Why are some able to ctb while other cannot?

[Weebster]

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[Flying Away]

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Thats a very good question. Its not easy to answer. For some SI will kick in, for others its mistake, for others its discovery and for still others its just plain dumb luck. For some who survive it makes them fear trying again and yet for some like myself it just makes you more determined. Of course on occasion people make a half hearted attempt using it as a cry for help. As I said no easy answer to a very good question.

 

[FuneralCry]

Maybe some people do not get desperate enough to actually go through with it, ctb is very difficult after all, as we are programmed to survive. Also, some people have more access to methods than others, people may find it easier to go through with ctb if they can exit this world peacefully. Also some people may want to die, but are held here for certain reasons such as fear of death, fear of failure and fear of dying process. Other people may not have these fears.

 

[JamieJambo]

I wonder about this too. I think some have less fear and more motivation.

I personally have not got the commitment power to be able to do it. I keep pretending to do it, only to forgo it, but then I hope that of my pretend attempts might accidently result in the real deal.

I wonder if there are many others who pretend to partial hang and then they accidently pass out

 

[WorthlessTrash]

Some are able to overcome their SI, while others are not. Also, some are pushed beyond their breaking point, whereas others have not. Everyone has a threshold and everyone has a limit as to how much they can take.

 

[Niko66]

Everyone is capable of attempting to CTB. (Unless physically prevented from)

 

[Eternal Oblivion]

Very few fish will slip thro the net of survival instinct

 

[depressedmaniac]

Well society tells us "people make their own decisions. We are in controle." We are not though. Everything we do is determined by genitics and cirumstances. Nobody chooses to suffer right? Noone wants to be homesless or addicted to drugs or a rapist. We all just try to do what is best for us. And we have very little choice.
coming back to your Question: some ppl can and do commit suicide. some cant. I think that is all there is to it.

 

[Hyd999]

I made a similar post maybe 2 weeks ago and i have concluded we all have a breaking point. If pushed over this point then ctb is easy.

Many of us think we are at that point where its too unbearable and want to ctb. Reality is that not a single one of us has had a successful ctb. But when things get worse ctb will come more naturally i feel.

Since my last post i had my hopes go down so many times that i am honestly very close to ctb. I can feel it building in me with every rejection i get in life it makes this desire stronger. Kind of like building a muscle.

And what makes it worse if i feel so ungreatful. I feel like so many people in this form would love to trade lives with me. Because i own a very successful company that i grew out of nothing. Reality is it is pure luck that this gig worked out. I know nothing about business. Yet the business i created did over 4M in sales last year.

10 years i had no idea what the concept of a million was. But today im running a company that does 4M in sales. And my biggest problem why i want to ctb so bad is i cant find someone who wants to be with me for me. So im alone forever.

So lots of success at work. Im killing it, as the expression goes, and dont even know how. But ironicay the only thing i want to truley kill is myself.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Simply, because an individual's journey in getting to that point of ctb is as varied as the individuals who have already completed the trip. Just because I cannot ctb right now, doesn't mean I won't get there next week, next month, next year. The "places" we have to be in ourselves are individual to each of us.

 

[MrOptions]

Self preservations is always constantly fighting desperation.

 

[solisoccasus]

Not everyone has the tools to go, I was once desperate and believed then that i tried everything but unforunately, i'm still alive.

 

[AreWeWinning]

There was a presentation about this somewhere on youtube. Basically it's a combination of feeling of being a burden to others + loneliness + fearlessness of death, courage. There are all kinds of different factors and different cases, but these are shared by all of them, regardless of whether it's schizophrenia, depression, or whatever.

Then it is broken down more. Loneliness and being a burden to others, self hate, lack of reciprocal care, stuff like that. This creates hopelessness, and a desire to die, but this is not enough. The person needs lowered fear of death. Still not enough. The person needs increased pain tolerance and courage too to do the act. Some of these qualities are given, and some can be learned or acquired.

The presenter also suggests that in the majority of cases suicide victims are not under the influence of any substance. Even alcoholics quit 3-4 days before. It's a hard thing to do, and can't be done while being intoxicated.

 

[jimmy7754]

There was a presentation about this somewhere on youtube. Basically it's a combination of feeling of being a burden to others + loneliness + fearlessness of death, courage. There are all kinds of different factors and different cases, but these are shared by all of them, regardless of whether it's schizophrenia, depression, or whatever.

Then it is broken down more. Loneliness and being a burden to others, self hate, lack of reciprocal care, stuff like that. This creates hopelessness, and a desire to die, but this is not enough. The person needs lowered fear of death. Still not enough. The person needs increased pain tolerance and courage too to do the act. Some of these qualities are given, and some can be learned or acquired.

The presenter also suggests that in the majority of cases suicide victims are not under the influence of any substance. Even alcoholics quit 3-4 days before. It's a hard thing to do, and can't be done while being intoxicated.

Interesting