Help Why do they

[SolomonKado]

Why is it people say "I wish you wouldn't", "there's help out there", etc when someone is going to or says they are going to CTB? I've always wondered this.

Does that mean this person is going to come and help me find the help that I haven't found in the many years I've already tried? Does it mean they are going to come here and make sure I don't do it and stay with me every minute of the day for the rest of my miserable existence to make sure nothing bad comes my way ever again?

I'm sorry if this seems critical of anyone. That is not my purpose. Maybe I feel something should be a certain way that doesn't even exist. I just wish there was someone who could fix everything for good to help me continue existing, but all I see is words.

Wishing others peace on their trip is fine because you know this is something they chose for themselves and you're not going to talk them out of it. Talking them out of it could lead to the biggest pain and trauma they've ever felt and that person who talked them out of it wouldn't be there to take Responsibility for it, but people want to be the person to talk you out of it. Like they get to be the hero without the responsibility.

Again this is in no way talking badly about anyone. Just my thoughts and feelings on the matter from my own perceptions. Doesn't mean it's everyone's.

 

[Lulzacruel]

depends on their motive as words alone do not tell what the actions might be

some will help legit while some are saying it just to look supportive

try and be with people who are actually supportive

 

[aubrey!]

because they view us as lesser.
they either want you around for their own sake or they make the assumption that we're sack of shits who haven't made any attempt to get better when that couldn't possibly be less true for most of us.
i have given up precisely because i tried so hard. it's tiring and i've only managed to make it worse in the years.
they assume we just sit around all day and complain. like, cool, thanks.
i can't stand people who respond in such a manner.

 

[cookies]

In my experience, people say these things, but then they are nowhere to be found when you need support.

Idk why this happens, but it makes me feel worse and even more lonely when I reach out and don't get a reply.

 

[RedLightMoments]

Because they don't understand. From their perspective they have goals and dreams that they want badly. They assume because they want happiness that everyone must want it. They cant comprehend that someone doesn't want to be happy or sad they want nothingness. This is nothing against them just as we can't understand their point of view they can't understand us.

 

[SolomonKado]

In my experience, people say these things, but then they are nowhere to be found when you need support.

Idk why this happens, but it makes me feel worse and even more lonely when I reach out and don't get a reply.

OMG! I know the feeling all too well. I get someone who said I could PM them and then they wouldn't reply or the would answer my initial message saying hi and then disappear.

I understand people get busy, but for months at a time with nothing at any time?!

And people wonder why others want to CTB…it's because of the ones on this planet that just make it worse for those of us who chose to leave them all behind.

 

[FuneralCry]

Because those people are so incredibly delusional and don't wish to accept that suicide is a perfectly valid and logical solution, the view that existence isn't worth enduring scares them. It repluses me when people say "I wish you wouldn't ctb" as death means peace and relief from suffering, it's replusive being against the choice to find relief, instead only supporting the prolonging of harm in this unnecessary existence where we are just waiting around to die anyway.

If those people want to continue existing then that's their decision but it will always disgust me how they cannot accept that not everyone even wants to.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Because they don't understand. From their perspective they have goals and dreams that they want badly. They assume because they want happiness that everyone must want it. They cant comprehend that someone doesn't want to be happy or sad they want nothingness. This is nothing against them just as we can't understand their point of view they can't understand us.

Yeah but I guess they don't realize all their goals and dreams will die when they die . nothing of their memories, "achievements" , possessions, nothing of their lives will remain after Death. Everything will be forgotten forever as if they never existed. Travel 200 years into the future to the year 2323 : they will be long gone forgotten as if they never existed so will everyone. go even further 1000 years into the future . 100,000 years a blink in the galactic time scale. Do they even realize the universe is expanding also into nothingness ? travel a trillion years into the future what do you see the law of Entropy reigns supreme the universe expanding into nothingness.

The universe has always expanded the expansion is accelerating.

Future of an expanding universe - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[RedLightMoments]

Yeah but I guess they don't realize all their goals and dreams will die when they die . nothing of their memories, "achievements" , possessions, nothing of their lives will remain after Death. Everything will be forgotten forever as if they never existed. Travel 200 years into the future to the year 2323 : they will be long gone forgotten as if they never existed so will everyone. go even further 1000 years into the future . 100,000 years a blink in the galactic time scale. Do they even realize the universe is expanding also into nothingness ? travel a trillion years into the future what do you see the law of Entropy reigns supreme the universe expanding into nothingness.

The universe has always expanded the expansion is accelerating.

https://www.accessscience.com/content/article/a800550

This Is What the End of the Universe Will Look Like, According to a Cosmologist

Roughly 1 trillion years from now, the last star will be born. In about 100 trillion years, the last light will go out.

www.popularmechanics.com

I think everyone realizes it dies with them I just think for them its about the journey than destination. If you don't care for the journey there is truly nothing to value because the destination is the same for everyone. I have nothing against people who want to live I wish I could be like them I just can't.

 

[SolomonKado]

Yeah but I guess they don't realize all their goals and dreams will die when they die . nothing of their memories, "achievements" , possessions, nothing of their lives will remain after Death. Everything will be forgotten forever as if they never existed. Travel 200 years into the future to the year 2323 : they will be long gone forgotten as if they never existed so will everyone. go even further 1000 years into the future . 100,000 years a blink in the galactic time scale. Do they even realize the universe is expanding also into nothingness ? travel a trillion years into the future what do you see the law of Entropy reigns supreme the universe expanding into nothingness.

The universe has always expanded the expansion is accelerating.

https://www.accessscience.com/content/article/a800550

This Is What the End of the Universe Will Look Like, According to a Cosmologist

Roughly 1 trillion years from now, the last star will be born. In about 100 trillion years, the last light will go out.

www.popularmechanics.com

Thing is people are too selfish to think that far ahead. A point like that flies over their head because most people are in the right here and right now.

People have become self satisfying. They want it right here and right now. They don't want to have to wait or work for it.

People are also heavy consumers. They want all the things. Which is why there are so many stores to help people get all those things. Tricking them into sales or how the internet tries to force web pages of products onto you. It's all about forcing the consumer into buying their stuff.

A lot of goals include buying that new car or favorite fancy coffee machine. Thinking that far ahead has no meaning for them. I look at that and my head hurts because it's already swirling with the pain and trauma that I'm already dealing with.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Thing is people are too selfish to think that far ahead. A point like that flies over their head because most people are in the right here and right now.

People have become self satisfying. They want it right here and right now. They don't want to have to wait or work for it.

People are also heavy consumers. They want all the things. Which is why there are so many stores to help people get all those things. Tricking them into sales or how the internet tries to force web pages of products onto you. It's all about forcing the consumer into buying their stuff.

A lot of goals include buying that new car or favorite fancy coffee machine. Thinking that far ahead has no meaning for them. I look at that and my head hurts because it's already swirling with the pain and trauma that I'm already dealing with.

I edited the post . and deleted the links . not sure which ones you are talking about . you can edit your post and delete the links also . I don't care about anything just killing myself . there is no point even posting here just force of habit. I already have enough info to ctb for me.