Which arguments in politics sound alluring to you but are at their core simply wrong?

[noname223]

Throw the immigrants out of the country and your problems will be solved. Everything will be fine.
My dad thinks exactly this way.

Participation in democracy isn't worth it. Nothing changes anyway and my voice/vote does not matter. It is more rational to stay out of it. Thinking about it is a waste of time.

If Trump's second term is over, the status quo will come back. The same for Ukraine if there is a peace treaty in Ukraine military investments will be pointless. If Putin dies, Russia we stop being a rogue state.

All the other people who don't share my political views are sheep and brainwashed. Me I am never manipulated by the media or anyone.

 

[DarkRange55]

Ready for me to get my cheeks clapped in the comments?

Communism.

 

[isthisit?]

communism and democracy. neither work in practice.

 

[lastappleonearth]

Throw the immigrants out of the country and your problems will be solved. Everything will be fine.
My dad thinks exactly this way.

Participation in democracy isn't worth it. Nothing changes anyway and my voice/vote does not matter. It is more rational to stay out of it. Thinking about it is a waste of time.

If Trump's second term is over, the status quo will come back. The same for Ukraine if there is a peace treaty in Ukraine military investments will be pointless. If Putin dies, Russia we stop being a rogue state.

All the other people who don't share my political views are sheep and brainwashed. Me I am never manipulated by the media or anyone.

The thing abt Trump and Ukraine is so true. I can't fathom how ppl can believe that with Trump gone the status quo will return, Trump is just a symptom of a much larger issue in America and him being gone won't change anything

 

[wehamuho]

democracy

lolwut what alternative u suggest?

for me when americans say that we dont need a safety net cuz oh high taxes prevent people from competing and its an illusion of safety! cuz us is so rich cuz people have freedom over their money and it allowed us to be so rich! look at europe how wealth is much harder so is being rich, getting prosperous cuz the huge opportunity cost taxes for the people have in individual investment!! there people with no problem leaving us disabled behind for the benefit of the rest, even if more people were better off it is impermissible! no matter what! it might not be unworkable but is morally forbidden!

 

[DeathJester]

I technically identify with the ideals of socialism, I feel no empathy or support for the higher classes that take our underpaid lifelong commitment to their business and economy for granted. And why should I? It's cucked to do so. We gain nothing from that aside the lukewarm dishonest tale that anyone can "make it" just like them. Wich is the biggest and most bitter lie of capitalism. It implies that their concentrated wealth was created by fair and ethical means. That their world is technically open to us all, wich is so removed from reality.

But I simply don't believe that humanity will ever be good enough for a communist society. People will always find ways to build elites, abuse the power structure and live on the back of actual workers. Quite misanthropic but it's literally just based on the historical data we have. It's lazy and dishonest to cope and pretend that socialist countries only collapsed because of the constant struggle that the cold war and sabotage put them through. People just weren't good enough.

We were never made to co-exist in societies of millions. Humans are naturally tribalists and stop behaving healthy when tight-knit small communities dissapear.

 

[isthisit?]

lolwut what alternative u suggest?

for me when americans say that we dont need a safety net cuz oh high taxes prevent people from competing and its an illusion of safety! cuz us is so rich cuz people have freedom over their money and it allowed us to be so rich! look at europe how wealth is much harder so is being rich, getting prosperous cuz the huge opportunity cost taxes for the people have in individual investment!! there people with no problem leaving us disabled behind for the benefit of the rest, even if more people were better off it is impermissible! no matter what! it might not be unworkable but is morally forbidden!

I dont really see a problem with authoritarianism and fascism. the problem with every system is that with enough money all systems can be controlled. 1930s germany is a good example of how fascism can work when government and private institutions work together towards a common goal.

 

[fluorescentpearl]

Communism 100%