Where should N be kept if you live in a humid climate? (please help, terrified)

[tryingtoescape]

I live in a humid area. The springs and summers are incredibly hot and humid. I have an AC and fans of course, but my relatives (I'm in my 20s, I just live at home) turn them, & the heat in winter, on and off. Thought a brand new batch could be kept in a dark space, but I had a humidifier on that my Dr told me to use for a vocal cord disorder, on a warm, high mist setting like my Dr instructed, and when I looked, little bubbles had formed on the surface of the liquid inside, & tinier ones lower down, in the bottles. I also noticed what looked like very slight prescription in one spot where the liquid wasn't (at the very top)

Humid, moist spaces are known to severely damage potency of drugs. I wish I knew of the severity of this before. I thought only a dark place was important, and I didn't know that heat that didn't exceed 90° or moist conditions could be dangerous. I don't know what environmental conditions caused this.

I know a dark, dry area is good but where is that in your house? How do you store it to extend shelf life, and do you see any signs of breakdown or bubbles in yours? Do you live in a humid climate? I know these are a lot of questions, but I want to deduce which area is safest. I may sound paranoid but this is life or death serious for me. I'm in constant physical anguish.

I am terrified about this. I'm desperate to escape my agonizing physical illnesses. If it happened once I'm scared it will happen again. It would be very hard for me to spend that $ when I spent 1000s of $ on medical bills on a life-changing injury that didn't even heal. I can't afford to spend so much. I also have a gaba tolerance, and do not know when I will kill myself, in how many years, so something less potent carries a huge risk. So I'm terrified and I want to know where it should be kept to extend shelf life.

If you feel more comfortable you can pm me, I'm terrified right now and I seriously appreciate any help.

 

[Judy Garland]

First, I know how paranoid and scared you must feel. It was difficult to get N, it's not freely available, and yeah, you're nervous about losing its efficacy because of humidity and climate. I'm paranoid too, about my Sodium Nitrite. But here is what helps. Nembutal isn't something new. Before we had air conditioners, all sorts of drugs including Nembutal were exposed to humidity and even heat. And guess what...they were ok! You aren't keeping your N in a hot car with the windows closed, you aren't keeping it in the sun light, or next to a heater. You are being careful. The bubbles you find is normal. As long as you have kept those bottles sealed, then you are fine. I have to remind myself too, with SN. I have it sealed closed, and taped to create a better seal. I opened it once, and I was paranoid after that! But I am also being careful where to put it, and it gets humid where I live too. It already has because of the rain. I'm doing my best with it, so I shouldn't worry. And neither should you. We read what SN breaks down into, and what makes Nembutal "spoil", but what we need to remember is, that it takes a lot for those chemical changes to happen. Even with SN. And it ALSO takes A LONG TIME. So again, don't worry. You are being careful, and that matters.

 

[wljourney]

I wouldn't be too worried about bubbles on the outside of the bottles but on the inside??

Using a food vacuum sealer to keep moisture out would probably help and/or storing them in a sealed container (like those used for water sports to keep belongings dry).
Google "outdoor watertight box"?

 

[tryingtoescape]

I wouldn't be too worried about bubbles on the outside of the bottles but on the inside??

Using a food vacuum sealer to keep moisture out would probably help and/or storing them in a sealed container (like those used for water sports to keep belongings dry).
Google "outdoor watertight box"?

On the surface of the liquid inside, and other tiny ones lower down inside.

 

[wljourney]

On the surface of the liquid inside, and other tiny ones lower down inside.

i'll trust @Judy_Garland who said that's normal. I don't have mine yet.
She is quite correct: you aren't storing them in a hot car.

I think you can manage the humidity with a watertight box and maybe even with a silica gel dehumidifier inside the box. But you would have to check those in regular intervals and possibly change them.

Example:

 

[tryingtoescape]

i'll trust @Judy_Garland who said that's normal. I don't have mine yet.
She is quite correct: you aren't storing them in a hot car.

I think you can manage the humidity with a watertight box and maybe even with a silica gel dehumidifier inside the box. But you would have to check those in regular intervals and possibly change them.

Example:

My concern is that SN is powder, which is a lot more durable and can last years and years, and N is liquid. And I don't know when I'll kill myself. I did buy some silica gel bags. Is there a reason you suggest checking them?

 

[wljourney]

My concern is that SN is powder, which is a lot more durable and can last years and years, and N is liquid. And I don't know when I'll kill myself. I did buy some silica gel bags. Is there a reason you suggest checking them?

SN apparently is quite sensitive to humidity, so N would be safer to store for much longer.

Either way. Yes, silica bags are good. The moister the environment the more often you have to change them to prevent mould. 1-2 per year should be fine.

Google: "how long do silica bags last in a humid environment"

 

[tryingtoescape]

SN apparently is quite sensitive to humidity, so N would be safer to store for much longer.

Either way. Yes, silica bags are good. The moister the environment the more often you have to change them to prevent mould. 1-2 per year should be fine.

Google: "how long do silica bags last in a humid environment"

Thank you. Would appreciate more replies

 

[fizi22]

so if you put the N in an airtight container in the fridge, moisture wont get in in the container right?

 

[tryingtoescape]

so if you put the N in an airtight container in the fridge, moisture wont get in in the container right?

I am not sure, I was wondering if it would collect moisture in a fridge? The way leafy greens and fruits and veggies do at the bottom of a fridge. As well as if the changes in temperature if you remove it from the fridge, and then put it back in etc. would be damaging as well.

Does anyone know what kind of airtight container would be best? Some airtight containers promote moisture instead of dryness.

I don't think I'd feel comfortable using a fridge. As I mentioned I live in a humid area so this is why I am worried and trying to figure out what the safest storage circumstances would be.

 

[tryingtoescape]

Still haven't gotten many replies from people who live in hot/humid climates. There must be some people here from Florida or New York who experience long hot, humid summers who have n. It gets up to 90° in the springs and summers and the humidity is even worse than that. Even in a dark, enclosed space. It is already extremely humid here in my house and it's not even summer.

Please pm if you'd rather. We alternate fans and AC on depending on how hot it is, but I don't know know much about if those frequent temperature fluctuations daily would affect moisture buildup in the bottle. It did already, and I'm trying to avoid it again. I'm also hoping a fan wouldn't blow moist air around.

I have considered storing it in a fridge, but I'd be taking it back out during the colder months then, and I'm afraid the temperature changes could cause moisture buildup (since that has happened and I now see heavy condensation in mine, and the exterior suddenly felt moist like when you touch a bathroom mirror after a shower, after it was exposed to humid.) Humid, moist spaces are known to severely damage potency of drugs, quickly too. This is something I need to plan for because I have no other means as I can't walk and I can't risk affecting the potency even more since there's already a lot of condensation at the top.

 

[Lost Magic]

I keep my SN and N in air tight containers in cool cupboards. I also put little silica gel packets nearby to absorb any moisture.