Who tf needs sodium nitrite

[fieryending]

Sodium nitrite is just salt. I could probably injest 30 grams of table salt (probably parachute it) and then die that way. Isn't the lethal dose of salt 3g/kg? If so I only need 25grams of salt to die. Thats only a few tablespoons or so right?

 

[EndItQuickly]

Is this an out of season April fools joke?

 

[ThingWithFeathers]

There are hundreds of salt. When an acid and a base react, they produce salt. Not all salts have toxic effects. 25 grams of table salt will not kill a person unless the person has some very severe cardiovascular or related medical condition.

The lethal dose of table salt is 3gm per kg of human body weight. So if your body weight is 8-9 kg then maybe table salt can kill you.

 

[fieryending]

I bet 222 grams would kill me. Antiemetics needed to obviously, but my point is that sodium nitrite is just fancy salt. People cure meat with it but they could also just use normal salt. NaNO2 or NaCl, they both have sodium. I just wanna die right now. This isn't a joke.

 

[Skyview]

Sodium nitrite is just salt. I could probably injest 30 grams of table salt (probably parachute it) and then die that way. Isn't the lethal dose of salt 3g/kg? If so I only need 25grams of salt to die. Thats only a few tablespoons or so right?

Table Salt is sodium chloride , completely different to nitrite !

 

[noctiva]

Math and science time:
Table salt is sodium chloride (NaCl). NaCl LD50 is 3g/kg.
So 25 g implies you weigh 8.3 kg.
So let's be realistic here, let's say you're a 70 kg human, then you need 3*70g= 210 g NaCl, for LD50, meaning 50%of a population die from this amount, 50% of the population survive this amount.

Now for the fun of it: iirc you need ~5g NaNO2 for a 70 kg human LD50.
We take 25g, that's how many % more than the LD50 to be sure?
So in this case, you'd need to ingest more than 1 kg NaCl to get the effect and the safety margin overdose that equates the 'fancy salt'.

 

[ThingWithFeathers]

I bet 222 grams would kill me. Antiemetics needed to obviously, but my point is that sodium nitrite is just fancy salt. People cure meat with it but they could also just use normal salt. NaNO2 or NaCl, they both have sodium. I just wanna die right now. This isn't a joke.

Yes, dying or attempt to die isn't a joke. Just because they both have sodium doesn't mean they have same or similar chemical properties. Water has oxygen, carbon dioxide has oxygen too, but water and carbon dioxide are totally different in chemical nature.

Also, even antiemetics would fail if you try to ingest 222 grams of table salt. You would be very very sick. If it was that easy to die from table salt, it wouldn't be the most common ingredient in the recipes.

 

[Skyview]

Median lethal dose of table salt is apparently 3g/kg of body weight in rats. This means 50% of rats ingesting the same amount die.
This is usually a good guideline for humans.
An average 80kg male would need 240g of salt in one sitting to have a 50%ish chance of dying.
In order to further reduce the chance to survive, ingest more salt

 

[fieryending]

it isn't easy to die from a normal food dose. A lethal dose can and will kill you.
One can of morton has 700grams of salt. If you got that in your stomach and didn't puke you would die

 

[Jean4]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/stans-guide-to-sn.27535/

 

[noctiva]

it isn't easy to die from a normal food dose. A lethal dose can and will kill you.
One can of morton has 700grams of salt. If you got that in your stomach and didn't puke you would die

A lethal dose of anything can and will kill you, that is the definition of a lethal dose.
The problem is to ingest enough, and keep it in long enough. And, preferably, to not be in pain, to not have to ingest vast quantities in insane time frames and to have some peace in the final moments.

Edit: Cause of death would be different between the 2 salts, too.
NaNO2 causes methemoglobin, described as peaceful.
NaCl causes hypernatremia, and the side effects are not pretty..

 

[MeltingHeart]

Math and science time:
Table salt is sodium chloride (NaCl). NaCl LD50 is 3g/kg.
So 25 g implies you weigh 8.3 kg.
So let's be realistic here, let's say you're a 70 kg human, then you need 3*70g= 210 g NaCl, for LD50, meaning 50%of a population die from this amount, 50% of the population survive this amount.

Now for the fun of it: iirc you need ~5g NaNO2 for a 70 kg human LD50.
We take 25g, that's how many % more than the LD50 to be sure?
So in this case, you'd need to ingest more than 1 kg NaCl to get the effect and the safety margin overdose that equates the 'fancy salt'.

Wow that is some good calculations right there.

 

[Guizin239]

Is this a joke or?

 

[MeltingHeart]

I did here about that kid who drank a bottle of soya sauce for a dare & ended up in a coma, he nearly died but didn't & symptoms sounded horrible!

 

[k75]

The sodium in a quart+ of soy sauce can put you in a coma and presumably kill you without intervention, but that doesn't make this topic any less dumb. Both are sodiums, but it's apples to oranges.

 

[Lethe]

You could try this, if the prospect of excruciating pain sounds good to you.

 

[BPD_LE]

 

[Meant2Die]

"Fancy salt".. I can't stop laughing.

Listen , on the odd chance you haven't been around here and don't understand how Sn works,, I'll do my due diligence and present you with the following ; the reason Sn works is bc it causes Methemoglobinemia which, in simple terms, means it causes the oxygen transport system in your cells to fail causing lower levels of oxygen in your entire body and Brain so you get the side effects such as drowsiness, headaches, fatigue, etc, etc... ending in death. No oxygen = body can't function and shuts down.

Normal salt does not do this. Do your research, pls, otherwise you'll end really hurting yourself and that's absolutely it.

 

[6ixxy]

Not sure if troll or not¿?

 

[Blue Moon]

;

 

[Brick In The Wall]

Math and science time:
Table salt is sodium chloride (NaCl). NaCl LD50 is 3g/kg.
So 25 g implies you weigh 8.3 kg.
So let's be realistic here, let's say you're a 70 kg human, then you need 3*70g= 210 g NaCl, for LD50, meaning 50%of a population die from this amount, 50% of the population survive this amount.

Now for the fun of it: iirc you need ~5g NaNO2 for a 70 kg human LD50.
We take 25g, that's how many % more than the LD50 to be sure?
So in this case, you'd need to ingest more than 1 kg NaCl to get the effect and the safety margin overdose that equates the 'fancy salt'.

Thanks for atleast teaching us something! If this thread was serious it's kinda sad. If it wasn't serious it was atleast a good little laugh.

 

[Soul]

If this thread was serious it's kinda sad. If it wasn't serious it was atleast a good little laugh.

A reasonable alternative?

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/putting-head-in-microwave.13233/post-263730

 

[Brick In The Wall]

A reasonable alternative?

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/putting-head-in-microwave.13233/post-263730

Oh nicely done! Again I dunno whether to laugh or cry. I think I'll go with laugh on that one though. I wouldn't put it past people to try anything these days. Hence the million warning labels on everything.

 

[BPD_LE]

A reasonable alternative?

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/putting-head-in-microwave.13233/post-263730

I've found footage of a successful attempt

 

[Lethe]

Oh, there was that person a while back who wanted to hang themselves with their iPhone charging cord as well. That might be worth looking at.

 

[BPD_LE]

Oh, there was that person a while back who wanted to hang themselves with their iPhone charging cord as well. That might be worth looking at.

Yep, found him

 

[ThingWithFeathers]

Guys, guys! Please pay attention to what the OP wrote in his post:

OP thinks he could INJEST 30 gm table salt and die. He said this IN JEST.

Devil is in details!

Now I get it!

 

[jgm63]

@fieryending
Just re-iterating what others have said....
I would do some research first.
Have you done some internet searching on people OD-ing using regular salt ?
If not, then perhaps try doing that first....
Also, try finding out what the properties of SN are, and see if regular salt has those same properties....

It's best to post a thread after having done some initial research work yourself, rather than just posting ideas that haven't had any checking done....

If sodium chloride is not listed in any of the well known "self deliverance" books / websites, then perhaps it's not a great method for various reasons....

 

[Soul]

I've found footage of a successful attempt

View attachment 21559

Ah but see @BPD_LE my dear, *my* guy was preparing to cut a hole in the bottom and wear the microwave as a as a as a helmet of death! I think that's special.

 

[fieryending]

Thanks for atleast teaching us something! If this thread was serious it's kinda sad. If it wasn't serious it was atleast a good little laugh.

I apologize for being serious. just trying to find an easier to get method