Why Are We Different?

[Chupacabra 44]

I keep thinking about this topic and want input from others as I struggle to assess this concept.

I love watching human behavior and try and figure out what makes people tick. But f**k, I can't even figure out myself, and anyone else who can figure me out I am offering a very tasty lunch as a reward to express my gratitude.

What makes me and you and the collective us different than our peers, who are not actively posting on this forum?

Obviously, these differences might not exist when comparing and contrasting one self to one's peers if life circumstances are just so f**ed up and most/all your peers (or my peers) would be here too if these individuals where in fact in your and/or my shoes. Clearly, this is the case for many here, but not for all.

I think I'm struggling to articulate what I am feeling and hopefully one of you extremely deep thinking and more philosophical types will let my poorly expressed concept percolate, so you can help assess my thoughts and perhaps express them more clearly and perhaps more eloquently for me.

I try and assess some core personality differences that I perceive might exist, in general, in some or most of us more frequently than in comparison to our peers.

And, assuming this might not be phrased well, I promise I'm not trying to offend anybody, so please give me the same consideration in return.

So, here is kind of my perception of what personality characteristics I'm perceiving is clustering in us (SS members) vs the general public (non SS members).

* We are more sensitive.
* We are more in tune with our feelings.
* We are more expressive.
* We are more articulate.
* We are more philosophical.
* We are more self aware.
* We are more intelligent.
* We are more melancholy.
* We are more likely to view the glass as half full.

Did I miss anything?

Do you see the same potential truth that I am perceiving?

For some unknown reason what fascinates me oftentimes doesn't fascinate others, so hopefully this isn't one of those occasions.

Additionally, some times when I have a personal epihany it is nothing but a "duh" moment for others - I hope this is not just one of those "duh" moments for me. But, if you think it is, then please express your opinion for me. I never take it personally when another tells me "duh".

And, not to panic or threaten others, but if at least one person doesn't keep me interested and engaged in this thread, then I'll marching straight over to my "musical flashbacks" thread to post videos of the Village People, the Bay City Rollers, ABBA, etc., And I trust no one will take this threat lightly. Lol

Thanks for reading and hopefully I'm not barking up the wrong tree.

 

[DeadBirdSaysGoodbye]

Personality (& all the multitude of things that make it up) will play a part.
In my case it's aspects of brain function ( some neurodevelopmental f**k ups) + some family history of depression & suicidality.
I'm not personally more sensitive or tuned in than others. I am less cognitively functional & consequently more beset by self-created f**k ups & chronically flooded with stress hormones than others.
That's my situation. Not edifying & not entertaining but sh**ily true.
Hope you get something better out of the others.

 

[almost_dead]

I love kittens !

 

[DeadBirdSaysGoodbye]

To be honest I think that it's only the last two items on your list of possibles that are relevant here.
Those attracted to this sight & posting & contemplating ctb more likely than others to be melancholy and glass half full.
I understand the impulse to look for some kind of transcendent quality in us as a group. All outsider groups seem primed (by rose tinted outlooked, well meaning advocates/well wishers/ the media/ whoever seeking to reframe in order to encourage) to see themselves as some how special or different in a good way even when their situation is by definition negative/ disadvantaged.
I am afraid that there is no up to being suicidal.

 

[DyingAlf]

Well I can't speak for other people but for myself....

* We are more sensitive.
Yes I'm quite sensitive.

* We are more in tune with our feelings.
I'm so numb so much of the time I rarely feel in tune with my feelings.

* We are more expressive.
No.

* We are more articulate.
Definitely not.

* We are more philosophical.
Definitely not.

* We are more self aware.
I'm not really sure what people (you in this case) mean by that.

* We are more intelligent.
Definitely not.

* We are more melancholy.
I am now that I'm depressed & suicidalbut didn't used to be.

* We are more likely to view the glass as half full.
It varies.

I think that there's a huge variety of different people here, with different thoughts/feelings/personalities/beliefs that you can't really try to lump us all into one category except that....
Most of us are pro choice.
All of us have discovered SS.

 

[Deleted member 19654]

I don't know how familiar you are with the Myers Briggs Type Indictor personality test. A while back, someone posted a thread asking what people's types were and the majority of the answers were the introverted types. There were also a lot of INFJs

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/what-personality-type-are-you.44702/

 

[Malatesta]

In general I agree with you. Perhaps the fact of wanting to control one's own death, and not leaving it in the hands of others or fate, makes us more direct, more aware, less proud, more empathetic and less in need of standing out and showing how good we are.

 

[Mischievous]

The answer is hard because the variability in our biology and experiences are widely different from one another. Robert Sapolsky covers this in his lectures at Stanford about Human Behavioural Biology. His book, "behave" is a bit more accessible imo but still really good at explaining what goes into creating our behaviour.

 

[Mr2005]

Nothing. Nothing makes us different

 

[Didymus]

We vs them

"* We are more sensitive.
* We are more in tune with our feelings.
* We are more expressive.
* We are more articulate.
* We are more philosophical.
* We are more self aware.
* We are more intelligent.
* We are more melancholy.
* We are more likely to view the glass as half full. "


This could have been written in any forum for any group with a whatever "common interest".

We are individuals.

 

[WornOutLife]

Because non-suicidal people tend to be have some kind of chip which enables them to live a normal life and CTB thoughts are never on their minds.
We, instead, are curious about death and fed up with this world due to different reasons and just want to disappear ASAP.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

I disagree with the half glass full. Some suicidal people are pessimist. Personally I only see the negative side of things.

 

[Life_and_Death]

I personally feel you are accurate. To a degree. It depends on what kind of depressed person you are talking about. I find for the most part there's 2 groups. There's the one you described which tends to be more helpful to others even during their own down fall. Then there's the other group that hates all of humanity even though it was only a select few people that hurt them, they probably don't fit into what you described although they are still suicidal. It all depends on the person and how they react to it. I'm both. I hate the human race as a whole but I can stand individual people depending on their personality.

 

[TheQ22]

We have very few deep relationships, and so end up stuck with our own thoughts rather than discussing alternative viewpoints (confirmation bias), which inevitably for us end up being not so happy thoughts about futility, etc?

 

[LonelyNick]

I am also very curious about the human mind. There's something poetic about how people that are more intelligent than average have this overactive mind, often dwell on problems from the past and tend to worry about the future.

I think there's also mental illness to include in this, past abuse, trauma and other things in childhood that makes it difficult to handle life as an adult. Personality disorders, there's also medical condition that gives mental disorders, which is terrifying but fascinating.

I think it would be really interesting to know more about people that kill themselves in the past. Maybe that would be the key to unlock the mystery of why certain people want to die and others can carry on. After all humanity is doomed to repeat itself.

 

[Life_and_Death]

I think there's also mental illness to include in this, past abuse, trauma and other things in childhood that makes it difficult to handle life as an adult.

Cptsd and ptsd. The biggest difference I can think of is ptsd is one incident where as cptsd is a bunch of things. I have cptsd but a few incidents in life are more along the lines of ptsd.

 

[Sinkinshyp]

I think it varies. I will try not to make a HUGE posting about my life on this. I can say being born abused by my father, picked on in school than the bf I had at 15 after my father died all beat me into not having the proper skills to find the glass half full. After my life support at 18 I found I was more sensitive than most people which opened the door to be used easily. If people are given the right skills loving family, parents who are there for them they can find more happiness and more easily in life than those who didn't have. Just my opinion.

 

[Ghost2211]

I think you're mostly picking up on a common interest, and common goal. All the personalities here are vastly different, and that's part of what makes getting to know each person interesting.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

I also disagree with "We are more intelligent". Intelligent people make good decisions. I wouldn't be here if I hadn't made bad decidions. I don't consider myself intelligent. I am a stupid and silly person.

 

[Sinkinshyp]

I also disagree with "We are more intelligent". Intelligent people make good decisions. I wouldn't be here if I hadn't made bad decidions. I don't consider myself intelligent. I am a stupid and silly person.

you are not stupid or silly. I have to look up so many words on here. There is a highly intelligent base here. Everyone makes mistakes. There isn't anyone out there who has not made mistakes. Some people can live and learn from them.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

you are not stupid or silly. I have to look up so many words on here. There is a highly intelligent base here. Everyone makes mistakes. There isn't anyone out there who has not made mistakes. Some people can live and learn from them.

Thanks for your words. I learnt from my mistakes but I can't live with them.

 

[L I F E T O L O S E]

*We are more stranger

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

*We are more stranger

I don't think so. Normal people ctb. It's not a matter of being weird.

 

[Life_and_Death]

I don't think so. Normal people ctb. It's not a matter of being weird.

I've been wondering lately...... What's normal? Everyone seems to react to their daily occurances based on their life. Why are we any different? We just had a shitty life to react to.

 

[L I F E T O L O S E]

I've been wondering lately...... What's normal? Everyone seems to react to their daily occurances based on their life. Why are we any different? We just had a shitty life to react to.

probably a barrier between what is not accepted and what is accepted,but idk,I only mentioned this because many people say that I am very strange

 

[Life_and_Death]

probably a barrier between what is not accepted and what is accepted,but idk,I only mentioned this because many people say that I am very strange

I hate myself for it but around others I embrace my weirdness. They accept me for it so whatever I guess

 

[Dude1983]

Pain, makes us different

 

[esse_est_percipi]

Intelligent people make good decisions

intelligence isn't a well defined concept.
Intelligence doesn't necessarily imply consistently good decision making.
Someone could be a genius at writing or maths, or have a unique ability to insightfully understand human nature and the hidden motives of human behavior, yet have poor social skills and suffer from depression and anxiety, which undermine their capacity to navigate the social world successfully.

 

[whywere]

Overall your list is very good. I firmly believe that we are much more sensitive then the general public, intelligent and glass half full..maybe?? BUT, 1 thing I really like about your thread is how you think about your sanctioned suicide global family members here, and I LOVE IT!!!! The general theme, in my cheesy point of view, is how we here look out for each other, have much more caring, love and empathy towards one another than the general public and I feel you truly are spot on. THANK YOU for such a great thread.

 

[Sensei]

OP, I think you raise many good points, but I think you're missing one. Sometimes, we're just sick, mentally or physically, and can't stand the pain.