Why are more people not using the fentanyl as a method?

[searchingforpeace]

Is it hard to get?

 

[DepressedChemMajor]

Yeah, lack of availablity. It is a narcotic drug afterall, not everyone has access to it sadly :(

 

[hikikomorizombie]

yeah, lack of access :// if i could i'd want to od on heroin as my ctb method.

 

[4g1vvvven]

I couldn't even find an F source from my country on the larger DNMs

 

[Himeasa]

You'll require an extensive installation to buy fentanyl, ranging from safety and anonymity protocols to finding the right sellers on the right places. Some are honeypots, some are scammers. This can take days. It's a high entry-barrier and since CTB is most often an impulse decision, the fewest surmount it.

 

[Darkover]

there's nobody on the dark web selling F in my country uk england and none of the street dealers i know sell it

 

[searchingforpeace]

I don't get it how are so many people dying of it then?

 

[UKscotty]

A lot of the deaths are accidental I suspect.

As others have said its a high bar to entry, you need to find a local dealer or get onto the dark markets to find a seller. When someone is under mental duress that is not easy. Most people don't have many friends and contacts to ask.

There have been a lot of deaths here in the UK due to fentanyl, probably flooding in from China.

 

[Meteora]

In my country its almost impossible to get.

 

[DreamEnd]

there's nobody on the dark web selling F in my country uk england and none of the street dealers i know sell it

There are sellers that ship worldwide. Pm me if you wanna know details

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

Is it hard to get?

I don't get it how are so many people dying of it then?

It wasn't as hard to get until a few years ago when the prolifers had the best sources shut down.
It was expensive but atainable. Now SN is almost unatainable also.
As was already mentioned, most Fentynal deaths now are overdoses. Some may be intentional.

 

[Meditation guide]

Apparently fentanyl must be coming into the U.S. through Mexico as far as I can tell from news reports because the deaths are continuing here. I'm not sure of the current situation but until recently I was reading about it as an ongoing problem.

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

Apparently fentanyl must be coming into the U.S. through Mexico as far as I can tell from news reports because the deaths are continuing here. I'm not sure of the current situation but until recently I was reading about it as an ongoing problem.

I must have been confused. I was thinking that N was similar to fentynal. I know drug cartels and dealers are are cutting fentynal with other drugs because it's cheap. One more thing thing I'm an idiot about.

 

[Black Sheep One]

It is hard to get. I am going to need a drug dealer to get it. Once one has a source, how good is it? How much is needed? Are the pills from dealer A the same as dealer B, or C? To many hard to answer questions. Questions that are suspicious to ask.

 

[rozeske]

Inaccessible for people without preexisting dealers.
Purity hard to come by as mostly concentration is disturbed by contamination with other drugs.
Unreliable for people with tolerance to opioids.
Ideal administration is intravenous injection which is not easy for everyone.

 

[dysthymia]

Yes, the best bet would be to buy heroin or oxy off the DNMs and hope it's laced with fent. I need to find a way to buy fentanyl off a anesthesiologist. It's not really controlled in my country per-say but you can't buy it at pharmacy, you have to order it from a supplier and only anesthesiologists can do it. I think I can buy fent patches from a pharmacy but not fent citrate (The stuff used for anesthesia). No one uses fent recreationally here so it shouldn't be THAT hard to get. Also we dont have naloxone here so if I get found, they probably can't save me.

 

[mortuarymary]

Yes, the best bet would be to buy heroin or oxy off the DNMs and hope it's laced with fent. I need to find a way to buy fentanyl off an anesthesiologist. It's not really controlled in my country per-say but you can't buy it at pharmacy, you have to order it from a supplier and only anesthesiologists can do it. I think I can buy fent patches from a pharmacy but not fent citrate (The stuff used for anesthesia). No one uses fent recreationally here so it shouldn't be THAT hard to get. Also we dont have naloxone here so if I get found, they probably can't save me.

Can't you OD on patches?

 

[dysthymia]

Can't you OD on patches?

Yes, you can, but I prefer fentanyl citrate because it's much easier to OD on it. Also i'm not sure if I can get the patches from a pharmacy but I'll see if I can. It's my main method right now.

 

[mortuarymary]

Yes, you can, but I prefer fentanyl citrate because it's much easier to OD on it. Also i'm not sure if I can get the patches from a pharmacy but I'll see if I can. It's my main method right now.

I was very curious. I remember throw loads away when my brother died of cancer.

 

[Morpho]

I wouldn't know how to get fentanyl

 

[Kasumi]

You'll require an extensive installation to buy fentanyl, ranging from safety and anonymity protocols to finding the right sellers on the right places. Some are honeypots, some are scammers. This can take days. It's a high entry-barrier and since CTB is most often an impulse decision, the fewest surmount it.

Suicide is usually not an impulsive decision, taking days or weeks to prepare is normal with most methods, the problem with fent is availability, it's banned from many dark net marketplaces, but most people don't want to get involved in those anyway, you have to consider the legal status as well.
Fent is highly illegal so you're putting yourself at a risk, while the more popular methods are usually not illegal at all.

 

[Himeasa]

Suicide is usually not an impulsive decision, taking days or weeks to prepare is normal with most methods, the problem with fent is availability, it's banned from many dark net marketplaces, but most people don't want to get involved in those anyway, you have to consider the legal status as well.
Fent is highly illegal so you're putting yourself at a risk, while the more popular methods are usually not illegal at all.

I checked some secondary literature and this is true so I stand corrected. I thought I'd read somewhere that more than half of suicides were impulse decisions.

 

[leavingthesoultrap]

Lack of access. And I am not sure if it is very reliable either.

 

[Darkover]

There are sellers that ship worldwide.

i know but it would have to go through custom to get to me thats why i haven't order from overseas

 

[nembutal]

you just need knowledge of the dark w3b lol…

 

[Kasumi]

I checked some secondary literature and this is true so I stand corrected. I thought I'd read somewhere that more than half of suicides were impulse decisions.

That's what media likes to tell after all, "we all ctb impulsively as such we shouldnt be allowed to".
It's true that there are suicide attempts that are made impulsively, but those aren't the ones doing their research and wanting to make sure they die 100%.
It's usually young people trying to do something to cope or get help or attention that overdose on their AD's and similar things.
People that come here searching for a reliable method are for the most part serious about dying, have thought about that for a long long time and as such don't mind preparing for a few weeks if that means they can reliably ctb.

 

[rotciv]

Some of the Benzimidazole opioids are still legal and you can buy it on the clear web, some more potent than fentanyl.

Please guys, less misinformation!

 

[itsover090]

Alguns dos opioides do Benzimidazol ainda são legais e você pode comprá-los na web, alguns mais potentes que o fentanil.

Por favor pessoal, menos desinformação!

Can explain?

 

[Ernest1964]

IT seems to me that because it is difficult to get it is also unreliable. How much do you get to CTB? Most all of the deaths from Fent. are accidental. What if you take a dose and it is too little to CTB, but big enough to get you hooked? Now you're an addict and that might be worse than the current situation that is your life now.

 

[leloyon]

I think people here prefer the "less shady" stuff, for example buying SN off the clearweb, although technically N is also an illegal drug it's so forgotten that a lot of people overlook that. In any case, I think having to buy these things in an overtly illegal way (either DNMs or street dealers) turns a lot of people off.
Coupled with the fact that most people don't market their fentanyl as fentanyl.
Though I don't see what the big deal is, just get over your fear of DNMs and go buy some heroin or oxy off them, they might be laced with fent and even if they're not and they are in fact the substances they claim to be, heroin and oxy and plenty lethal as it is.