Why do people who claim to be happy post on a suicide board?

[Ligottian]

Pro-lifers trying to "convert" us?

 

[painfully]

I havent seen that. The closes I have seen is people that say that they have everything and should be happy but still want to die... And tbh Im jealous of people who have what I need...

 

[thelastmessiah]

Reminds me of this Cioran quote..
"Only optimists commit suicide, optimists who no longer succeed at being optimists. The others, having no reason to live, why would they have any to die?"

 

[quietwoods]

Happiness is a temporary emotion. Depressed and or suicidal people can experience any emotion. I don't see a problem with this. You don't need to be miserable every single second of your waking hours to want to CTB.

 

[rainwillneverstop]

People can have all sorts of circumstances, stories, background and reasons to want to go.

 

[just a bird]

I can be happy. I think I'm happy right now, actually (concert o'clock). It just doesn't last the same way my depression does.

 

[quietwhisper]

There are some days where I do wake up in a good mood... so I can see it. I don't think a majority of people want to end their lives... but just want the pain to end. Some days I wake up and I can't even get out of bed. These rollercoasters of emotions really suck.

 

[landmine]

just because someone is happy doesnt mean they really are. happiness is just a temporary emotion that comes n goes.

i feel happy at times but still feel the depression and suicidal ideation within me somewhere

 

[day]

in my case this site helped me when i was in a really really dark period of life. i feel happy now but when i signed up i was in pure despair. i just want to continue to give back to the community that helped me so much in those times. though i will say im much less active than i previously was.

 

[Ligottian]

I meant no offense to anyone.

 

[sinfonia]

Always this obsession with 'pro-lifers'... I can almost understand why someone might see us as a cult. Designating all non-members, non-iniatiates as intruders, as potentially subversive or harmful, is one of the most distinct feafures of a cult.

 

[Namelesa]

Suicidal people aren't always feeling negative emotions. I myself can be happy sometimes but still am suicidal. I have wide mood swings so I can feel really happy sometimes but other times feel like shit. Like yesterday and the day before I was feeling content and happy, and now I feel anxious and fatigued and depressed.

 

[alwaysalone]

I meant no offense to anyone.

No offense taken. I have good days still. Not often they are few and far between. But some days where things seem to go my way in the small things (green lights hit fries etc...) and that can make me happy. However like others have said it doesn't last and I'm back in the pit.

 

[whitetaildeer]

I havent seen that. The closes I have seen is people that say that they have everything and should be happy but still want to die... And tbh Im jealous of people who have what I need...

This is my circumstance right now. Reasonably, I shouldn't be suicidal because I have (mostly) everything I want, and my life seems to be doing nothing but getting better. But I still want to die; whether for unfixable trauma-related reasons that would be too invasive to share, or simply because being suicidal is so deeply embedded into who I am.

Always this obsession with 'pro-lifers'... I can almost understand why someone might see us as a cult. Designating all non-members, non-iniatiates as intruders, as potentially subversive or harmful, is one of the most distinct feafures of a cult.

Agree on all minus the cult part, but I definitely think people on here are weirdly antagonistic of people who they think have it better than they do. I don't know who needs to hear this, but you're not a "pro-lifer" if you don't subscribe to the antinatalist/"all life bad" views that are commonplace here.

 

[TAW122]

Pretty much what others have said on here is spot on. I have my fleeting moments of pleasure and happiness during my existence, but that doesn't outweigh the existential dread and potential for future suffering as I continue to endure sentience in this world. I still very well intend to check out in the future, but only after the timing and circumstance is right for me.

 

[betternever2havbeen]

Agree on all minus the cult part, but I definitely think people on here are weirdly antagonistic of people who they think have it better than they do. I don't know who needs to hear this, but you're not a "pro-lifer" if you don't subscribe to the antinatalist/"all life bad" views that are commonplace here.

I think the issue is (for me anyway) it makes us feel even more like freaks when people are telling you (here of all places) "most people are happy, you're the crazy ones" not in so many words but yeah. Just makes me feel worse-it's not that I'm mad people are happy it's the way they go about telling us we're wrong. And we already get enough of that in the outside world from everyone. It's like we're STILL not being heard or understood. There should be a place here for antinatalists.

 

[FoxSauce]

Depends where I am. I can be ok but stull have my episodes. I guess is a matter of how people deal with things and circumstances. Theres no one size fits all scenario.

 

[L9 CHOCOIRL]

Pro-lifers trying to "convert" us?

because youre allowed to smile when youre depressed sometimes

 

[Pluto]

 

[hankly]

I've just seen a lot of examples of people trying to help people with their problems by suggesting some routes through them.

Also seen examples of people seeming like their not fully in on catching the bus and people rightly let them know that any ambiguity to it means it's not right.

Also seen when people are completely committed the community offers support and understanding and hopes for peace.

Also seen some predatory and love bomby things going on.

There will doubtless be people on here who see it as their mission to talk someone off the bridge probably due to their own experiences.

Every community is made up of a diverse group of individuals and it's up to you as an individual to discern what people are about.

Kinda wish I was active here during my worst period because I think it would have helped to have people to talk to, otherwise you can end up like where I am that it feels more like a pragmatic and practical solution than one driven by being in the middle of a crisis.

 

[cemeteryismyhome]

I'm gradually becoming more and more convinced that we don't exist merely as categories, identities, and labels. We're vague, self-contradictory, constantly changing, undefinable entities. I'm starting to be very cynical about descriptions, even such as "happy", "pro-life", "us". Inside my own head, I think I'm a full committee of happy, sad, pro-life, pro-choice, us, them, nobody, everyone. So yes, a "happy person" can ctb in 5 minutes. I can tell myself I should never have existed, and turn around and say I wish that idea on no one else. Things don't have to make sense.

 

[Worndown]

We humans experience a variety of emotions every day.
If someone is in a better place at that moment, happy will ooze out of them.
We should all be happy for them. For that moment we all win.
When clouds form, we are back in the mud.

 

[dontwakemeup]

You can be happy and still suicidal. One can plan a vacation and be happy and enjoy it, have a loving family, highest paid job, etc, and still want to ctb. People go where they feel comfortable at. They go where they are understood. And most importantly, where they are truly happy at.

 

[NonEssential]

I wonder what you consider "pro-lifer" in this context and exactly what kind of post/reply had you make this thread.
Fortunately my depression hasn't made it impossible for me to feel positive emotions like happiness.

 

[Paizen]

Always this obsession with 'pro-lifers'... I can almost understand why someone might see us as a cult. Designating all non-members, non-iniatiates as intruders, as potentially subversive or harmful, is one of the most distinct feafures of a cult.

Can I ask why you are pro-life? I personally feel like life is very beautiful and spiritual but at the same time on the opposite side of the spectrum there is an equally horrible world. I just want to know why people should be forced to live if they want to die?

I honestly believe that the will to live should come from within, in that, forcing suicidal people to live can never be the answer. The answer is and always has been teaching them that life is worth living, not by force, but by giving them a reason to stay.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

If suicide makes you happy, you die as a happy person. The prospect of a happy end makes you a happy person during your life.

 

[JesiBel]

Happiness is a fleeting moment, life is chaotic and will always stab you in the back when you least expect it.

No one in real life lives in a fairy tale, you never know what might push you into the depths of the abyss again.

I feel good for people who can overcome their traumas, ailments, and misfortunes, or their lives improve a little.. even if it's just for a while. And that doesn't mean that they should leave the forum.

Believe me, we're here for a reason. And if you ever thought about suicide, it's like a shadow that will haunt you forever.

So, if you have any peaceful/happy moments, enjoy them. You don't owe anyone any explanations.

 

[Ligottian]

Happiness is a fleeting moment, life is chaotic and will always stab you in the back when you least expect it.

No one in real life lives in a fairy tale, you never know what might push you into the depths of the abyss again.

I feel good for people who can overcome their traumas, ailments, and misfortunes, or their lives improve a little.. even if it's just for a while. And that doesn't mean that they should leave the forum.

Believe me, we're here for a reason. And if you ever thought about suicide, it's like a shadow that will haunt you forever.

So, if you have any peaceful/happy moments, enjoy them. You don't owe anyone any explanations.

Please tell me what that reason is.

 

[JesiBel]

Please tell me what that reason is.

Seeking death, talking about our miserable existences, searching and learning about methods.. The name of the forum is pretty obvious, isn't it? You've been here for several years now.

 

[SchizoGymnast]

I'm probably one of those happy pro-lifers you are referring to. I don't think suicide necessarily has to be the end result of a negative situation. It can also be a result of a conscious choice to end on a high note. "I've read an amazing book, now it's time to close it" sort of thing.

Feelings aren't linear. They can happen simultaneously, the same way people can have love/hate relationships with their jobs. My personal life is quiet and fun, but also marred by health struggles. My job pays well and fits in with my ideals, but it exposes me to a LOT of trauma. Sometimes the good doesn't outweigh the bad, the trauma is too heavy to carry, and I start to feel like I want to end it.