensunwertes]

I have a Europeon wife (Italian specifically) and it is very difficult to get firearms over in Europe and police do keep tabs on other people, while getting a hunting license and sporting license is easy for someone with severe depression to get one, go through the background checks to get one. It's just not worth it. Also shooting yourself isn't as successful of a method as you think it is. I am combat trained, you will probably end up flinching as you try to pull the trigger this can cause you to miss and hit somewhere else or miss entirely. The brain has plenty of redundancies to keep you alive, and the skull is just hard enough to sometimes deal with bullets it is quite fascinating honestly.

There's a wide variety of calibers you can buy with a hunting license, especially shotguns mean for hunting the big game. Skull isn't universally thick all around which is why shots towards temples or roof of the mouth tend to be most effective. Sure there are cases of botched suicide attempts with the use of firearms, but they are much more rare than poisoning attempts. I assume combined method of both poisoning and gun suicide would be the most effective, just like people did during WW2.

 

[Musketeer]

There's a wide variety of calibers you can buy with a hunting license, especially shotguns mean for hunting the big game. Skull isn't universally thick all around which is why shots towards temples or roof of the mouth tend to be most effective. Sure there are cases of botched suicide attempts with the use of firearms, but they are much more rare than poisoning attempts. I assume combined method of both poisoning and gun suicide would be the most effective, just like people did during WW2.

the awkwardness of the placement of the shotgun, plus the fact you might flinch and end up missing completely might be enough of a deterrent for Europeans, plus it's much more of a hassle to get in Europe than it is in most states (i believe 26 states now have constitutional carry)

 

[Danjor88]

LoL what precisely do you think someone would go "hunting" in the UK?

Cows?
Sheep?
Rabbits?

Honestly, you have no idea.

Jump through hoops, buy a gun safe, pay a fortune - who can afford to do that?

Well actually my Brother in Law can, he has 2 shotguns and goes shooting pheasants in his plus fours (he looks ridiculous, he's about 300 pounds), and to go shooting pheasants costs a thousand pounds for the weekend, and that's without any of his "kills" being prepared, dressed, and hung for however long.

Of course you don't have to that bit, but you do need the to buy the guns, have a place to store them, etc, etc, etc - who has £5000+ to spend on that, if you get approved in the first place.

 

[Mocon33]

If you put a 12 gauge shotgun in your mouth and pull the trigger (and obviously don't point it straight up) you are out of here, no ifs ands or buts. Are shotguns impossible to obtain in Europe? No idea, but I wouldn't think cost would be an issue, you don't have any use for money after you're dead.