Venting Why are people like me forced to stay alive?

[ijustwishtodie]

I know that society forces people to stay alive because they need wage slaves to contribute to paying tax and so forth but why are they then keeping me alive? I don't have the ability to wage slave at all nor do I want to wage slave. I was thrust into this world against my consent so why am I even expected to enjoy life and enjoy work to begin with? It makes no sense to me. I never had any passions or interests with anything regarding to life so why... why am I forced to live by society? Why can't I be allowed to have access to euthanasia when I don't want to wage slave anyway?

 

[DEATH IS FREEDOM]

You are wrong. The only problem is that our society is in the absence of euthanasia. Death should be a human right. We are all going to die - so why prevent the inevitable death?

 

[ijustwishtodie]

You are wrong. The only problem is that our society is in the absence of euthanasia. Death should be a human right. We are all going to die - so why prevent the inevitable death?

How am I wrong? I agree with everything that you said. I believe that we should all be eligible for euthanasia as we didn't consent to be here hence we should have a say in when we can leave. It's horrifying to suffer pointlessly for decades when death is inevitable anyway. I'm just pointing out society's hypocrisy in rejecting euthanasia because they want people to wage slave but also simultaneously keeping people alive who don't have the ability to wage slave or don't want to wage slave

 

[OCDsufferer]

The reasons why you are kept alive (why euthanasia is illegal; sucicide frowned up) depend very much on the person you talking to/culture (or religion) you live under. Most people do not want you alive to be a wage slave. Some people just do not understand suicide (either because they are afraid of death or because they've never been truly sad), others believe it is a sin, and there's many people that pity people like us or feel some sort of empathy so they just want to keep you alive because they believe we can get better. Not to menion friends and family that want us live because they care for us, or because us killing ourselves would be a burden to them (such as being blamed for our deaths). Etc etc.

 

[Time4Peace]

Ppl kill each other either using force or words. Don't expect any understanding from egoistic entities.

 

[sserafim]

I guess because of societal reasons (stemming from religion). Most countries are Christian and view life as a "gift" and "sacred". The Western world was built upon Christianity. It's an undeniable fact, even though I hate Christianity. People believe that all life is inherently valuable. They view life as the ultimate good, juxtaposed with death as the ultimate evil. Countries don't want their citizens to ctb because then it would look bad for them. In a world where life is prized, valued and put on a pedestal, people going off and dying would stain and tarnish the image of the country. Countries want to maintain the most positive reputation and image possible

 

[random_user]

My guess is that it's easier for society to call people insane or something similar rather than admitting that for some people, the wish to achieve nonexistence is a valid and sensible result of their individual circumstances.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

The reasons why you are kept alive (why euthanasia is illegal; sucicide frowned up) depend very much on the person you talking to/culture (or religion) you live under. Most people do not want you alive to be a wage slave. Some people just do not understand suicide (either because they are afraid of death or because they've never been truly sad), others believe it is a sin, and there's many people that pity people like us or feel some sort of empathy so they just want to keep you alive because they believe we can get better. Not to menion friends and family that want us live because they care for us, or because us killing ourselves would be a burden to them (such as being blamed for our deaths). Etc etc.

It unfortunately seems like society's minds are just too primitive to understand these kinds of topics as of right now. I think that truly is unfortunate because technology and knowledge has advanced enough to where we can peacefully kill ourselves yet we aren't allowed to do so. I truly hope that euthanasia becomes legal for any adult one day but I feel like perhaps it'd take a millennium for such a thing to come into fruition

 

[Red Moon]

Yup for me I don't pass society to be wage slaving nor do I want to. I'm also wondering why the government and society wants to keep me alive. This country where I'm from is pro life though.

 

[Time4Peace]

I guess because of societal reasons (stemming from religion). Most countries are Christian and view life as a "gift" and "sacred". The Western world was built upon Christianity. It's an undeniable fact, even though I hate Christianity. People believe that all life is inherently valuable. They view life as the ultimate good, juxtaposed with death as the ultimate evil

Existence is suffering, literally survival of the fittest. Including their own children who go and cause pain to others. But yeah, go figure how these ppl have no hearts. No wonder I want to gtfo of here.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I guess because of societal reasons (stemming from religion). Most countries are Christian and view life as a "gift" and "sacred". The Western world was built upon Christianity. It's an undeniable fact, even though I hate Christianity. People believe that all life is inherently valuable. They view life as the ultimate good, juxtaposed with death as the ultimate evil

I hate all religions. If there were two ways in which I can change the world, the first would be to grant every human access to euthanasia and the second would be to eradicate all religions forever. Religions has been nothing but an ego boost for the masses

 

[sserafim]

I hate all religions. If there were two ways in which I can change the world, the first would be to grant every human access to euthanasia and the second would be to eradicate all religions forever. Religions has been nothing but an ego boost for the masses

In my opinion, religion is more a form of control and brainwashing rather an ego boost. Religion is just a tool used to control people. It's the opium of the masses

 

[Red Moon]

I guess because of societal reasons (stemming from religion). Most countries are Christian and view life as a "gift" and "sacred". The Western world was built upon Christianity. It's an undeniable fact, even though I hate Christianity. People believe that all life is inherently valuable. They view life as the ultimate good, juxtaposed with death as the ultimate evil. Countries don't want their citizens to ctb because then it would look bad for them. In a world where life is prized, valued and put on a pedestal, people going off and dying would stain and tarnish the image of the country. Countries want to maintain the most positive reputation and image possible

You might be right. I'm from a Christian country.

 

[sserafim]

Yup for me I don't pass society to be wage slaving nor do I want to. I'm also wondering why the government and society wants to keep me alive. This country where I'm from is pro life though.

I think it's because of economic benefit. If you're alive, the government and society still make money off of you. People still consume, even if they don't work. Even if it's not you buying the resources or spending your money on them, they still need to be bought for you. Therefore, there's increased consumption. As long as you're alive, you will inevitably consume. A person alive is one more consumer. There are also potential ways to profit off of you. You're more valuable to society alive than dead. Only dead men pay no taxes.

 

[UKscotty]

Society doesn't force us to stay alive, that's a myth our brain tricks us into thinking.

Governments and society would rather us be dead unless we are contributing to the system. Most of us with depression are a nett drain rather than productive.

 

[Time4Peace]

There's love and there's a system of control. Love is transparent and seamless, like innocent children in heaven. No lies, manipulations, hierarchism, etc.

 

[OCDsufferer]

It unfortunately seems like society's minds are just too primitive to understand these kinds of topics as of right now. I think that truly is unfortunate because technology and knowledge has advanced enough to where we can peacefully kill ourselves yet we aren't allowed to do so. I truly hope that euthanasia becomes legal for any adult one day but I feel like perhaps it'd take a millennium for such a thing to come into fruition

I do not think that to be true after all it could very well become worse. Out of nowhere a new culture, idea, religion etc could slowly grow and make people completely antipathetical towards suicide. Especially because we aren't too primitive to understand suicide because that doesn't make sense, primitively suicide was more quickly accepted and because things like "honor suicide" are still accepted in many cultures within islam or were accepted such as in Japan. Suicide is too vague a topic for us to discuss it claiming whatever we think to be a worldwide belief.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

In my opinion, religion is more a form of control and brainwashing rather an ego boost. Religion is just a tool used to control people. It's the opium of the masses

I think it's both control and an ego boost. Many humans seem to love the idea of an omnipotent god caring about them and specifically them. All of the rules that god has made is specifically for humans. Judgement day is specifically for humans. I'm not sure about christianity but the religion that my parents believe in are full of people who love the idea of a god caring enough about them specifically to fulfil their wishes (I think that christians act this way too tbh)

 

[DEATH IS FREEDOM]

How am I wrong? I agree with everything that you said. I believe that we should all be eligible for euthanasia as we didn't consent to be here hence we should have a say in when we can leave. It's horrifying to suffer pointlessly for decades when death is inevitable anyway. I'm just pointing out society's hypocrisy in rejecting euthanasia because they want people to wage slave but also simWultaneously keeping people alive who don't have the ability to wage slave or don't want to wage slave

Civilization is the wrong way to live. We belong in nature. In nature, people and animals die young and quickly. Civilization creates the need for euthanasia. Humans should have the same right to euthanasia as pets. Humans should not be treated worse than pets.

 

[sserafim]

I think it's both control and an ego boost. Many humans seem to love the idea of an omnipotent god caring about them and specifically them. All of the rules that god has made is specifically for humans. Judgement day is specifically for humans. I'm not sure about christianity but the religion that my parents believe in are full of people who love the idea of a god caring enough about them specifically to fulfil their wishes (I think that christians act this way too tbh)

Humans created God in their image, rather than vice versa. I agree that humans are very prideful to create a creator that supposedly cares about them. It comes off across as narcissistic in my opinion. No offense, but I don't believe that humans are special. Instead, I view them as an abomination of nature

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I think it's because of economic benefit. If you're alive, the government and society still make money off of you. People still consume, even if they don't work. Even if it's not you buying the resources or spending your money on them, they still need to be bought for you. Therefore, there's increased consumption. As long as you're alive, you will inevitably consume. A person alive is one more consumer. There are also potential ways to profit off of you. You're more valuable to society alive than dead. Only dead men pay no taxes.

I didn't think about it like this. This is probably why I'm better off alive than dead to the government because they still can profit off of me even if I don't want to wage slave.

I do not think that to be true after all it could very well become worse. Out of nowhere a new culture, idea, religion etc could slowly grow and make people completely antipathetical towards suicide. Especially because we aren't too primitive to understand suicide because that doesn't make sense, primitively suicide was more quickly accepted and because things like "honor suicide" are still accepted in many cultures within islam or were accepted such as in Japan. Suicide is too vague a topic for us to discuss it claiming whatever we think to be a worldwide belief.

I hope that no such culture grows because that would be absolutely terrifying. I think that people deserve to have access to euthanasia

 

[OCDsufferer]

I hope that no such culture grows because that would be absolutely terrifying. I think that people deserve to have access to euthanasia

I agree. Let us hope for a better future.

 

[Todsünde]

I'm pretty sure there are many ways out of society and your way out of wage slaving.
I've been homeless for the past 3 years and I've been walking around the world a little bit and while doing so I've witnessed many people being fed up with society. They may not struggle to the extend most of us here do but enough that they want to leave all of this shit behind.
I'm sure if you want to find your way out if wage slaving you can do so. Does it mean you won't have to work? Absolutely not since truly working for what u need to survive is a lot harder than the things western society created and out there aren't rly grocery shops. But for me this kind of work feels very different to the stuff I would be working as in my home country.
Depending if you live in a rich country you can also survive of the stuff people throw away. I've spend months without a single cent in Europe by dumpster diving. Wasn't that easy since sometimes I didn't eat for days but at the same time it wasn't too bad because after finding food and sitting at the beach in Italy you forget all the shit from b4.
Also there are many communitys building smth for themselves while not wanting to participate in capitalism.
If you rly wanna get out of society and live your own life I'm sure you can do it and I wish you the very best no matter which path you'll go.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Civilization is the wrong way to live. We belong in nature. In nature, people and animals die young and quickly. Civilization creates the need for euthanasia. Humans should have the same right to euthanasia as pets. Humans should not be treated worse than pets.

I think that nature is far more brutal than our civilisation but, regardless, I do think that humans should at least have the same rights as pets, if not more. We should be allowed euthanasia but sadly society is too indoctrinated by religion to see this. Religion is truly the worst thing humanity has invented.

Humans created God in their image, rather than vice versa. I agree that humans are very prideful to create a creator that supposedly cares about them. It comes off across as narcissistic in my opinion. No offense, but I don't believe that humans are special. Instead, I view them as an abomination of nature

I agree. It is narcissistic and that's exactly why religion appeals to so many people. God doesn't actually exist but people like to think otherwise. Humans truly aren't special and never will be

 

[LevUwU]

"My life is pretty painful, I don't want to live anymore."

"Have you tried therapy? Meds?"

"I have"

"W-Well they take time!!1!"

"It's been years, I'm still in so much pain, can I please die?"

"No!1!"

"Why not?"

"B-because- YOU JUST CANT OKAY- We need wage slaves!!1! THE ECONOMY!!! YOUR PARENTTSSSS!!!!!"

"-.-;"

Pro-lifers could never understand the concept of a life that cannot get better

 

[Jorms_McGander]

The reasons why you are kept alive (why euthanasia is illegal; sucicide frowned up) depend very much on the person you talking to/culture (or religion) you live under. Most people do not want you alive to be a wage slave. Some people just do not understand suicide (either because they are afraid of death or because they've never been truly sad), others believe it is a sin, and there's many people that pity people like us or feel some sort of empathy so they just want to keep you alive because they believe we can get better. Not to menion friends and family that want us live because they care for us, or because us killing ourselves would be a burden to them (such as being blamed for our deaths). Etc etc.

Haha I outed an emotional abuser in my extended family and he hit back "what if you blame me when you kill yourself what will I do"

What a narcissist piece of shit. Yea what if ya cunt, another puny human unable to cope with his emotional reality among many isn't particularly noteworthy to me. But I suppose I'll write a quick hello in my introduction just to make my ghost laugh at his dumb ass thinking how he's influenced a single other ape on earth to do anything.

I hate normies more than anything else on Earth. The amount of harm they do because they never had to stop and reflect on their instincts... The guy is literally an abuser and it's just human instinct at work.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

"My life is pretty painful, I don't want to live anymore."

"Have you tried therapy? Meds?"

"I have"

"W-Well they take time!!1!"

"It's been years, I'm still in so much pain, can I please die?"

"No!1!"

"Why not?"

"B-because- YOU JUST CANT OKAY- We need wage slaves!!1! THE ECONOMY!!! YOUR PARENTTSSSS!!!!!"

"-.-;"

Pro-lifers could never understand the concept of a life that cannot get better

I absolutely agree with your last part. Thankfully this site understands but I wish that everybody else understood too. Some lives just aren't ever worth living and never will be. Some people just aren't meant to be a human. It's unfortunate but, then again, life is unfortunate

 

[Timothy7dff]

There's evil people in the world. They celebrate when people are in pain. If people improve their lives, they'll knock them back down. They consume pain like we consume food. Our pain sustains their existence.

 

[Red Moon]

I think it's because of economic benefit. If you're alive, the government and society still make money off of you. People still consume, even if they don't work. Even if it's not you buying the resources or spending your money on them, they still need to be bought for you. Therefore, there's increased consumption. As long as you're alive, you will inevitably consume. A person alive is one more consumer. There are also potential ways to profit off of you. You're more valuable to society alive than dead. Only dead men pay no taxes.

I suppose about the consumption and that everything that you buy still goes back to the government and economy even if it's a small amount I think.

 

[LevUwU]

I absolutely agree with your last part. Thankfully this site understands but I wish that everybody else understood too. Some lives just aren't ever worth living and never will be. Some people just aren't meant to be a human. It's unfortunate but, then again, life is unfortunate

I feel you there, my life literally cannot get better, and no one seems to understand that. I see you a lot on here, you seem pretty nice. Sending you love through all the pain regardless <3