Why do people hate the suicidal?

[NefariousWish]

Its weird to see such blinding rage when they're confronted with a suicide or a suicidal person.

 

[Blutsager]

Because of the same reason my mom is annoyed with me when I tried bleach the groceries I bought to desinfect it. On every step I try to take, and honestly I won't try anymore, I remind her how serious this threat is.

When you speak of suicide, you bring people into reality: out of their dreams of immortality and happy lives, and remind them of their mortality, and of how some people's lives are miserable.

Even now... I wanna believe this ain't so bad. The pandemia and all that. That it'll blow over in a few months. But it will never go away. Ever. And to others who live on that dream any action you do that brings them back into reality hurts. This is why I won't take any more precautions than any imposed by the law anymore. We are all gonna die... Might as well not stress my mom about it too much then shall we?.

 

[Kumachan]

Its weird to see such blinding rage when they're confronted with a suicide or a suicidal person.

rage? might be too strong a word tho, maybe something closer to irritation mixed with fear... Exactly because it reminds ppl of their own often precarious position... Positive thinking seems to have become a thing nowadays... Project success, think happy thoughts no matter what, dont rain on my parade mate!

 

[muffin222]

I also think that it's because suicide jolts people into a reality they'd rather not face

 

[HorribleFeelings1]

I also think that it's because suicide jolts people into a reality they'd rather not face

Agree, no one wants to have their love ones commit suicide, I wouldn't say hate but worried and sad.

 

[dandan]

Its weird to see such blinding rage when they're confronted with a suicide or a suicidal person.

Duh... because it's not easy to understand, they assume cowardice, or it could be something else... many people , many reasons ... everyone has his her own opinion.

 

[Inferdan]

People who haven't suffered as much live in their own little bubble of reality, where they exist in bliss ignorance. Anything that threatens to pop that bubble is a threat that'll bring the, into reality, and a lot of them do not care about such things, just keeping their perfect little world together. Suicide is taught as a bad thing, as well, so is treated as such. Sure, it can be bad, but there are those with no other option, or who want nothing else but to go, and know exactly why. Of course, those people are deemed "sick" and given chemical pills to "fix" the issue. There are therapists who try and heels, and others who couldn't care less. At the end, they're trying to rid of the depression and suicidal thoughts so that people are "rectified" and set back onto the path of life, sometimes being on meds for their whole life. They dislike it, fear it. People just want to be rid of anything that'll break the illusion they've built for themselves. And of course, those in power have found out how to profit off of that, too.

Hope this makes sense

 

[Matthias_k]

People don't hate the suicidal. They are angry, sad. The ones who really loved you just can't understand and accept it. Believe me It's not easy to deal with suicide when it happens to you.

 

[Emily123]

People hate whatever that they can not understand

 

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[GoodPersonEffed]

From a personal perspective, I was traumatized in high school by a boyfriend's ctb, no note, no signs in advance. I was a real jerk for a long time to anyone who considered or attempted.

It is also a social taboo. People can be driven by taboos. Think of scientists who proved that the earth revolves around the sun and not the other way around, how they were ostracized and punished. Religion plays a strong role in taboos and directing condemnation. In some Christian countries, and especially Catholic countries, suicide is a condemned action, and religious dogma, not the Bible, says that people who suicide will go to hell. Lack of access to education, or education that encourages critical thinking, also leads to a tendency to follow social mores and beliefs without questioning their validity. I think it takes a certain kind of strength to go against social norms and to question deeply or think for oneself, because social inclusion is such a strong and unconscious driving factor in social animals.

I was once in a group discussion in which many members were pro-life and politically very conservative. When I brought up suicide as a rational response to the issue we were discussing, I was attacked. Someone said, "We are pro-life." When I said I was not pro-life, one responded derisively, "Well then what are you, pro-death?" To which I responded, "No, I am pro-choice." People have a tendency to think in binary opposition, and to consider life desirable and death undesirable, so that the idea of pro-choice causes tension because it does not fit within the conventional spectrum. I definitely felt some hate directed at me in that conversation, and there was not any willingness at that moment for others to consider another perspective. Had there been torches available, it would have been a much uglier scene, people really wanted me to shut up, however not when I said, "Let's just move on then," but when they were satisfied that I had been made an example of as morally wrong, and my most verbal opponent commanded that we all move on.

 

[K-O]

jealousy? - lowkey converted to anger, moral bs, concern.. etc..
there's the fundamental freedom factor here!
and it is ours!
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jealousy? - lowkey converted to anger, moral bs, concern.. etc..
there's the fundamental freedom factor here!
and it is ours!
x

 

[Nunyabinniss]

rage? might be too strong a word tho, maybe something closer to irritation mixed with fear... Exactly because it reminds ppl of their own often precarious position... Positive thinking seems to have become a thing nowadays... Project success, think happy thoughts no matter what, dont rain on my parade mate!

I think that there's a serious problem with that and you're absolutely right people don't want their " Parade rained on I have encountered this in my own family they will not even remotely even reply to acknowledge or if I'm in person with them look at me if I see anything anything anything remotely real or what they perceived as negative it could just be a complete fact but still it's like getting the silent treatment if you start talking like that at best at worst it sounds like you get people mad at you from what I'm hearing. Fucking pisses me off the society claims to give a fuck about mental illness and all that but it's all faux care.... faux friends faux family... if they are doing well and you are not by God they do not want to be drug down anymore or risk being drug down at all by our legitimate negativity end perceived apparent negativity.

 

[Yomyom]

You can prevent suicide, you can't prevent cancer or other natural death.
Most of the people believe on the idea of preserving life as long as possible, even if it cause you pain.
I can understand that, I can't agree with it, but it's very reasonable

 

[1DayItWillBover]

What a coincidence that this topic was made after something similar happened 2 days at work. I'm just chatting shit with a co-worker. I have a fucked up sense of humor and being passively suicidal has increased that by 10x. Anyways, he asked me a question but I didnt have the answer for it. I said something of along the lines of "I'm sorry that i couldnt help you.. maybe i should kill myself."

He responded with "the last person to tell me that they were going to kill themselves, i beat the fuck out of em"

I was kinda of taken back but i just replied with "might as well start beating my ass then"

back on topic. I feel that people who aren't dealing with bad mental health have no idea how to act towards it. When i wasn't depressed I would question how any one could be depressed. I actually called that Linkin Park singer a coward for taking his own life. It's funny how that turned out because i'm still here and the only reason why im here is because im a coward.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

"the last person to tell me that they were going to kill themselves, i beat the fuck out of em"

Seems like a nice guy

 

[KiraLittleOwl]

I didn't notice any hate, just total rejection of suicidal ideation

You can prevent suicide, you can't prevent cancer or other natural death.
Most of the people believe on the idea of preserving life as long as possible, even if it cause you pain.
I can understand that, I can't agree with it, but it's very reasonable

It's not reasonable if we consider quality of life to be a factor. Why tolerate pain, I don't understand those people, they lack empathy or they simply can't grasp the concept of living in constant emotional pain.

 

[BPD Barbie]

People don't hate the suicidal. They are angry, sad. The ones who really loved you just can't understand and accept it. Believe me It's not easy to deal with suicide when it happens to you.

Yeah, I'd agree and say hate is a strong word to use. It's more they are scared of what they can't control, what they can't see and don't understand. Humans react differently and portray emotions differently as well. I know from losing people to suicide that I went through very mixed emotions.

 

[Yomyom]

It's not reasonable if we consider quality of life to be a factor. Why tolerate pain, I don't understand those people, they lack empathy or they simply can't grasp the concept of living in constant emotional pain.

Still, existence always be better than unexistence to most people, quality of life didn't really matter, not because they hate people, I don't really think that's the reason.
I think they really think that they can help you and all suicidal people.
Can you really blame your family or friends if they prevent you to ctb?

And Don't forget the religious people or people with a certain believes (most of the world) -
Existence is a gift from God and you don't have the right to bring it back

 

[a.n.kirillov]

Can you really blame your family or friends if they prevent you to ctb?

Yes and no.

I know they lack understanding, and for that I can not blame them. But if I do not judge them, I would not act in accordance with two of my main values, which are liberty and respect; so at least I have to let them know how I think about the issue.

 

[Nunyabinniss]

I'd say Christianity has a part to play in making it taboo, "against god" and extreamlt judgmental damnation of those who have committed suicide the suicidal folks explains a good portion of those who are religious to be judgmental off the bat. It may be Just a fraction people Who think like this but a fraction among billions is still quite a lot of people. Just a thought.

 

[BridgeJumper]

Too strong of a word?
I mean I was literally told by paramedics who rescued me to jump again and kill myself this time because Im an attention seeeker and they lost their coffee break because of me.
I was told Im faking bipolar to live off social security.
I was told Im selfish, have no empathy, am a bad person, will spend eternity in Hell

Pretty sure that kinda fits the definition of hatred, not irritation or sadness. And death threats are illegal by the way.
But what do I know...

 

[Brick In The Wall]

They hate us cause they ain't us... As funny as that sounds to me it's actually kinda true.

 

[TAW122]

I believe part of it has something to do with people being reminded of their own insecurities and mortality (most NPC's - non-playable characters or the majority of people, or rather sheep in society) just hate to have their illusory trance being broken by reality. Subconsciously, I do think a fair amount of people know the existential dread, but bringing it up oftenly provokes them to react very fiercely against it.

Another realization is from this quote, from this post on Reddit.

Society hates suicidal people, because we know that we can leave whenever we want and they resent us for that

While I do think that may be an oversimplified statement by itself, I do think that (assuming one has overcame their SI, picked a reliable and comfortable method, and is able to successfully execute their method) that can be true in a lot of people who managed to successfully CTB.

 

[Blackpoolbootz]

Guess most people can't understand how people can wish for death. They have never been in that position so can't understand even if someone was like that but stopped having the thoughts to ctb, they soon consciously forget what's it was like. It's much easier describing sadness when you are sad any other time you maybe happy and can't think that way (if that makes sense)

 

[Bct]

Aside of what others already said, I'm going to share my experience.

I've been sharing my suicidal thoughts on my social media (made it private so non-friends / non-followers can't see my posts). My friend's ex-girlfriend was triggered by my posts and force me to contact psychologists, before she unfollowed me.

Months later on another social media, turns out she was so triggered because other people's suicidal thoughts trigger her anxieties. Well, it would be fine if she was just unfollowed me without any explanation (we were barely interacting in years) or just bluntly told me that my suicidal thoughts triggered her anxieties.

I get it she just wants to preserve her own mental health and I'm fine with that, just don't do that in aggravating tone like my sufferings are invalid.

 

[The Dark Chaos]

People pontificate, "Suicide is selfishness." Career churchmen like Pater go a step further and call in a cowardly assault on the living. Oafs argue this specious line for varying reason: to evade fingers of blame, to impress one's audience with one's mental fiber, to vent anger, or just because one lacks the necessary suffering to sympathize. Cowardice is nothing to do with it - suicide takes considerable courage. Japanese have the right idea. No, what's selfish is to demand another to endure an intolerable existence, just to spare families, friends, and enemies a bit of soul-searching.

 

[rhiino]

I think it has to do with religion, it is tradition to deplore suicide. I wonder how it is in other cultures, e. g. muslim countries.