why are there so many incel threads on here?

[iwantdeath6969]

so many incels think they can't get laid because of "genetics", when in reality, it's because women don't want to be with misogynists, and a lot of incels are so sexist that women can pick up on it instantly. women aren't a hivemind who all want to date "gigachads", all of the girls i know have different types from each other and if you ever had a relationship with a woman that wasn't entirely based on you wanting to fuck her, you might know that. and if you ever went outside into the real world, you would see how almost hilariously common it is to see these beautiful women dating men who are the most boring, ugly, nothing looking men.

i see why so many incels are so suicidal, they all act like you're at the end of your life at 25, and think that every person in the world is against them, when really, they've all made up these rules themselves. no matter what you look like, you can be attractive to someone, because attraction is entirely subjective. there are a lot of celebrity men who are widely considered hot that i find really ugly. my last crush was on a guy who was fat, had glasses and facial hair, i think maybe a small bald spot even, and i'm almost never attracted to "gigachads".

why does this site hold space for so many of these threads? can't you just post this shit on an incel forum instead?

 

[brokeandbroken]

So I wouldn't regard anything I have posted to be incel related or even really adjacent.... That said Ill answer and people can correct me if wrong.

First and foremost, let's be honest this website is for people struggling immensely with life. It's literally for people who want to die. Meaning everyone here isn't at their best, second, best, or even average. You are seeing someone at their worst day(s). Some empathy needs to be given because of this.
Second I refuse to believe most incels label themselves it just because. My assumption is they do so because they have been told it for years and they just go if the virginity fits I myswell call myself it as well.
Third I also assume most saying it are probably autistic, borderline autistic, etc... This going to have a monumental impact on how they approach the world. 100 years ago people like this could more often survive, have a family, life was less complicated.
Fourth, i could make many and I am fine engaging in dialogue but the world is hypersexual now. 100 years ago you didn't know what you were missing out on. Today? It's all over. Movies, TV, peoples stories, etc... The FOMO is real.
Fifth, last one. Most incels I would wage aren't surrounded by legions of friends and just can't get laid. Instead I'd wager they have very few and probably zero friends. Society complained over and over about COVID and how they couldn't hang out with people. Yet some life didn't change. Life was normal because they had none. It's been their whole life. Society just LARPed their life for a couple months and then needed to get therapy. These same people not only that but have highly likely been bullied to the nth degree their whole lives. Society has bullied, abandoned them, and then expects them to be perfectly fine. If they aren't no one cares. They are undesirable. Incel should just rebrand themselves as "undesirables". Society has looked at them their whole lives and said point blank you have no value now go CTB we don't want anything to do with you.

-> I have see many threads on here saying that they are scared it will be shut down. That would imply that people are actively watching yet if so they are doing *nothing*. Proving my point further. In the TV show the fall there's a scene as the serial killer is videotaping himself torturing a victim where he says "Why the fuck are you watching this? You sick shit. What the fuck is wrong with you?". The scene is in season 2 episode 5 starting at roughly the 45 minute mark and his words at roughly the 49 minute mark. Unlike the tv show where the lady sheds tears for her no one is shedding tears for the abandoned in society. Society watches, mocks, forgets, and I think it is pretty fucked up to watch people suffer immensely and do nothing. I don't think victoria's secret models should descend from the heavens and suck my cock. But rather society should give a fuck about people. They don't and that's why you see it because they feel this as well and just can't communicate it well enough.

 

[CentreMid]

I'm not on any incel forums, so I can't speak about their rules and whatnot. Perhaps the incel forums don't like having such blatant suicide discussion (?). Speculation aside, SaSu is a place for those with suicide ideation to vent regardless of the situation, and sometimes that includes things we may not agree with. Hell, if I had a dollar for the number of times I encountered a thread that I found ridiculous, I'd be able to get out of my horrible financial situation (/j)! All joking aside, I do find it's best to just not engage, no matter how baffling I find the content of certain threads to be.

 

[iwantdeath6969]

So I wouldn't regard anything I have posted to be incel related or even really adjacent.... That said Ill answer and people can correct me if wrong.

First and foremost, let's be honest this website is for people struggling immensely with life. It's literally for people who want to die. Meaning everyone here isn't at their best, second, best, or even average. You are seeing someone at their worst day(s). Some empathy needs to be given because of this.
Second I refuse to believe most incels label themselves it just because. My assumption is they do so because they have been told it for years and they just go if the virginity fits I myswell call myself it as well.
Third I also assume most saying it are probably autistic, borderline autistic, etc... This going to have a monumental impact on how they approach the world. 100 years ago people like this could more often survive, have a family, life was less complicated.
Fourth, i could make many and I am fine engaging in dialogue but the world is hypersexual now. 100 years ago you didn't know what you were missing out on. Today? It's all over. Movies, TV, peoples stories, etc... The FOMO is real.
Fifth, last one. Most incels I would wage aren't surrounded by legions of friends and just can't get laid. Instead I'd wager they have very few and probably zero friends. Society complained over and over about COVID and how they couldn't hang out with people. Yet some life didn't change. Life was normal because they had none. It's been their whole life. Society just LARPed their life for a couple months and then needed to get therapy. These same people not only that but have highly likely been bullied to the nth degree their whole lives. Society has bullied, abandoned them, and then expects them to be perfectly fine. If they aren't no one cares. They are undesirable. Incel should just rebrand themselves as "undesirables". Society has looked at them their whole lives and said point blank you have no value now go CTB we don't want anything to do with you.

-> I have see many threads on here saying that they are scared it will be shut down. That would imply that people are actively watching yet if so they are doing *nothing*. Proving my point further. In the TV show the fall there's a scene as the serial killer is videotaping himself torturing a victim where he says "Why the fuck are you watching this? You sick shit. What the fuck is wrong with you?". I think society is pretty fucked up to watch people suffer immensely and do nothing. That doesn't mean victoria's secret models should descend from the heavens and suck my cock. But rather society should give a fuck about people. They don't and that's why you see it because they feel this as well and just can't communicate it well enough.

well to me, it's just hard to have empathy when most of them really aren't actual "undesireables", most of them are white, cis, straight men who grew up at least with a roof over their heads. there are so many people with so many real problems in the world, and i don't buy into that oppression olympics type of mindset, so obviously the fact that most people are far worse off than them doesn't make their problems feel any less real. but the problems that they're whining about literally don't exist. there are lots of women out there who would end up falling in love with them in normal, healthy ways if incels didn't surround themselves constantly with a mindset that's so ridiculously misogynistic that it would be almost funny if it hadn't gotten so many women killed. they're brainwashing themselves with a mindset that's not only sexist, but almost always racist as well (and i very rarely see them attracted to any women who aren't skinny blonde white women with huge tits) because a belief system based on rules and dynamics that are dictated by how you physically look that puts white, straight, fit, attractive people at the top will always be fucked up.

i can empathize with some of them individually, but i really can't empathize with the incel mindset. i can understand where you're coming from, and it really does hurt to feel like you'll never belong in the world, but people who are really into this shit are just so insane

I'm not on any incel forums, so I can't speak about their rules and whatnot. Perhaps the incel forums don't like having such blatant suicide discussion (?). Speculation aside, SaSu is a place for those with suicide ideation to vent regardless of the situation, and sometimes that includes things we may not agree with. Hell, if I had a dollar for the number of times I encountered a thread that I found ridiculous, I'd be able to get out of my horrible financial situation (/j)! All joking aside, I do find it's best to just not engage, no matter how baffling I find the content of certain threads to be.

i guess, i just see several incel threads with tons of engagement almost every time i log on. it's just getting annoying to see them so often. you're right though, i definitely see tons of other threads that are really dumb on here haha

 

[feder]

I actually haven't seen many, only 1 in 2 months being active here. So I don't know really. But I agree that if your whole personality is just "wamen bad" this maybe is not the place to post it. It's a different story when it's just included as a problem in a venting post though.

 

[iwantdeath6969]

I actually haven't seen many, only 1 in 2 months being active here. So I don't know really. But I agree that if your whole personality is just "wamen bad" this maybe is not the place to post it. It's a different story when it's just included as a problem in a venting post though.

i feel like i see them all the time, and yeah i know right, some of the posts aren't even about suicide. they're just whining about how women won't fuck them

 

[Vizzy]

This should be in off topic, why this is in suicide discussion!

 

[sulli]

maybe i'd qualify as a femcel now since it's been years since anyone's even touched me. tfw no gf
incels on here should join wizardchan instead methinks

 

[brokeandbroken]

well to me, it's just hard to have empathy when most of them really aren't actual "undesireables", most of them are white, cis, straight men who grew up at least with a roof over their heads. there are so many people with so many real problems in the world, and i don't buy into that oppression olympics type of mindset, so obviously the fact that most people are far worse off than them doesn't make their problems feel any less real. but the problems that they're whining about literally don't exist. there are lots of women out there who would end up falling in love with them in normal, healthy ways if incels didn't surround themselves constantly with a mindset that's so ridiculously misogynistic that it would be almost funny if it hadn't gotten so many women killed. they're brainwashing themselves with a mindset that's not only sexist, but almost always racist as well (and i very rarely see them attracted to any women who aren't skinny blonde white women with huge tits) because a belief system based on rules and dynamics that are dictated by how you physically look that puts white, straight, fit, attractive people at the top will always be fucked up.

i can empathize with some of them individually, but i really can't empathize with the incel mindset. i can understand where you're coming from, and it really does hurt to feel like you'll never belong in the world, but people who are really into this shit are just so insane

i guess, i just see several incel threads with tons of engagement almost every time i log on. it's just getting annoying to see them so often. you're right though, i definitely see tons of other threads that are really dumb on here haha

It's hard for me to respond to this in a way that won't put me into a box. If I responded and said you are wrong because of personal experience and XYZ. It's easy to say well you are just an incel for XYZ and then misogynistic for XYZ. Immediately throwing me out of the overton window of the discussion. When the reality is I under their problem I just haven't undertaken the extra step. Further, I think general society can be blamed further. You stated 25 I don't know the average age of the incel community but taking 25 as the age you gave and extrapolating further... How many years of porn has one consumed at that point? What's the tongue in cheek stat 9/10 men have watched porn and 1/10 are lying. 65% have watched porn in the last week and 92% in the last month (60/18% for women in case you are curious. The average age men watched porn for the first time by the way is 11 or 12. 15% under 10. Meaning by 25 likely a decade of porn has been consumed. Like I get one must be accountable for their own actions but since the age of 11 someone has been showed something repeatedly.... Can they really be accused of being misogynists when their experiences with women boil down to bad acting, depraved sexual acts, and whatever they hear from society? Sounds to me like there is a bigger problem then just *them*. You are also taking what I heavily assume to be men who are socially awkward, low social intelligence, and then blaming them for it. So on one hand you have someone who likely doesn't understand the social functioning of society, exposing them repeatedly to sexual acts that are unrealistic, isolating them, and the going okay now be normal. Add in years of bullying and whatever life factors they have.... They have been set up to fail.

Then think about this way how many of these men have had "good touch". Really truly how many of them even know what a good touch is or that it exists? The touch they've been exposed to is spanking/physical punishment, likely being hit by bullies, and doctor's. I was in medical school I can tell you despite being able to do it differently you are basically told to make it painful. You say they've brainwashed themselves... Have they? Or have they been brainwashed by society? Also, I don't know the stats regarding incels and murdering people but I'd wager it is an extremely low percentage. The irony being that may be one of the few people who cared for them instead of those who harmed them. So despite being exposed to likely violent acts from a young age, only knowing touch that is violent or at least uncomfortable, most *still* don't hurt anybody. You want to know what you are seeing. A small group of incels and the media pushing that narrative. Further bullying incels. Why because it's fucking fun for them to pick on virgins. You gave one of the reasons above... They are usually white, cis, and probably grew up middle class or above... Is there anything truly wrong with a white man being attracted to white women?

You know what really grinds my gears when discussing this topic. White men at least a good portion of them are suffering. And anytime one says it the knee-jerk reaction by society is basically you are white how bad can it be.... Where's a black girl to support... I went to college, I went to medical school (In Poland), where I was the victim of crimes and forced out illegally. I spent my life studying to become an oncologist to take people's cancer away, I donated to church, I never had so much as a speeding ticket... I took some of the hardest courses you could, have an undergrad degree (psychology), I was president of the oncology research group and was in it for 4 years.... When I came back to the US... The best job I could get despite over 150k in debt and years of schooling where I was literally at points in charge of someone's life... Making medical equipment for 22.78. Where I was constantly told I was stupid, retarted, dumb, etc... by co-workers, bosses, whatever. My job was basically putting a sticker on a bag. I studied my whole life including incredibly complex topics like biochemistry, anatomy, pharmacology, organic chemistry, a myriad of psych classes including neuro, and many others only for society to say you can play with stickers for a living in a temp job. All of that studying to play with stickers... For the record I cannot even get someone to talk to me about my legal case I can prove if you or anyone else PMs me I would be happy to. If it was a black girl she would have 17 lawyers, 8 congressman, 4 human rights advocates, a partridge and peartree, then a charted jet home. I'm white... I got a room at a homeless shelter. Because oh yeah white people don't have a community or support even one another I'm not sure you can anymore. So my family just abandoned me. Sorry I don't buy into this whole white people by and large have it better argument. Why because if it did I would be a doctor, have a lawyer, or a job that paid what I am worth.

As to me... I am a virgin. I don't know whether I am attractive or not for someone else to decide. What I do know is for most of my adult life I lived in the gym... Was in fantastic shape, was in college/medical school studying to take care of very sick people for a living, and I would like to think a decent person. I studied French in my spare time and I am well-traveled. I am not saying this to brag but rather to say I tried to be who I would want in a partner. I also did my best to talk to women who wouldn't give me the time of day. Did I have the expectation they'd sleep with me? No. Why? Because they are human beings. I also don't want to be with someone who doesn't want to be with me. For the record I also like small tits and brunettes :) The point of all of this is society is failing men particularly white men and incels are pathology of this. Not only are they being failed but they are also being told they don't matter, they don't have a voice, to shut up, suck it up, and then being bullied for it. Sorry I think that's wrong. I don't care who you are society is doing people dirty right now and needs to be held accountable. I don't care whether you are black, white, asian, mexican, whatever.. There is plenty to be mad whoever you are.

Lastly, you know who should be really fucking angry. Women. Because men are being failed and they are taking the punishment for it.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I guess because they are depressed and suicidal! I imagine if you felt like the whole world and especially the gender you wanted to attract hated you- it would make you unhappy.

If I'm honest- I struggle myself with such threads because they can sometimes come across as misogynistic. I can't help but agree with you that sometimes I also think the same- women won't give you a chance not because of how you look but because they can tell you resent them.

I expect that sounds harsh but I can say that if I'm honest- I don't particularly trust men. I think I share some of the same 'problem'. Not only am I not attractive enough- there are also major trust/ resentment issues there that would probably repel any kind of close relationship.

Why are they here though? I guess the same reason we all are- we have problems we either can't fix, don't know how to fix, or, don't want to put in the effort to fix and they're making us unhappy enough to want to end it.

 

[deathistheaesthetic]

so many incels think they can't get laid because of "genetics", when in reality, it's because women don't want to be with misogynists, and a lot of incels are so sexist that women can pick up on it instantly.

I'm sorry but this made me giggle, plenty of women end up with misogynists. People are complicated and sometimes they're attracted to problematic individual.

But yes I mostly agree with you lol

 

[iwantdeath6969]

I'm sorry but this made me giggle, plenty of women end up with misogynists. People are complicated and sometimes they're attracted to problematic individual.

But yes I mostly agree with you lol

ok well you are right, a lot of men aren't as blatant with their misogyny, and a lot of women end up with them. i guess i meant that most women don't want to date people who straight up tell them that they're lesser being or whatever

 

[SuicidalOrganism]

ive seen an overview of incel forums while i was scrolling thru reddit and tbh many incels in these forums are toxic racists and encourage eachother to kill themselves so ig it explains why some of them migrate here instead

 

[asian.neet]

Yeah it's pretty annoying
I stick to the partial hanging ctb threads so I steer clear of those threads most of the time

 

[NotDeanNorris]

so many incels think they can't get laid because of "genetics", when in reality, it's because women don't want to be with misogynists, and a lot of incels are so sexist that women can pick up on it instantly. women aren't a hivemind who all want to date "gigachads", all of the girls i know have different types from each other and if you ever had a relationship with a woman that wasn't entirely based on you wanting to fuck her, you might know that. and if you ever went outside into the real world, you would see how almost hilariously common it is to see these beautiful women dating men who are the most boring, ugly, nothing looking men.

i see why so many incels are so suicidal, they all act like you're at the end of your life at 25, and think that every person in the world is against them, when really, they've all made up these rules themselves. no matter what you look like, you can be attractive to someone, because attraction is entirely subjective. there are a lot of celebrity men who are widely considered hot that i find really ugly. my last crush was on a guy who was fat, had glasses and facial hair, i think maybe a small bald spot even, and i'm almost never attracted to "gigachads".

why does this site hold space for so many of these threads? can't you just post this shit on an incel forum instead?

I can't empathize with people who could just go on anonymous 4chan and be accepted. They refuse to acknowledge systemic oppression against women, and then actively contribute to the narrative that enables said oppression. It makes no sense.
"Why do women hate me? Must be some random physical trait instead of my personality."
idk maybe I have married privilege or something and I'm talking out my ass.

 

[Adûnâi]

because of "genetics", when in reality, it's because women don't want to be with misogynists, and a lot of incels are so sexist that women can pick up on it instantly

I consider myself a proud hateful incel, yet with the caveat that most incels hate me, too - because I'm a mentalcel (autistic), I don't believe I could have a relationship even having the cheekbones of a chad.

Your comment is insensitive in two ways:
1) ugly incels are invisible to females, thus can never even show their misogynistic ways;
2) mentalcels cannot even begin approaching females in the first place.

I'd like to get rejected, I'd like to try anything social, but I'm at a level of a 3 year old when it comes to this. I go to school, I return home - where do I get friends or anything? Where are the guides? Especially for the cultural mores of the Ukraine.