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Unbelonging

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I'm sorry if this question is stupid but inert gas poisoning always seems like the perfect method to me, it is painless, comfortable, and you pass out within a few seconds. You can do it anywhere you want and it also seems much more easily accessible than N or SN, so is there any disadvantage to inert gases that I'm missing, which causes people to want other methods?
 
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LaVieEnRose

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Price (at least as far as SN is concerned) and the technical logistics of inert gas can be daunting. SN is given the most attention here so new users have gravitated towards that. Also poisoning by ingesting something can seem mentally the easiest way.
 
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bunsïy

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I think another factor for SN that makes it so appealing (at least for me) is if you have a failed attempt, most people have reported no permanent damage unlike other methods that could have permanent life altering damage (brain damage, organ failure etc).

It all comes down to personal preference and whats most accessible for each individual.
 
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hiddenbpd

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Seeing the set ups for inert gas method scares me. The masks freak me out, and to think that I have to die with that on makes me panic. But that's just me .
 
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I'm sorry if this question is stupid but inert gas poisoning always seems like the perfect method to me, it is painless, comfortable, and you pass out within a few seconds. You can do it anywhere you want and it also seems much more easily accessible than N or SN, so is there any disadvantage to inert gases that I'm missing, which causes people to want other methods?
One word: Accessibility.
 
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Sapphire

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Nov 22, 2022
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It costs about 500-600 to get everything that you need. The cost is a deterrent for some people. Other people are intimated by the technical aspect of having to set everything up correctly. If they don't set it up correctly and something goes wrong, they will end up a vegetable.
 
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dogtired

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Jul 3, 2023
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It does seem like a lovely peaceful way to die but from what I've read the process of organising it sounds kinda overwhelming - having to find, buy, set up and use a bunch of equipment I'm not familiar with, making sure I get it all right when it's so new and complicated and makes me think of a science experiment. If it was all more accessible I'd definitely consider it though.
 
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Forever Sleep

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I was tempted by inert gas. Buying and storing a large cylinder of gas troubles me though. My neighbours are super nosey. Plus, buying the right thing for everything else I find a bit daunting. I don't know really, I still wonder if the mask would feel claustrophobic and whether that would make me panic. I do have SN. Can't say I feel all that calm about using that either!
 
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I was tempted by inert gas. Buying and storing a large cylinder of gas troubles me though. My neighbours are super nosey. Plus, buying the right thing for everything else I find a bit daunting. I don't know really, I still wonder if the mask would feel claustrophobic and whether that would make me panic. I do have SN. Can't say I feel all that calm about using that either!
Guess you gotta pick your poison, no pun intended. I've got SN too but I do feel better with AE, Benzos and Propranolol.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
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Guess you gotta pick your poison, no pun intended. I've got SN too but I do feel better with AE, Benzos and Propranolol.

Very true. Just always feels like we are only able to pick the lesser of the evils. Can't say anything exactly sounds ideal.
 
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SmoolPepe

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May 30, 2023
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As Ive considered it as an option, ill mention what my main issues with this were:
- Im honestly too dumb to understand all the requirements of handling gases, technical terms, tools and so on. Its like reading code... its legit hieroglyphics to me.
- pure inert gases are not so easy to come by as most are mixed with other stuff or are otherwise too expensive and only sold to businesses in which case you have to provide certain documentation (At least where i live)
- as per point 1, its also scary to handle gases in and of itself, let alone when you dont even know what youre doing and half-ass it.

It may not be as peaceful but there`s other ways to CTB i guess, it is what it is. But inert gases sure seem like the best method to me as well.
 
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Sweet Tart

Sweet Tart

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May 10, 2023
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It does seem like a lovely peaceful way to die but from what I've read the process of organising it sounds kinda overwhelming - having to find, buy, set up and use a bunch of equipment I'm not familiar with, making sure I get it all right when it's so new and complicated and makes me think of a science experiment. If it was all more accessible I'd definitely consider it though.
Yes. Taking on a new, detailed project is something I could do when I was in a better state of mind than I am now. It's hard to meet my basic needs, let alone educate myself about an expensive and technically complex way to ctb (in comparison with many methods).

I wish it were easier to see myself using this kind of method due to it being nonviolent, quick, and painless.
 
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befree

befree

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There is more technical effort with inert gas than swallowing a substance. But still, I don't think it's complicated.
 
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Very true. Just always feels like we are only able to pick the lesser of the evils. Can't say anything exactly sounds ideal.
Only thing that would sound ideal is N but that's out of the question.
 
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アホペンギン

Jul 10, 2023
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I think another factor for SN that makes it so appealing (at least for me) is if you have a failed attempt, most people have reported no permanent damage unlike other methods that could have permanent life altering damage (brain damage, organ failure etc).

It all comes down to personal preference and whats most accessible for each individual.
someone told me that you could have serious brain damage is SN fails. It makes sense because of hypoxia, right? deprives your brain of oxygen so you're gonna get brain damage.. Im confused i need reassurance
 
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someone told me that you could have serious brain damage is SN fails. It makes sense because of hypoxia, right? deprives your brain of oxygen so you're gonna get brain damage.. Im confused i need reassurance
You are probably talking about this thread:
 
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escapeplan12

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Jun 12, 2023
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Inert gas is the cost and setup. I have a cylinder and I got a regulator, but the regulator that came is different and unsure if it will work.
Then sourcing an eebd or making an exit bag, hosing it up..... I suffer with brain fog and confidence myself so not getting very far.

Probably have to end up buying a brand new scba setup which is expensive, and then there os the worry the air2nitrogen adaptor doesn't fit. It's a new source of stress for sure, but I do have a cylinder so far.
A forum member has been patient answering my questions but I'm still no further.

IG sounds peaceful when ready, why I pursued it. The other option is hanging.

SN is equally difficult it seems to source it, test it then get the accompanying meds which can prove as difficult. Pretty gutted I wasn't around here when EM/IC was in business, lot easier just months ago
 
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befree

befree

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Problem is that the threaded connections on the cylinder are different in some countries than in the EU. This makes it more difficult to find the right adapter.
but I do have a cylinder so far
What is the threaded connection (internal or external, size), EU/UK/US ?
 
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Aergia

Aergia

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Jun 20, 2023
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Inert gas would've been my first choice (I was reading the PPH to find out about methods for the first time, and inert gases are in the first section iirc). Unfortunately I couldn't find them easily online. It seemed most of the sellers I could find in my country only sold to companies and needed to be contacted for quotes. When I did see prices online they were way out of my price range. Plus, I live with my family, and 5kg gas canisters (not to mention the apparatus needed to measure flow rate, etc.) are hardly inconspicuous, and they're not very portable either.

On the other hand, it took only a google search to find a lab supplies store in a nearby city that'd sell me SN, which I just kept in my backpack when I went back home.
 
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ApparentlyNot

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Jul 8, 2023
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As someone who reeeealllly wanted to do the inert gas method but is opting for something else (CO Charcoal in a tent almost definitely), it is because it's complicated, it's expensive, I don't feel confident in my ability to make a proper exit bag and keep it on my head in the right way during the whole process (if I want to address this concern with a premade hood thingy, thats just another cost and a risk of getting scammed while buying something illegal online from people I don't know, probably using crypto currency which is fucking really hard and annoying for me to use), I'd have to do the deed at home because I wouldn't be able to easily transport a big tank of nitrogen into a hotel or something, and that's a big concern because I don't want my husband to have to find me. The supplies look incredibly suspicious - I mean, if I had to hide a tank of nitrogen, I think I could do it in the basement, but the fear that my husband would see it is real, as it is large, and if it was seen at all, out of the corner of his eye or something, he would most definitely check it out because, wtf is that thing, it looks conspicuous as fuck lol. It just adds a lot of complication, and I still have the fear that I don't really understand the process. I am worried the tank of inert gas that I buy won't be "good" enough (you buy the tank based on how much volume it has, and you can't actually ever know how much actual Nitrogen in PPM is in there apparently). I use the word, apparently, a lot when discussing this method because I NEVER ACTUALLY KNOW ANYTHING or feel truly confident that the information is accurate. Also, even just ordering the tank to my house, like, what if my husband was home / the one who answers the door, and sees this massive heavy package with (probably) warning labels all over it. How would I explain what it was? I could go to a welding store and try to buy one, but I am a fairly young woman and I don't think they would sell it to me and believe I was a welder, so that gives me a lot of anxiety. There's just a lot of moving parts to the whole process.

Another thing that pushed me away, was @Vizzy who was a user here who successfully CTB. He has a lot of information in his threads about exactly how to set up inert gas with exit bag or hood. I was using all his information to learn how to do this successfully because he has photos and lays the whole thing out in a nearly step-by-step process that simplifies the whole thing - it was all very detailed and he seemed super confident - if you go around asking for info about inert gas method, I'm sure his stuff will be linked because it is considered a valuable resource on SaSu. But then I read his "Goodbye" thread and saw that he ended up using SN, and that made me extremely concerned. I was like, if he has this amazing set up for Inert Gas, why is he opting for SN? Especially when he stated explicitly, several times, that inert gas was his first choice and first attempt method. It was like, he set up all this information and stuff, has this amazing set up, and then randomly in his goodbye thread says "ok, taking my SN now, bye" and I was like, wait what? what happened to the inert gas? and I still don't fucking know.

However, I have been informed by another user that there were apparently photos of Vizzy's body, and he was wearing the hood, so that user suggested that maybe the SN made him vomit and THEN he used inert gas as the "real" method. But still, in this case, then why didn't he opt for that initially? Maybe he was doubling up on methods or something to ensure success, but I can't find the information in his many many threads. It just felt really wrong to be using this guys information as my step by step guide, when he ended up taking SN and not even using it... like, to my logic, something must have went wrong... and that worried me a lot.
 
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shantyizlit

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Really, what was the point?
Jul 7, 2023
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That shit's too technical first of all haven't even bothered to look up how to do it, drugs just fit me the best so heroin overdose it is.
 
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OutOfTheVoid

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Feb 10, 2023
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It costs about 500-600 to get everything that you need. The cost is a deterrent for some people. Other people are intimated by the technical aspect of having to set everything up correctly. If they don't set it up correctly and something goes wrong, they will end up a vegetable.
dang had my hopes up for a sec, that risk of it going wrong so badly terrifies me. i tend to fuck everything up and im bad at pretty much everything so i couldnt trust myself to do everything correctly and not fuck it up
 
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traveller89

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May 6, 2023
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Another thing that pushed me away, was @Vizzy who was a user here who successfully CTB. He has a lot of information in his threads about exactly how to set up inert gas with exit bag or hood. I was using all his information to learn how to do this successfully because he has photos and lays the whole thing out in a nearly step-by-step process that simplifies the whole thing - it was all very detailed and he seemed super confident - if you go around asking for info about inert gas method, I'm sure his stuff will be linked because it is considered a valuable resource on SaSu. But then I read his "Goodbye" thread and saw that he ended up using SN, and that made me extremely concerned. I was like, if he has this amazing set up for Inert Gas, why is he opting for SN? Especially when he stated explicitly, several times, that inert gas was his first choice and first attempt method. It was like, he set up all this information and stuff, has this amazing set up, and then randomly in his goodbye thread says "ok, taking my SN now, bye" and I was like, wait what? what happened to the inert gas? and I still don't fucking know.

However, I have been informed by another user that there were apparently photos of Vizzy's body, and he was wearing the hood, so that user suggested that maybe the SN made him vomit and THEN he used inert gas as the "real" method. But still, in this case, then why didn't he opt for that initially? Maybe he was doubling up on methods or something to ensure success, but I can't find the information in his many many threads. It just felt really wrong to be using this guys information as my step by step guide, when he ended up taking SN and not even using it... like, to my logic, something must have went wrong... and that worried me a lot.
I was planing to choose IG+EB, but it was difficult to set up it for a woman, but I was trying the last 2-3 month. But @Vizzy who did so many research on this method and set the all equipment up and was ready to do it suggested taking SN. I'm asking a question: Why? May be "he was doubling up on methods"? Thi worried me a lot too.
 
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befree

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Mar 22, 2022
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You can´t ask V. anymore why they suggested SN instead. You just said yourself inert gas was too complicated for you. Better alternatives to the EB would be SCUBA or SCBA. But of course this is your decision and not a recommendation.
 
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flyaway

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Jul 11, 2020
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When I first started researching methods this actually seemed like a good option for me. But soon I realized that it also has a big room for error. For a person like me who has never done anything similar in their life it's simply not worth the risk. Although it could bring some discomfort, I find drinking a substance much more appealing and easier to achieve.
 
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KarmaBus

KarmaBus

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Apr 15, 2023
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Vizzy was very determined to go, he had three methods (Nitrogen, SN or jumping as last resort) and he was successful with IG. I read the article after he passed. Wether he took SN or not IDK, but to those worried about his instructions I would say he was extremely detailed, well researched and was successful with his IG setup.
 
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Octavia

Octavia

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Mar 4, 2023
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It costs about 500-600 to get everything that you need. The cost is a deterrent for some people. Other people are intimated by the technical aspect of having to set everything up correctly. If they don't set it up correctly and something goes wrong, they will end up a vegetable.
Wait… a vegetable? As in, brain is dead but body is still live? So if I set up a PoA (living will), my brain would be allowed to die while the viable organs can be donated?
 
Das Nichts

Das Nichts

Dead Man Walking
Apr 8, 2023
521
It costs about 500-600 to get everything that you need. The cost is a deterrent for some people. Other people are intimated by the technical aspect of having to set everything up correctly. If they don't set it up correctly and something goes wrong, they will end up a vegetable.
You have a high chance with being disabled in some form with any ctb method.

For IG the only real concern is being "rescued "at an unfortunate time.
 
GasMonkey

GasMonkey

Nitrogen Master Race
May 15, 2022
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just another cost and a risk of getting scammed while buying something illegal online
What? 😆. All the equipment is legal and can be bought on 100% legal shops in the openweb. When full ready-to-use kits existed they were legal too.​
 
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