Which methods have least chance of making things worse? Esp exit bag vs. CO

[rancho]

I really am afraid, with my luck, of not just failing, but of doing permanent brain damage, etc. Between exit bag and CO poisoning, which has the better chance of that not happening?

It seems that some of the out of reach ways would have even better chances - shotgun, N, opoids, etc.

 

[Jblack]

Any number of methods have a risk of brain damage if someone finds you and tries to revive you at the last minute. Hanging, CO, Inert gas and CO2 are just a couple of methods that trying to save someone at the last minute can result in brain damage. If a method is not executed correctly, there is also the risk of brain damage. It is not so much the method but what occurs when using that method.

 

[theguineapigking]

Hey. Both of the methods you listed can definitely cause brain damage if you're 'saved' . I don't know the answer to your question, regarding which of those 2 would have less risk... The only reason I'm replying without answer is to suggest you to look into sn. It is not as peaceful as n, but it does have a lot lower chance of permanent damage. It can be treated easily, should you be found early. I haven't seen any reports of brain damage that I can remember of from sn. I personally chose sn over hanging, partly due to the substantially lower risk of brain damage if found. Don't take my word for it of course. Do your own research and figure out what would work best for you. I'm just letting you know.

Best wishes.

 

[Greenberg]

Presuming you are mobile, the exit bag would have a higher probability of success as the generation of CO has a higher potential to attract attention. For instance, you can choose to CTB at a hotel; and you can be assured that no one will disturb you until checkout time the next day. Or you can also request not to be disturbed just by handing a sign on the doorknob. Conversely, CO requires a combustion source which in turn generates noticeable noises (car idling, generator running) or other revealing characteristics (smoke from smoldering charcoal or other combustibles).

 

[rancho]

Hey. Both of the methods you listed can definitely cause brain damage if you're 'saved' . I don't know the answer to your question, regarding which of those 2 would have less risk... The only reason I'm replying without answer is to suggest you to look into sn. It is not as peaceful as n, but it does have a lot lower chance of permanent damage. It can be treated easily, should you be found early. I haven't seen any reports of brain damage that I can remember of from sn. I personally chose sn over hanging, partly due to the substantially lower risk of brain damage if found. Don't take my word for it of course. Do your own research and figure out what would work best for you. I'm just letting you know.

Best wishes.

Presuming you are mobile, the exit bag would have a higher probability of success as the generation of CO has a higher potential to attract attention. For instance, you can choose to CTB at a hotel; and you can be assured that no one will disturb you until checkout time the next day. Or you can also request not to be disturbed just by handing a sign on the doorknob. Conversely, CO requires a combustion source which in turn generates noticeable noises (car idling, generator running) or other revealing characteristics (smoke from smoldering charcoal or other combustibles).

So the main thing to be worried about for brain damage is being "rescued?"...................Like if I have screwed something up on the exit bag, there really isn't much of a chance of brain damage?

 

[Greenberg]

Yes, you are correct in your assessment. The most important thing is not to be rescued! Given the requisite time, the exit bag will assure your desired outcome.

 

[BeBraveBrother]

I really am afraid, with my luck, of not just failing, but of doing permanent brain damage, etc. Between exit bag and CO poisoning, which has the better chance of that not happening?

It seems that some of the out of reach ways would have even better chances - shotgun, N, opoids, etc.

The CO method has more variables that aren't easy to control and ensure: i.e. the amount of CO in the room can only be estimated and with most sources you can't be sure how much CO they will produce in which amount of time. If the amount is too low you can suffer a desoriented, weird state that is full of agony, especially if you don't like the feeling of being extremly drunk which is somehow comparable to CO poisining but a lot harder if the CO level stays long enough on a level that doesn't make you completly unaware. Being in a state of deep agony without full orientation might bring me to the point to abort the attempt even though I am sincere to end my life.
From the information I do by now a conscientious carried out attempt with Inert Gas is more likely to succed as I should loose conciousness within the first minute and there are no reports of severe unpleasantness or even agony during the first steps of the process.

 

[TheQ22]

ALL methods have a big risk of going wrong if they aren't done properly, which is why you need to plan and not do things on impulse.

It's also a good idea because if you plan things properly it takes time, and if you're not really wanting to ctb (even if you don't realise right now that you don't really want to ctb) it means there's a better chance you won't do it because your thoughts will change over time.

Worst is rushing, getting it wrong, and fucking it up and then being worse off than at the outset.

 

[BeBraveBrother]

ALL methods have a big risk of going wrong if they aren't done properly, which is why you need to plan and not do things on impulse.

It's also a good idea because if you plan things properly it takes time, and if you're not really wanting to ctb (even if you don't realise right now that you don't really want to ctb) it means there's a better chance you won't do it because your thoughts will change over time.

Worst is rushing, getting it wrong, and fucking it up and then being worse off than at the outset.

Yeah you're right. That's what I mean with a "concentious carried out attempt" - althouth "attempt" isn't the right word. I should use "plan" instead.
With Inertg Gas you have the oppurtunity to have information on purity, amount and flow rate which are fundamental information.