Why are we all here?

[Darkover]

This tought hit me like a truck recently. But just thinking how I came from nothing to something that is experience something (in this case "the human life") freaks me out.

Why I (as the thing experience this world) was born in this time, body and place. What was I before I was born? What I will become? What the hell is even all this?

These are the questions that are scaring me and giving anxiety. It's so wierd that I'm alive and existing right now.

If from "nothing" I came out alive, is it possible to happen again?

 

[iloverachel]

We are born here to be slaves in a prison and to suffer unnecessarily
We didn't even consent to being here

 

[untothedepths]

I wish we had answers. But if we did I don't know if they would be any better. And when I have those same thoughts too, Hell, who knows, maybe those guys are right and we are a bunch of NPCs for a video game. I think that's worse than any lovecraftian horror I've read IMO.

 

[Soontobegoner]

Frankly... Lately I have been thinking...
We are born to be fucked and some of got all the stds and hivs.... Only thing we are not getting is... End of this suffering.

 

[UKscotty]

Just pure random chance in an infinite universe.

There's no such thing as consent to be born as the logic makes absolutely zero sense at all.

I don't think there is such as thing as a purpose, just either make the most of it and enjoy it or CTB really. I'm not religious or anything so it doesn't get much deeper for me.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Why can you see? Because you have eyes and a brain that interprets what they perceive. When you weren't born, you didn't have eyes or a brain so- you couldn't see. When you close your eyes, you can't see. Would it make sense to question why you couldn't see before you were born? No- because you know enough about vision to know they rely on our eyes and brain.

I guess conciousness is more complicated because we don't understand it. But, put it this way... What you think about as self awareness- just that- being aware that you are alive. Did you even have that as a baby? Probably not. It seems to develop as the brain does. In fact, you probably don't even have any memories until a few years in to life.

You can likely remember what you had for lunch yesterday but you probably can't say for sure what you were thinking about at 5am- because you were likely asleep. Your self awareness pretty much goes to sleep when you do. Unless you can lucid dream. So- that suggests to me that consciousness possibly but definitely self awareness is reliant on the brain which didn't exist before we were a foetus and will either rot or be burned after we die.

Like, I agree that it's weird that we know we're alive and I suppose there could be some spiritual, greater meaning to it but I think it could just as easily be a function of how our brains work. Just like we are capable of sight because of how our eyes and brains have evolved. I suspect we simply evolved to be able to do this.

 

[FuneralCry]

I just see the existence of life as a horrific tragedy and an extremely hellish and harmful abomination. It's all just senseless, to me it's the opposite of meaningful, I believe that humans only ask these questions as they have the ability to be conscious and aware unlike animals. In my case I really wish life never existed at all, I see life itself as very evil as it's the source of all suffering, it will always be beyond tragic to me how life has to exist when the absence of everything is perfection.

 

[thewalkingdread]

There's no such thing as consent to be born as the logic makes absolutely zero sense at all.

I concede that it sounds nonsensical, illogical, to ask for the consent of a potential person who is yet non-existent. If there is no one there to give said consent, it's sounds like an impossible, unreasonable, requirement.

But that fact alone doesn't invalidate the consent argument... exactly because the circumstances in which consent is the most relevant are the ones where we can't get it, for whatever reason... And just assuming we have said consent ain't going to cut it to justify any course of action.

For example: at first, it seems nonsensical to require a cow to agree to go the slaughterhouse to be killed.

A cow obviously can't speak her mind, can't sign a legal document, etc... What kind of "crazy" person would demand that we respect a cow's will or rights?! Only "crazy vegans" care about this nonsense, right!?

In what grounds are we humans lawfully entitled to do that to a cow? Only on our own arbitrary, anthropocentric and egotistical point of view.

 

[Kit1]

Two people had sex. Sometimes it wouldn't have been consensual. We were a product of that act. The rest is drama. We die. Some are extremely lucky in the lottery of life - most are okayish and then there is the rest of us. The end is the same. Anything beyond feels like mere speculation.

 

[thewalkingdread]

Two people had sex.

That's more than a good enough of an answer to me. I don't really care anymore if the universe was created by God, a Big Bang or a Spiritual Flying Spaghetti that had a "bloody" Ghostbusters incident.

All I need to know is that, in my case, two fucking pathetic buffoons got together and BANG: they also fucking cursed me!

Anything beyond feels like mere speculation.

That's it.

I'm not in the least curious about this stupid nonsensical universe, planet, or life, anymore.

All I care about is when I'll get to finally leave this pigsty.

 

[xinino]

.Easy, life will occur when components for it are available to create chains of chemical reactions then there is no abstract "why" to explain life, but only "how".

I just see the existence of life as a horrific tragedy and an extremely hellish and harmful abomination. It's all just senseless, to me it's the opposite of meaningful, I believe that humans only ask these questions as they have the ability to be conscious and aware unlike animals. In my case I really wish life never existed at all, I see life itself as very evil as it's the source of all suffering, it will always be beyond tragic to me how life has to exist when the absence of everything is perfection.

Dualism said happiness and suffering are coexisted ,beside suffering created historical heroes, do you have any rational ideology explain why life is bad beside your nihilism?

 

[StillBreathing]

Nothing we really do on this planet called earth matters in the big picture. We are put here at random, some with better cards than others. Play your cards right and you might enjoy life for a while, for some it may be impossible even with good cards.

The way I see it, one should just give it a shot and don't take everything so serious. Stay away from news, politics, social media, capitalism and other negative influences. Find something you enjoy doing, something you are good at that gives you a feeling of accomplishment. Find like minded people who is interested in the same things as you are.

Life is and always will be unfair, but without the aforementioned things, life is meaningless. Grab any chance you get to enjoy the little and big things, because we are not staying here for long.

 

[ApathyToLife]

We're born to slave away on a job until we can retire. What usually happens in-between is you saving up enough money to afford your own house/apartment and pro-creation so that when you're bedridden, rotting from within your offspring would help you financially to afford some extremely expensive medicine just to give you a couple more years on this prison planet. The pensions in my country aren't even enough to afford food for the whole month, let alone pay the rent if you haven't managed to buy your own house by the time you get old.

Tldr: born to fuck and be fucked by your boss/supervisor.

 

[FuneralCry]

do you have any rational ideology explain why life is bad beside your nihilism?

Anyone with awareness can recognise how bad life truly is, it's simply just the way that life is. Life is so bad as like I said it's the source of all suffering, if life never was able to exist then nobody would ever be able to be harmed at all, yet as long as one exists there is unlimited potential for suffering and torment. The amount of unnecessary, meaningless suffering in this reality is simply beyond comprehension and is horrifying, with so many animals simply existing just to be eaten alive, it's just senseless agony.

Human existence is in particular an abomination to me as we are the ones who are conscious and aware enslaved in a decaying flesh prison just meaninglessly existing just to risk experiencing way worse torture at any moment, existing can get much more torturous beyond how anyone can imagine.

 

[davidtorez]

.Easy, life will occur when components for it are available to create chains of chemical reactions then there is no abstract "why" to explain life, but only "how".

Dualism said happiness and suffering are coexisted ,beside suffering created historical heroes, do you have any rational ideology explain why life is bad beside your nihilism?

I would suggest you read the book "The Human Predicament " by David Benatar ,pages 71 to 83. The answer to this question is clearly explained.

 

[Iamtired]

Nothing we really do on this planet called earth matters in the big picture. We are put here at random, some with better cards than others. Play your cards right and you might enjoy life for a while, for some it may be impossible even with good cards.

The way I see it, one should just give it a shot and don't take everything so serious. Stay away from news, politics, social media, capitalism and other negative influences. Find something you enjoy doing, something you are good at that gives you a feeling of accomplishment. Find like minded people who is interested in the same things as you are.

Life is and always will be unfair, but without the aforementioned things, life is meaningless. Grab any chance you get to enjoy the little and big things, because we are not staying here for long.

Best response ever posted on SaSu.

 

[Otaku]

I think it's so confusing to be here, to be alive.
Like OP I am very often also faced with same thoughts. It feels like we are here for some bigger picture. It feels like I am special. It feels like there is something i have to do. I know that its probably just my mind playing tricks on me.
When i think about it, my brain is telling me.. "This is no YOU are coincidence you're alive". It is sooo weird that we have a consciousness.
And should we be the only living thing in the galaxy? ( Not that science can prove very much at this time), because we can't visit other planets yet.
But as far as we know, no one from the other space has ever visited our galaxy. Not in something we could detect at least.


If i could sit down with one that was all knowing, I would really like to have answered all of my questions before i die. I know this is so freaking outlandish. But we don't know shit? We are so smart with all our phd's and fine universities, and brilliant minds. But what do we know for SURE. Not guessing or a conspiracy. I would have a lot of questions...

 

[cosmic-freedom]

An entire human being(or any other being with a complex life form) comes out from a physical act-->suffer for the rest of time-->die-->decompose.There is so much that we still have to know about our own body.How the hell can we be born out of a mere fusion of cells?That's like saying a screw split up into multiple screws and a whole satellite was formed.It's that absurd...I think about it when I feel severe detachment to my own mind and body.

 

[doneforlife]

Ig

I think it's so confusing to be here, to be alive.
Like OP I am very often also faced with same thoughts. It feels like we are here for some bigger picture. It feels like I am special. It feels like there is something i have to do. I know that its probably just my mind playing tricks on me.
When i think about it, my brain is telling me.. "This is no YOU are coincidence you're alive". It is sooo weird that we have a consciousness.
And should we be the only living thing in the galaxy? ( Not that science can prove very much at this time), because we can't visit other planets yet.
But as far as we know, no one from the other space has ever visited our galaxy. Not in something we could detect at least.


If i could sit down with one that was all knowing, I would really like to have answered all of my questions before i die. I know this is so freaking outlandish. But we don't know shit? We are so smart with all our phd's and fine universities, and brilliant minds. But what do we know for SURE. Not guessing or a conspiracy. I would have a lot of questions...

Ignorance is bliss.

 

[xinino]

Anyone with awareness can recognise how bad life truly is, it's simply just the way that life is. Life is so bad as like I said it's the source of all suffering, if life never was able to exist then nobody would ever be able to be harmed at all, yet as long as one exists there is unlimited potential for suffering and torment. The amount of unnecessary, meaningless suffering in this reality is simply beyond comprehension and is horrifying, with so many animals simply existing just to be eaten alive, it's just senseless agony.

Human existence is in particular an abomination to me as we are the ones who are conscious and aware enslaved in a decaying flesh prison just meaninglessly existing just to risk experiencing way worse torture at any moment, existing can get much more torturous beyond how anyone can imagine.

Life is a source of suffering and happiness, happiness can give life meaning. Happiness and suffering coexist; it is impossible for one to exist without the other, based on the dualism principle.

The source of human suffering is that we are not manifesting our nature as humans as animals do.

Animals are in a better state than humans because they are content with overcoming death and don't need artificial goals to feel satisfied.

Artificial goals replaced our confrontation with death as we used to, therefore all the satisfaction that came with pursuing real goals.

Freedom does not mean the absence of suffering.

I agree we are slaves, but to technology, some people who are aware of our enslavement include themselves; they embrace it, "I am not joking," and some refuse it as myself.

If I offer you an elite lifestyle, if you accept it then you basically want reward without suffering "working". If you don't, then you need to justify your refusal.

I refuse it because I believe humans are disease due to their alienated nature, and either we need to transcend or go extinct.

 

[thewalkingdread]

I wish I had parents like me — an antinatalist— so I wouldn't be here in this pigsty...

 

[sserafim]

Because our parents fucked and we're the result

We are born here to be slaves in a prison and to suffer unnecessarily
We didn't even consent to being here

Literally. The thing I hate the most is that I didn't even have a choice. I couldn't consent to being brought into existence. This is inherently immoral and unjust. I was born because two people were selfish enough to impose life on me

I wish I had parents like me — an antinatalist— so I wouldn't be here in this pigsty...

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[ijustwishtodie]

Two people had sex. That's it really. There isn't any god or higher being who cares about humans or whatever. We're here because of natural processes that lead to life emerging on earth and then the life propagating itself until evolution can take place and... here we are