What's your opinion of these lyrics?

[Ambivalent1]

Cause sometimes you just feel tired.
You feel weak and when you feel weak you feel like you wanna just give up.
But you gotta search within you, you gotta find that inner strength
and just pull that shit out of you and get that motivation to not give up
and not be a quitter, no matter how bad you wanna just fall flat on your face and collapse.

-Eminem Til I Collapse

 

[momento.mori]

I think most of us including myself live these lyrics everyday! Eminem

 

[Ambivalent1]

I think most of us including myself live these lyrics everyday! Eminem

It's hard for me to ctb because in the 2000s the messages in the airwaves were about overcoming and never giving up. It's embedded in my psyche.

 

[momento.mori]

That's when music was great, it's all trash now. I often listen to old music, it makes me think of the happy life I use to have. Whatever it takes for you to hold on and not ctb then hold it close. Nobody Really wants to ctb, we want to exist, but we get tired of the pain. I need to find something to hold on to.

 

[damyon]

Sounds motivational. I guess that was the intent.
Those who want to hear this may find it uplifting.

~~~
I see it as a projection. Invert the situation (the lyrics), and the majority will criticize you for the message.

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The music is good, I guess; it is top-tier for the early 2000s.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Sounds motivational. I guess that was the intent.
Those who want to hear this may find it uplifting.

~~~
I see it as a projection. Invert the situation (the lyrics), and the majority will criticize you for the message.

~~~
The music is good, I guess; it is top-tier for the early 2000s.

What's the invert?

 

[EvisceratedJester]

 

[damyon]

What's the invert?

I meant "to consider the opposite". Like " flip the circumstances or conditions of a situation".

 

[Forever Sleep]

I don't 'gotta' do anything. It's a choice. If the reward still seems worth it- fine. If you still feel obligation to keep trying for the sake of others or whatever- fine but, ultimately it's a choice. My choice. I don't need to be told to 'try harder'. When I want something, that's all the motivation I need to work hard towards it. But sure- if you want to recover then, you'll likely need to keep trying and try harder if the current effort isn't working.

Ironically, suicide takes effort too and shit loads of courage. Kind of ironic that I'm going to have to give myself a similar pep talk if I ever get the courage to do it. For me: quit living your shitty life you don't actually want to live day to day. Time to make true on what you've been intending for over 30 years. Time to put your plan into action.

That's the irony of all this I find. Suicide isn't a passive act. It's quite often a very violent act that flies in the face of everything we've been taught. Ok, we may be hoping to quit suffering in our lives but, we'll likely have to go through pain and fear to get there. It isn't exactly giving up. It's taking the biggest risk we've probably ever taken in our lives.

 

[Ambivalent1]

I meant "to consider the opposite". Like " flip the circumstances or conditions of a situation".

I know. What's the invert of the lyrics?

 

[damyon]

I know. What's the invert of the lyrics?

Asked ChatGPT:

You feel strong, and when you feel strong, you feel like you want to keep pushing.
But you must look outside yourself, you must lose that inner strength
and simply push that stuff into you and find that demotivation to give up
and be a quitter, no matter how much you want to stand tall on your feet and succeed.

~~~
It is sad that it is censored and will not go further than that...

But also kinda funny and silly, haha

 

[Ambivalent1]

I don't 'gotta' do anything. It's a choice. If the reward still seems worth it- fine. If you still feel obligation to keep trying for the sake of others or whatever- fine but, ultimately it's a choice. My choice. I don't need to be told to 'try harder'. When I want something, that's all the motivation I need to work hard towards it. But sure- if you want to recover then, you'll likely need to keep trying and try harder if the current effort isn't working.

Ironically, suicide takes effort too and shit loads of courage. Kind of ironic that I'm going to have to give myself a similar pep talk if I ever get the courage to do it. For me: quit living your shitty life you don't actually want to live day to day. Time to make true on what you've been intending for over 30 years. Time to put your plan into action.

That's the irony of all this I find. Suicide isn't a passive act. It's quite often a very violent act that flies in the face of everything we've been taught. Ok, we may be hoping to quit suffering in our lives but, we'll likely have to go through pain and fear to get there. It isn't exactly giving up. It's taking the biggest risk we've probably ever taken in our lives.

 

[1MiserableGuy]

Fuck Eminem

 

[Ambivalent1]

Fuck modern Eminem

 

[1MiserableGuy]

I meant what I said. Hot garbage. Plenty of actually decent music out there and Eminem is not it

 

[1MiserableGuy]

Not anymore. No decent music since early 2010s. It's all ghetto garbage musik now. The equivalent of hakuna matata blaring across the airwaves

Don't know if you're trying to be situationally unaware or not, but whatever the masses consume has always been shit, regardless of the year in question. Usually a good indicator something may be good if less than 10k people know about it.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Don't know if you're trying to be situationally unaware or not, but whatever the masses consume has always been shit, regardless of the year in question. Usually a good indicator something may be good if less than 10k people know about it.

What about Mozart? He was loved by all. Was he shit?

 

[1MiserableGuy]

What about Mozart? He was loved by all. Was he shit?

I don't know if you realize this but the way we look at music retrospectively is vastly different than how it was looked in its time

I don't know if you realize this but the way we look at music retrospectively is vastly different than how it was looked in its time

Furthermore, Mozart was such a procrastinator he didn't finish Don Giovanni until the morning it premiered

 

[Ambivalent1]

I don't know if you realize this but the way we look at music retrospectively is vastly different than how it was looked in its time

I don't know if you realize this, but you're pretentious.

I don't know if you realize this but the way we look at music retrospectively is vastly different than how it was looked in its time

Furthermore, Mozart was such a procrastinator he didn't finish Don Giovanni until the morning it premiered

Mozart didn't need discipline to be great.

 

[1MiserableGuy]

I don't know if you realize this, but you're pretentious.

Mozart didn't need discipline to be great.

I've been called worse