Who am to be judged by opponents of assisted suicide

[Rational man]

Would we allow our beloved pets to die horribly from a protracted terminal illness?

I doubt it and that is why we carry the most humane procedure of killing them, without their consent.

And yet humans are often capable of expressing their wish to die in the setting of.intractable suffering. I believe the mind and body is inseparable and the human being exists therein.

And yet my sound mind is questioned by the authority that upholds the sanctity of life, the same authority that must accept that many people are suffering terrible deaths, often without adequate symptom control, symptoms relief and pain management.

Until assisted dying is legalised globally, the pain and suffering will continue, whilst the authorities turn their blinded thinking away to more palatable subjects. I THEREFORE question the sound mind of the authority, that allows the suffering to continue.

 

[Smart No More]

It's the elephant in the room right?!

I have to say I find myself questioning the collective soundness of mind of various institutions and social cliques.

Its like a kind of mass hysteria in some cases. Hysteria may be the wrong term. Delusion maybe? Selective ignorance? I'm not sure.

There's an idiom that might suit this - "A camel is a horse designed by committee".

Committees, due to their reliance on several different opinions and viewpoints, produce results that are fragmented, inefficient, or of poor quality, especially compared to the work of a single individual or a small team. It doesn't quite encompass my whole feelings on the matter but does highlight the way the canned views of an organisation can scew and become detrimental to those they claim to serve. I am experiencing this myself in the medical setting. It can make you feel like either the only sane person in the room or, more detrimentally it can make you feel like you're going crazy. I guess it falls under the umbrella of what's recently been dubbed gaslighting.

 

[FuneralCry]

Denying people the option of assisted suicide will just mean that they have to resort to painful and risky methods to end their suffering. We will all die eventually anyway so there really is no need to make dying so unnecessarily awful. I think all those people who are against assisted suicide must be delusional as there are no disadvantages to being dead, all our problems are caused by the fact that we exist in the first place. Suicidal people shouldn't be judged, they should have their wish to die respected.

 

[Rational man]

It's the elephant in the room right?!

I have to say I find myself questioning the collective soundness of mind of various institutions and social cliques.

Its like a kind of mass hysteria in some cases. Hysteria may be the wrong term. Delusion maybe? Selective ignorance? I'm not sure.

There's an idiom that might suit this - "A camel is a horse designed by committee".

Committees, due to their reliance on several different opinions and viewpoints, produce results that are fragmented, inefficient, or of poor quality, especially compared to the work of a single individual or a small team. It doesn't quite encompass my whole feelings on the matter but does highlight the way the canned views of an organisation can scew and become detrimental to those they claim to serve. I am experiencing this myself in the medical setting. It can make you feel like either the only sane person in the room but more detrimentally it can make you feel like you're going crazy. I guess it falls under the umbrella of what's recently been dubbed gaslighting.

yes i.agree..also entwined is mankinds delusion of an omnipresent god

Denying people the option of assisted suicide will just mean that they have to resort to painful and risky methods to end their suffering. We will all die eventually anyway so there really is no need to make dying so unnecessarily awful. I think all those people who are against assisted suicide must be delusional as there are no disadvantages to being dead, all our problems are caused by the fact that we exist in the first place. Suicidal people shouldn't be judged, they should have their wish to die respected.

Yes, some appalling methods in the news..one case struck me was the dying man who had a gun smuggled into his hospital ward. The man blew his brain out in the company of staff and other patients. The scene must have been so traumatizing.

Denying people the option of assisted suicide will just mean that they have to resort to painful and risky methods to end their suffering. We will all die eventually anyway so there really is no need to make dying so unnecessarily awful. I think all those people who are against assisted suicide must be delusional as there are no disadvantages to being dead, all our problems are caused by the fact that we exist in the first place. Suicidal people shouldn't be judged, they should have their wish to die respected.

Yes, some appalling methods in the news..one case struck me was the dying man who had a gun smuggled into his hospital ward. The man blew his brain out in the company of staff and other patients. The scene must have been so traumatizing.

 

[Smart No More]

Yeah, that staunch belief that some divine being is guiding them through life with uber cryptic clues when their omnipotence would afford them the ability to remove all these issues people claim to o overcome due thw help of said clues and guidance is just nuts. And if it's true then God is not a nice person and considers us his personal video game. I don't have any desire to cow to a god that dangles quality of life like a carrot over our heads for their own ends.

Then there's the whole variety of religions which are all influenced by and mirror the limits of human imagination at the tine the scriptures were written.

I think the biggest hurdle of religion for me is that you don't get a pass from god unless you "believe". So even if you do everything just right you are not worthy unless you believe something god himself has not made an unquestionably provable thing. So what you really are expected to do is offer blind faith which is in total opposition to logic and human nature. I mean it doesn't get any cureler right?

Oh and you're not allowed to question God from the start. If you do you sinned. So you literally have to believe it from point dot. Is questioning others about god okay? Because that is questioning god indirectly. What are the rules. Ahhh, I'm so scared I'm just gonna do as I'm told.
Anyone that believes in gods omnipresence are lying to themselves because I know they selectively choose to believe he turns away while they're doing all that funky stuff they do to eaxh other in their bedroom. Selective believer face thyself or make your peace with the G man joining you in the sex swing.

 

[broken_songbird]

Would we allow our beloved pets to die horribly from a protracted terminal illness?

I doubt it and that is why we carry the most humane procedure of killing them, without their consent.

And yet humans are often capable of expressing their wish to die in the setting of.intractable suffering. I believe the mind and body is inseparable and the human being exists therein.

And yet my sound mind is questioned by the authority that upholds the sanctity of life, the same authority that must accept that many people are suffering terrible deaths, often without adequate symptom control, symptoms relief and pain management.

Until assisted dying is legalised globally, the pain and suffering will continue, whilst the authorities turn their blinded thinking away to more palatable subjects. I THEREFORE question the sound mind of the authority, that allows the suffering to continue.

Brilliant. Thank you.

It's the elephant in the room right?!

I have to say I find myself questioning the collective soundness of mind of various institutions and social cliques.

Its like a kind of mass hysteria in some cases. Hysteria may be the wrong term. Delusion maybe? Selective ignorance? I'm not sure.

There's an idiom that might suit this - "A camel is a horse designed by committee".

Committees, due to their reliance on several different opinions and viewpoints, produce results that are fragmented, inefficient, or of poor quality, especially compared to the work of a single individual or a small team. It doesn't quite encompass my whole feelings on the matter but does highlight the way the canned views of an organisation can scew and become detrimental to those they claim to serve. I am experiencing this myself in the medical setting. It can make you feel like either the only sane person in the room or, more detrimentally it can make you feel like you're going crazy. I guess it falls under the umbrella of what's recently been dubbed gaslighting.

YES!! It reminds me of that telephone game we played in school to show how unreliable gossip is. Same thing in these big institutions. By the time the information gets around, it's been changed by everyone who touched it in the process. Then the employees get paid to sift through a backlog and tell patients/clients how understaffed they are. They hand you a camel when you clearly need a horse. It's ridiculous. But I'm the one who's crazy because I'm the only one in the room who can both identify and suffer from the calamity and I'm the only one in the room wondering what I'm supposed to do with this damn camel.

yes i.agree..also entwined is mankinds delusion of an omnipresent god

Yes, some appalling methods in the news..one case struck me was the dying man who had a gun smuggled into his hospital ward. The man blew his brain out in the company of staff and other patients. The scene must have been so traumatizing.

Yes, some appalling methods in the news..one case struck me was the dying man who had a gun smuggled into his hospital ward. The man blew his brain out in the company of staff and other patients. The scene must have been so traumatizing.

WOW. I read about a guy who did the same thing outside a police station. He chose that spot to make a statement about how elective suicide should be normalized and humane.