Why do people choose SN instead of hanging?

[E Butler]

So SN can take up to 20 minutes to induce unconsiousness, all the while you're experiencing the agonising pain of your body not getting enough oxygen. Hanging on the other hand can induce unconsiousness in just a matter of seconds and all the unpleasant side effects are avoided.

Seriously why does SN have such a reputation here?

 

[Gangrel]

There is no agonizing pain, multiple people reported here that SN just makes your heart go fast and then you get very drowsy. From trusted people who accompanied people doing it and survivors.

 

[Unspoken7612]

I have trying partial suspension before, it was too painful to go through with.

Full suspension would be more effective but needs a suitable site. The moment before you enter suspension is likely to strongly trigger survival instincts. It also seems to me like there's a reasonable chance of "view from halfway down" issues.

Finally, if you're found, there is a good chance of brain damage. SN seems to have a much lower risk.

There is no agonizing pain, multiple people reported here that SN just makes your heart go fast and then you get very drowsy. From trusted people who accompanied people doing it and survivors.

It's not *agonising*, but almost everyone who takes it, vomits. Vomiting is very unpleasant.
The unpleasantness is what leads to most failures; people seek medical help because they're too uncomfortable.

 

[Light_]

So SN can take up to 20 minutes to induce unconsiousness, all the while you're experiencing the agonising pain of your body not getting enough oxygen. Hanging on the other hand can induce unconsiousness in just a matter of seconds and all the unpleasant side effects are avoided.

Seriously why does SN have such a reputation here?

stop trying to scare people with agonizing pain rhetoric. it's not true. no one asking you to take SN. if you think you have a better way out, if you are actually in need of ctb, then go with that instead.

 

[divinemistress87]

The risk of brain damage is to scary with hanging

 

[E Butler]

stop trying to scare people with agonizing pain rhetoric. it's not true. no one asking you to take SN. if you think you have a better way out, if you are actually in need of ctb, then go with that instead.

I'm just going of anecdotal reports on here. People say they experience air hunger and panic.

 

[Mooncry]

My weird anatomy makes partial and ligature method damn near impossible to get right. I've never been able to compress my carotids with a ligature, no matter how hard I try. And judging by how many posts I scoured on this site trying to find answers on how to successfully find the "sweet spot," there are many other people who experience the same thing.

I also have no ideal place or means to do a full suspension, nor do I have the willpower to fight the SI, even if that wasn't the case.

I've done a ton of research on SN and I know it's the best option for me short of shooting myself in the head (which is plan B.) I tried and tried and tried to CTB via partial/ligature many times and failed to even come close, but it was plan A at one point.

SN causing panic is understandable. It's SI kicking in doing what SI does. It's why they recommend a benzo. As for air hunger, I don't know why it would cause that, seeing as how you can still breathe perfectly normally—your blood just isn't being oxygenated. The tachycardia may make you breathe faster, but that's not necessarily "air hunger." And while each person's definition of "agony" is going to be different, generally speaking, there is nothing agonizing about SN. Discomforting, yeah. Death always comes with some degree of discomfort. But anyone who suggests outright agony and suffering with SN is very likely fear mongering.

That's my two cents anyway.

 

[sweetcreep]

hang yourself the wrong way, which is very easy to do, and it's more agonizing than throwing up and feeling sick. chances of survival are too high for my liking. and then to come out of that with brain damage? i prefer something that i know will work based on all the sources i've read. if you follow the protocol correctly, it can even be peaceful, considering that you're dying which is very rarely a peaceful event.

 

[Peter Skellern]

Because it's pleasanter. Your description is a complete over-exaggeration.

 

[NonEssential]

I'd rather want to use SN, but it seems to be very difficult to get it and whatever pills you need alongside it, compared to just buying rope from the nearest hardware store.

 

[tiredoflife2]

Personally, because it seems more pleasant to go to sleep rather than having the hassle of setting up a reliable hanging method.

 

[ittinglesconstantly]

I also assume part of the reason people prefer SN to hanging is that it's simply far easier to actually overcome SI. While getting SN isn't as easy as getting rope, actually taking it might be easier than hanging yourself. I've tried killing myself full suspension. Obviously, I didn't succeed because I couldn't overcome SI.

However, I do disagree with the people here saying hanging is unreliable. It's only unreliable if unplanned. A planned hanging usually works.

 

[Jisatsu]

The likelihood of death is higher with SN

 

[TheHolySword]

I don't know why people are so insistent on fighting over which method is the best. It's all personal. Choose which one is the best for you, let others do the same, and move on.

 

[NonEssential]

I don't know why people are so insistent on fighting over which method is the best. It's all personal. Choose which one is the best for you, let others do the same, and move on.

Like a competition. Are you Team SN or Team Hanging? lol

 

[locked*n*loaded]

It's simply easier to drink something to ctb than to rig up a hanging system.

 

[FuneralCry]

I'd personally prefer a poison method, hanging sounds terrifying and risky to me, I'd fear it failing and leading to way more suffering, I wish I had a reliable poison so finally I can be at peace and never suffer ever again, all I hope for is to permanently cease existing.

 

[betternever2havbeen]

I might be vastly underestimating how hard SN is to go through with but hanging seemed impossible even thinking about doing it. I did find this place from coming across a hanging thread though so it was my first choice. Obviously I hadn't heard of SN back then and had ruled out all poisons due to thinking they'd all be incredibly painful. Being in the UK I don't have a lot of options but finding out about SN was quite the relief for me and something I thought I could go through with. I think generally it's easier to drink something than do hanging, but then I've not got a cup of SN beside me with the intention of trying to drink it yet. There's always the worry of how painful hanging could be and no way to back out which is a possibility with SN-although obviously you shouldn't try it with the intention of changing your mind and it might be too late anyway. I feel like hanging is just brutal tho.

 

[ShatteredSerenity]

I really don't like the idea getting choked to death hanging from a rope, it sounds painful and absolutely terrifying.

SN is also unpleasant, but it's a more moderate pain over a longer time, similar to an illness such as flu or COVID. I have more confidence I can do it right, and there won't be the same risk of injury if I fail. It's also easy to do in a hotel. Perhaps most importantly, I'm pretty confident I can overcome SI to drink the SN solution. No matter how good a method is, it's a moot point if you can't make yourself do it when the time comes.

 

[Eudaimonic]

To answer the question, full suspension hanging is psychologically more difficult due to extent of the body envelope violation, less forgiving when it comes to error (higher chance of brain damage and other sequelae), can be very painful/take a long time to pass out if you are unlucky or don't set it up correctly, and I have nowhere to do it.

Partial suspension is notoriously difficult to get right due to anatomical differences, angles, and body position required to suppress the carotids, with a high chance of sequelae if you botch the attempt or are rescued, and I have nowhere to practice it.

I need something reliable, not very painful, easy to conceal, accessible, relatively low effort/not very technical, that kills in a reasonable timeframe, and which can be done at a hotel. SN fits the bill and nothing else really does.

As for air hunger, I don't know why it would cause that, seeing as how you can still breathe perfectly normally—your blood just isn't being oxygenated. The tachycardia may make you breathe faster, but that's not necessarily "air hunger."

It causes air hunger due to the metabolic acidosis, but it shouldn't be akin to hypercapnic air hunger, and benzos help a lot with the psychological side of things. To oversimplify, body thinks CO2 levels are high because the lactic acid buildup makes the blood more acidic, and this leads to hyperventilation to expel air from the lungs more quickly.

 

[NonEssential]

Seems like the SN method is something that's difficult to acquire, but easier to execute. The opposite of hanging which is easy to acquire, but difficult to execute.

 

[waistcoat]

As others have said - there is no agonising pain. That being said, there are negative side effects. As for me in specific - those side effects are actually the reason i'm choosing SN. It sounds comforting in a very weird and fucked up way.

 

[Zaphkiel]

Because SN is less painful, more reliable, with less chances of permanents complications if fuck up.
Hanging is, lets be honest, a primitive and barbaric way that is often a last ressort when it comes to methods.
If people could, they'd most likely do inert gazs, but its technical and expensive, next come SN wich is not technical but need to be supplied.
If you can't do this one, you're methods are kinda down to the basics one, like jumping or hanging. There's a reason why most people ask about SN and not how to make a knot and where to put a rope on the neck.

 

[WhenIBreathe]

Because I can do SN at home. If I chose hanging I would have to go and find somewhere else to do it. I feel like too much can go wrong for me with hanging and the fear of having to live with the consequences of failing is too much.