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Praestat_Mori

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In part asking because I need some Ideas for a uni writing project but also simply curious. Give me what you think the appropriate perameters for acceptable suicide should be. Do we limit it from people with mental health struggles or..?
Anyone (18+) who wants to die for their personal reasons should be granted euthanasia. SI is the best protection even if there's access to medically assisted suicide.

Currently, it's the fact that people have to be almost dead to have a chance to be eligible for euthasia in countries where it is legal.
 
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There are also some euthenasia stories in dutch, which you can pull through the translator I can share in a DM if you want.
For each story i want one bottle of N /sarcasm

If you would send those i'd totally appreciate it!
ill see what i can do but i hope ur in the us i can only afford domestic /j

Currently, it's the fact that people have to be almost dead to have a chance to be eligible for euthasia in countries where it is legal.

I bring this up everytime someone says "exhaust all other options if theyre under 25" how many options do we exhaust before they off themselves on their own in secret-
 
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ForeverLonely82

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Dec 22, 2021
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I believe it should be available to anyone who wants it. We need to get rid of the whole "life is precious" mindset because it isn't. Sometimes we are far too disabled to enjoy life be it physical or mental. Waking up everyday is meaningless. It's just going through the motions, not liked by anyone and in pain in the body. Just lonely and suffering. Why should be forced to hang around and find methods that are not sure fire and can live you worse off before attempting. I get it, Life's not fair, but the way things have become it's NOT for everyone. Forced to live expections of others will leave you more empty and in ruin, Living while in pain in the body takes away any sort of joy one can possibly have. People have NO humanity these days, This is the loneliest time in human history. Sure, you may say I have friends or a lover. GOOD FOR YOU!....but you'll lose it all one day. so...to end my little rant due to my never ending depressive state... It should be available to ALL people who had enough, can't cope or deal with this world that changed for the WORSE. Some people are too old, tired, fed up, just exist instead of live, those who simply are done, but if you tell anyone these things the they want you in therapy, put you in a 72 hour hold and the trickle of things that suffice will be stripped from you (video games, vaping,drinking....all of it) put on mind bending pills to help cope and can't take strong pain killers anymore due to regulations ruining it for those who don't abuse them because people are stupid and once again RUIN everything. Some us are sick dogs and just want it to stop. Euthanasia should be available, without question. We have no peace here, might as well get it in death.
 
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livershapedbox

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Dec 28, 2024
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On principle I think anyone for any reason should have the right to end their life, but since euthanasia involves the assistance of other people, it's fine for those people to refuse to assist with it when they don't think it's the logical choice, that's their right.
I think "impossible to fix or bear" is a requirement that makes sense for providers to have, the way to measure this would be simple, a history of attempts at fixing the issue or making it bearable that had no results, everything was already tried and didn't work
 
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Praestat_Mori

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I bring this up everytime someone says "exhaust all other options if theyre under 25" how many options do we exhaust before they off themselves on their own in secret-
That is a good question. I think we should ask it in different way. Why do children, teens and young people become suicidal at all? There're not always health issues. In most cases there are external circumstances that make this group of people suicidal and nobody ever becomes suicidal from one minute to another minute - that is a long process! The longer people are suicidal and their circumstances make them more suicidal the more difficult it is to treat or even heal them. People with genetic defects probably have a 0-chance to be healed bc we can't "fix" their genes.

It's highly complex and there is not a simple to answer to it. The best way would be prevent young people from becoming suicidal at all but this is impossible bc nobody has control of the family they were born into.

People who have decided to kill themselves and are actively planning often exhausted all their options. The major question is: "What must happen in your life to reconsider your decision?" Meds, therapy and all that often can't eliminate the triggers or circumstances - they're often just coping mechanisms but not a cure to the actual problem. Example if someone is suicidal due to heavy abuse during their childhood then how can this trauma be fixed? With meds? With therapy where they're told "try to forget about it it's over do this and that technique?" That would indeed need a format button for the brain to erase this trauma.
 
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WhatCouldHaveBeen32

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Everyone should be eligible , but every case needs to be studied. Logic : it's in everyone's hands to decide if they don't want to live ; We heat our homes using heated up water in pipes instead of coals and wood ,the choice of dying should be something provided to us aswel, a service of some kind, a more humane service and a socially acceptable one at that. However I do think that asking the person for permission to share it's life story or give hints as to what is wrong with their life could be invaluable information to prevent such cases from ever happening. But who am I joking, this is wishful thinking.

People will be denied a peaceful and humane death, people will be dismissed and laughed at while they seek treatment and dump memories so dark you could swear that guy/gal just returned from war. No progress will be made, I'm pretty sure there are many cases similar to mine or yours, if the doctors would share their knowledge with eachother and work together instead of being money hungry hyenas like the rest of the world, treatment would be more accurate, it's just a dream in the end. And here I am haven't slept 22 hours , with my "silliness" and carefree personality gone because of the heavy lack of sleep, I don't even know why I live anymore.

I get so tired everyday , and just before sleep I get "sober" , from what? no idea, I don't drink nor do any kind of drug (no meds either) and I go from being an unregulated mess who can't type or hold down a conversation for the life of him, to somehow being able to write something that is partially coherent. I don't know if it's a masking thing or what but when I'm awake it's almost like I can't handle life so I take refuge in my head and play the day on auto pilot. I've been doing this for over 10 years since I was a pre-teen, it did not get better, I wish I could have killed myself then, I wish there were more humane ways to do it now.

I feel a pressure to be alive from my peers even if they hate me and don't even bother calling me, my family doesn't love me but yet would berate me if I killed myself, I sometimes think about taking it on them instead. They'll die eventually and that brings me a little peace.
 
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Anyone who is over the age of 18, regardless of health (mental or physical).
 
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Praestat_Mori

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To what I already said I may add:

We humans make other humans suffer even though we know they're terminally ill (or have other "incurable" problems that make their lives a hell.

We humans euthanize animals - specifically pets long before they really have to suffer but if other humans have to suffer they are kept alive against their will. Because life is so precious?!
 
LunarEc

LunarEc

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Feb 13, 2025
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For mentally ill patients their struggles have to exceed 6 months in that time period they should be getting help. If they don't improve then I'd say they should have the option to leave or stay. For people with severe physical illnesses that make life hard, they should be given the option if they ask for it anytime.
 

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