Discussion Why do most suicidal people seem to be the sweetest people on this planet?

[4everHeartBroken]

I noticed everyone here seems so empathetic and supportive. Why can't the rest of the world work like this?

 

[divinemistress36]

People that have the most empathy are generally those who have been through a lot of pain themselves

 

[onbekend]

I've noticed it too. Almost every mainstream coverage of this website portrays this place as some extremely toxic and terrible website,
But in reality we all are supportive of each other. I think this is because we all can relate to each others struggles, Unlike the people outside this website who flat out deny our issues or try to help you out of a desire to fuel their own ego rather than out of care for you.

 

[Proteus]

I think it's more related to consent than suicidality, I've met non-suicidal people who is also very kind who also believed in the right to die. On the other hand, most suicidal people doesn't at all and aren't much different from other people. When you just don't want control over other's life you start seeing things with more perspective and can understand others better. Unlike you think, you guys are a minority, most suicidal people (most people in general) isn't like this at all.

 

[kawaiiphantom]

I noticed everyone here seems so empathetic and supportive. Why can't the rest of the world work like this?

Right???? Like this place is the social media/forum that I've seen have the least amount of toxic people. Of course there are exceptions. But it's unlikely you will get nasty replies from what I've seen, it's very heartwarming seeing people connect and support eachother (´｡• ᵕ •｡`) ♡

 

[oneeyed]

Not to put a damper on this thread but this is also just an online forum. I doubt many of us actually know someone here personally in real life. But then again I'm weary abs untrusting of everyone.

 

[returntothevoid]

It's because living is survival. And to survive you have to compete. Only the meanest, most selfish ones make it to the top and survive, outcompeting the others. You see this all the time if you study biology and look at other species. I sometimes think about how I'm just too nice for this world, and I mean that in the least egotistical way possible, I mean I have too much empathy/kindness and that makes me weak. I was never going to be able to compete and live in this kind of world where cruelty is rewarded, I don't have the heart to do it.

 

[BlazingBob]

It's because living is survival. And to survive you have to compete. Only the meanest, most selfish ones make it to the top and survive, outcompeting the others. You see this all the time if you study biology and look at other species. I sometimes think about how I'm just too nice for this world, and I mean that in the least egotistical way possible, I mean I have too much empathy/kindness and that makes me weak. I was never going to be able to compete and live in this kind of world where cruelty is rewarded, I don't have the heart to do it.

My malignant narcissist dad said you kind of have to be an asshole to be super successful and be willing to step over a few dead bodies. I'm simply refused to do it and here I am sick and about to be homeless. Had I been a selfish prick I'm sure I'd be doing great because that's what this world rewards, and that's one of the reasons I plan on leaving it.

 

[GreenGlassDoor]

I think its because we understand how much pain someone can be going through. And being familiar with lying and secrets we tend to stray from assumptions about someone else's life. Its easier to empathize since we have felt a good deal of pain to.

 

[rozeske]

I think when someone goes through so much pain and suffering it can go either one of two ways. They either want to protect everyone from that pain they know all too well and try and give as much love and support they deserved but never got to have, or pain and hurt is all they know and they endup reflecting as much of that as possible. Don't quote me on it but i think both of this two ways are in a way a coping mechanism for the said person to a past truma and suffering.

 

[TiredOfAllThis]

They have been through a lot and are just tired.

 

[SexyIncél]

I noticed everyone here seems so empathetic and supportive.

There's an unusually diverse bunch, because the topic is universal: existence vs nonexistence. Cuts across those highly artificial communities that divide us: race, nation-state, Apple vs Android

Also, there's a social structure for situations when participants attack/hate each other, with some pretty damn perceptive people

Why can't the rest of the world work like this?

That would require a revolution: a change in society's defining institutions. Into ones that allow many different zones of experimentation (utopias)

 

[FuneralCry]

I noticed otherwise, this place really doesn't seem "supportive" anymore which is a shame. But anyway I'm not even surprised as humans are such a terrible, insensitive species, it's sad how many of them just create way more suffering. There is no empathy for suicidal people anywhere, if you hate life you will be hated for it and made to feel worse.

 

[4everHeartBroken]

People that have the most empathy are generally those who have been through a lot of pain themselves

Agreed.

 

[Gonnerr]

Maybe we know we are going to die soon , so being kind before leaving is a just a normal thing among suicidal people. That's my theory. But there might be other reasons.

 

[mehdone]

Maybe it's because when we have experienced this state of desperately wanting to ctb- we are at the lowest point we can be (or at least we think we are, until life beats us down even lower).

At that point it's not about empathy. We don't have to imagine the horrible pain someone else is going through, we don't have to imagine ourselves in their shoes- we can directly relate to that pain from our own experience. We've been through it ourselves, or are still going through it ourselves.

There is no reach to connect, no misunderstanding. We're in the same place, or have been in the same place, and we can recognize that in each other.

There is something to be said for that familiarity.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

I dunno, but I like to think I'm the exception.

 

[Doemu]

They understand suffering, and don't want no one suffer more. They know most of fights are just useless and only harm people.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Because suicidal people tend to be anti suffering as opposed to those who were never suicidal to begin with. Those who were never suicidal are pro suffering

 

[4everHeartBroken]

Maybe it's because when we have experienced this state of desperately wanting to ctb- we are at the lowest point we can be (or at least we think we are, until life beats us down even lower).

At that point it's not about empathy. We don't have to imagine the horrible pain someone else is going through, we don't have to imagine ourselves in their shoes- we can directly relate to that pain from our own experience. We've been through it ourselves, or are still going through it ourselves.

There is no reach to connect, no misunderstanding. We're in the same place, or have been in the same place, and we can recognize that in each other.

There is something to be said for that familiarity.

Mehdone… Very Well Said. Thank you for your reply.

 

[0000000000000]

I have become a miserable and self-centered idiot.

My 'true' personality is buried in trauma and it hardly comes out.

 

[MiMif]

Not to put a damper on this thread but this is also just an online forum. I doubt many of us actually know someone here personally in real life. But then again I'm weary abs untrusting of everyone.

That's what I wanted to say...

This is online alot of people act differently online then in real life. Maybe I'm just a bitter person but I don't think everyone here is as kind as they seem on here.

Not sure how I appear to be on this site but in real life I honestly shut everyone out and damper the mood everywhere.

People on here are so nice because we all understand each other to some extent and share something as deep as wanting to end our existence.

Alot of depressed people don't act the best...from my experience anyway myself included.

 

[MidnightCat]

I don't think most suicidal people are "better" than general population but I think it's easier to find 2 opposites poles in our "community" of people wanting to CTB.


-The angry ones. Life's been hard, they have reasons to be angry at the entire world.

-The kind ones. They simply understand how much pain can you suffer, so they try to help.


I'm going to a rehabilitation center, and I gotta say it's hard for me to really grasp the first ones... I get life's shitty... And that you can be mad to the world. But it's hard for me to see someone feeling similar things to me... Acting so different.

 

[revolutionnaire23]

Guess it's just empathy and understanding. Since we've been in so much pain...we can sympathize with those. At least make someone feel better than ourselves, I guess.

 

[tbroken]

Not to put a damper on this thread but this is also just an online forum. I doubt many of us actually know someone here personally in real life. But then again I'm weary abs untrusting of everyone.

I agree. It feels like buying something on amazon and get it from the locker or help each other but well protected behind a screen, where you don't actually have to live together with the other and his personality traits.

 

[kawaiiphantom]

Guess it's just empathy and understanding. Since we've been in so much pain...we can sympathize with those. At least make someone feel better than ourselves, I guess.

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[walkingdead2023]

I noticed everyone here seems so empathetic and supportive. Why can't the rest of the world work like this?

Not really not everyone here empathetic and supportive?! At least from my experience, they have some very rude people here they leave their psych issues behind because they are too busy picking and bullying people HERE. I don't take sides, but I hate seeing someone being tortured over the content of their post so I'm not sure what you talking about! Anyway, I decided to block people (ignore) I'm going to be looking for those who respect themselves and others..

I noticed otherwise, this place really doesn't seem "supportive" anymore which is a shame. But anyway I'm not even surprised as humans are such a terrible, insensitive species, it's sad how many of them just create way more suffering. There is no empathy for suicidal people anywhere, if you hate life you will be hated for it and made to feel worse.

It's very sad and I agree with you!

 

[4everHeartBroken]

I don't think most suicidal people are "better" than general population but I think it's easier to find 2 opposites poles in our "community" of people wanting to CTB.


-The angry ones. Life's been hard, they have reasons to be angry at the entire world.

-The kind ones. They simply understand how much pain can you suffer, so they try to help.


I'm going to a rehabilitation center, and I gotta say it's hard for me to really grasp the first ones... I get life's shitty... And that you can be mad to the world. But it's hard for me to see someone feeling similar things to me... Acting so different.

Agreed.

My malignant narcissist dad said you kind of have to be an asshole to be super successful and be willing to step over a few dead bodies. I'm simply refused to do it and here I am sick and about to be homeless. Had I been a selfish prick I'm sure I'd be doing great because that's what this world rewards, and that's one of the reasons I plan on leaving it.

BlazingBob: I just wanted to say, Thank you… for not becoming a "selfish prick". We need more people like you in this world.