what’s ur most controversial/unpopular opinion?

[cheems]

Life sucks for all and antinatalism is the only moral stance regarding reproduction.

Some people don't care about suffering of any kind.
Some people don't care about suffering of other people.
Some people don't care about suffering of animals.
Some people don't care about suffering outside of themselves.
Some people don't care about suffering that will inevitably happen to your child, if you have one.
Some people don't care about suffering in the future.

We very much know, on a global level, of a way to rid the world of pain and suffering and discomfort and need - just don't add any of it by making people in the first place. Please. It should be obvious...

 

[Final_Choice]

Since about 2019 or 2020 (not sure when I started) I've been working on datasets for generative AI, wanting to make it as good as possible so it could be a resource for everyone. I wasn't getting paid, just received grants for a few dollars a month just to test the model because I wanted it to be available for everyone. I was under the assumption that this would be a tool ethically developed, available for free to anyone and everyone. I expected everything I heard on the news in regards to this technology, except for commercial release around the third quarter of 2022. I thought it would still be a tool for research and was nowhere near ready, yet because the people in the company I volunteered for only cared about money they released it. Because of that now I see so many random people just hopping on the band wagon, getting their quick buck and leaving; utilizing data unethically claimed to produce better results at a faster pace, becoming millionaires by just redistributing pure base models with barely any additions, and everything else you hear about this stuff.

 

[cold_severance]

if goverments fail on their responsibility of delevering justice to someone, people should be legally allowed to take matter in their own hands.

 

[sserafim]

Here are all of my controversial opinions (more like stances/beliefs): I'm an anti-natalist, pro-choice (suicide and abortion), anti-capitalist, anti-work, anti (organized) religion (still debating whether or not I'm anti-religion entirely) anarchist. I think that the most controversial ones would be that I'm a supporter of anti-natalism and the right to die. I believe that procreation is selfish and immoral, and that it is inherently wrong. Procreation is the root of all suffering. It's better never to have been as existence can only harm an individual.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I think that suicide is freeing rather than tragic. I envy those who are dead, not those who are alive

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

I think it's okay for people to have double standards/be hypocritical. We all do it, so why pretend only people we disagree with shouldn't be allowed to do it? I believe it's far more interesting to understand why somebody might allow some leeway for some people or situations and not others rather than just blindly dismiss everything just because it seems contradictory. I also think it's lame when people try to excuse their own biases and double standards by instead claiming them to be objective facts or saying things like "no it's actually different so it's justified because of…" like whatever man, just admit you're having a double standard about something it's honestly perfectly okay with me.

 

[d3ad]

Funerals are self-centered. Pulling this out of my ass bc I've never been to one. It's not really about the person who died, it's about how those that are left behind will cope.

True!

Funerals are self-centered. Pulling this out of my ass bc I've never been to one. It's not really about the person who died, it's about how those that are left behind will cope.

True!

 

[BorderlineChellery]

More unpopular than controversial...
Donuts are disgusting
Friends is shit

 

[leavingthesoultrap]

I don't believe what NASA claims about space.
The moon landing was fake.
There's no international space station.
No human ever left the Earth.

 

[Bianka]

All religion be spit on, believers ostracized, priests in prison
Sorry not sorry

It's not really about the person who died, it's about how those that are left behind will cope.

That's the point tho. Who argues against that? It's hard to give a shit when you're dead

 

[sserafim]

Here are all of my controversial opinions (more like stances/beliefs): I'm an anti-natalist, pro-choice (suicide and abortion), anti-capitalist, anti-work, anti (organized) religion (still debating whether or not I'm anti-religion entirely) anarchist. I think that the most controversial ones would be that I'm a supporter of anti-natalism and the right to die. I believe that procreation is selfish and immoral, and that it is inherently wrong. Procreation is the root of all suffering. It's better never to have been as existence can only harm an individual.

I forgot to include that another one of my controversial opinions is that I'm anti-procreation. Procreation is evil and inherently bad. The logical thing for humanity to do would be to stop having kids.

Another one is that I believe that religion is just a tool used to control people.

 

[sserafim]

I wouldn't fully call myself an anti-natalist, I don't think procreation is inherently wrong or evil I just feel there just needs to be more planning, support and foresight behind every birth. I think it needs to be a more informed decision - which would require a lot of uncomfortable truths to come to light. People need to listen to the needs of their communities and those responsible for caring and raising the next generation. The goal should be to alleviate suffering as much as possible not perpetuate it. If life truly is a gift as they say, we ought to treat it as such.

The issue is that parents can do everything right and the child can still suffer (simply due to the fact that they exist). This is why in theory, it's better never to have been, as existence can harm an individual. Life itself is a gamble, there are so many things that can harm you just because you exist. Like rape, murder, bullying, war, crime, scams, debt, illnesses, death of your loved ones, trauma, physical pain, mental pain, mental illness, etc. This is why I believe that it's wrong to bring another being into existence because they inevitably will be harmed. The world is a dangerous, violent and cruel place.

 

[Ferdinand Bardamu]

Eugenics should be instated to purge society of parasites. (Yes, I am aware of how glowy I sound right now)

 

[sserafim]

Eugenics should be instated to purge society of parasites. (Yes, I am aware of how glowy I sound right now)

What about to purge society of disabilities and illnesses? Personally I believe that eugenics should be instated to purge society of disabilities, I have Asperger's and it's not fun to live with. It's basically a curse. If this condition had been bred out of the population, then I wouldn't have to suffer like this and could have succeeded in attempting to be "normal". I could be successful…

Disabilities are not beneficial or a "gift". The word disability implies that you'll always be at an disadvantage, you'll always be less-abled than others. You'll never be on a level playing field with other people, and instead will always be disadvantaged, yet you still have to play their game and live in their world. Having ASD is like playing a video game on hard mode. Everyone else is playing on easy mode, and no one even knows that you're playing on hard mode (it's an invisible disability and I look normal on the surface). The merciful thing for society to do would be to allow everyone to be on the same level.

 

[Ferdinand Bardamu]

What about to purge society of disabilities and illnesses? Personally I believe that it should be used to purge society of disabilities, I have ASD and it's not fun to live with. It's basically a curse. If this condition has been bred out of the population, then I wouldn't have to suffer like this and could succeed in attempting to be "normal". I could be successful…

The disabled and ill (Those who cannot be cured) are parasites - as cruel as that sounds.

Disabilities are not beneficial or a "gift". The world disability implies that you'll always be at an disadvantage, you're less-abled than others. You'll never be on a level playing field as other people, and instead will always be disadvantaged. The merciful thing for society to do would be to allow everyone to be on the same level.

That is why I am for Eugenics. That and the problems of suffering and resource consumption when compared to resource output.

 

[R_N]

I feel anti natalism will always be most controversial because it would go against nature for species to eradicate themselves. I am speaking about a scenario where majority would do this, which is never happening. Minority doing it probably serves some purpose even for humans.

 

[Adûnâi]

The disabled and ill (Those who cannot be cured) are parasites - as cruel as that sounds.

Your name is fittingly cool!

....My controversial opinion is such:
=I hate the American Empire because it's the most merciful empire in the history of mankind.=

This way, I concur with Marxists, but for the opposite reasons.

 

[Tokugawa_Yoshinobu]

Equality does not exist in any way and trying to make people equal under the law or in other ways leads to nothing and is like dreaming the dream under a thousand suns that never ends. Things people have in common are superficial and without coercion there would be a struggle all against all.

True "freedom" is nothing more than anarchy and sometimes more scary than extreme control.

Life is a struggle and the ones that can't make it tend to kill themselves like here on the forum.

 

[Ferdinand Bardamu]

Do you consider those that are disabled and ill here to be parasites? (You don't have to respond, I'm just curious.)

Honestly, yes

 

[Ferdinand Bardamu]

do you believe that even those who're ''parasites'' but desire to live should be euthanized?

Thats a tough question. I would say, yes as cruel as that is.

 

[hikikomorizombie]

religion is a plague on society that impedes progress & always has been.
99.9% of ppl are extremely unintelligent, like Special Ed type.
humanity needs to/should be culled.

 

[sserafim]

religion is a plague on society that impedes progress & always has been. 99.9% of ppl are extremely unintelligent, like Special Ed type.

I agree that religion is a plague on society and impedes progress. Honestly, I believe that religion is just a tool used to control people. Religion is a backwards way of thinking.

I also agree that the general population is extremely unintelligent. They seem to have no critical thinking skills and are all sheep who give into herd mentality and groupthink. Why can't they think for themselves?

 

[Ferdinand Bardamu]

I think that Race is real and society should divide itself along Racial lines

 

[hikikomorizombie]

I agree that religion is a plague on society and impedes progress. Honestly, I believe that religion is just a tool used to control people. Religion is a backwards way of thinking.

I also agree that the general population is extremely unintelligent. They seem to have no critical thinking skills and are all sheep who give into herd mentality and groupthink. Why can't they think for themselves?

bc thinking for yourself & having to form ur own thoughts, opinions, morals, & beliefs separate from the 'herd' is scary, & too hard for most of them.

just like how not believing in an afterlife waiting after death is too scary for themmost if not all problems in the world come down to fear & unintelligence :p

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Reading the recent comments on here made me think of two new controversial opinions.


Firstly, religion is absolutely shitty and it fucked up a lot of third world countries. Life wouldn't be perfect without religion but, for most people, it would be significantly better. I say this as somebody who left religion after realising how bullshit it is.

Secondly, I completely support eugenics. I think that lots of people are against eugenics because they just woke up with it randomly one day and treat it as this buzzword that they don't even fully understand the meaning of. Whenever they talk about being against eugenics, they refer to hitler doing his genocide as an example of why eugenics is bad but eugenics isn't just mass murdering people who are currently alive.

They think eugenics is bad because it means to involuntarily kill off those who are alive and disabled whether they say so or not. However, all eugenics is selecting genetics best suited for the environment. And, unfortunately, those who are disabled have a harder chance to thrive in this world because this world was made for neurotypicals who can be efficient at being cogs in a machine. Sure, those who are disabled can live good lives but this is rare.

Preventing a non sentient being from existing isn't murdering them as they never existed to begin with and, even if they have the chance to live a good life, they wouldn't wish to be existent because no non existent being wishes for life. It's a win-win situation for everybody. The world gets more pro lifers who are willing to be wage slaves and the disabled people who would inevitably suffer from life... won't suffer from life as they were never brought into existence in the first place

I guess another controversial opinion of mine (though this links to the controversial opinion above) is that those with any disability should be allowed either assisted suicide or nembutal that they can use. People tend to go against this argument by suggesting that it would just kill off the disabled people in the masses yet they fail to connect the dots that, if allowing euthanasia makes it so lots of disabled people would choose it, it implies that they know that life is harder for disabled people to where it's undesirable for them. Hell, they even say that, instead of allowing euthanasia for disabled people, society should make sure that the world is better off for disabled people in the first place. Though, ironically, it's the same society that's saying this that would walk away and continue to let the world be harder for disabled people

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Another controversial opinion I have is that a lot of the opinions expressed here don't actually seem all that controversial or uncommon. Maybe I've just been in all the wrong places…or are they the right ones?

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

Here is mine: there are certain skills, goals, etc that are physically impossible to achieve depending on the individual, but in the interest of motivation people lie and say anything is possible. Or most commonly, people will say that you may lack aptitude for something, but that if you practice enough inevitably you would achieve mastery at the level of someone who is naturally gifted at that skill and able to pick it up.

I'll give an example. I've been studying Japanese for 5+ years now and I'm still at the level of a primary school child, even with lessons. Even if I studied everyday for the rest of my life I would never be as fluent as someone who speaks it as their native tongue. People highly overestimate the concept of neuroplasticity and think the brain can be moulded into anything no matter what. So perhaps that's my true unpopular opinion, people overestimating the capabilities of the brain don't realize that it has limits and that some people physically cannot master something no matter how hard they try due to inherent limitations, and we should stop pretending otherwise.

 

[Argo]

I guess that closest we've come to articulating the outcome of nature in our universe is something demonic and Lovecraftian and that any appearance of progress is an illusion that something very evil uses as it grows into its stronger and stronger forms. Not really "controversial" but definitely unpopular and not really workable for daily life. It would be a blessing to be wrong but I'm sure there are countless nightmare configurations the universe could be in. Many more ways to be wrong than right, etc. So even if I have the details wrong the odds are good that the idea: "Things are way worse than you can imagine" is true. Which is again, not a position that people tend to flock to because it's too psychologically destabilizing.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

Autism should be eradicated.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Another controversial opinion I have is that a lot of the opinions expressed here don't actually seem all that controversial or uncommon. Maybe I've just been in all the wrong places…or are they the right ones?

Is that so? I don't know about you but I think that supporting eugenics is controversial. I'd say that this opinion that is controversial even on this site. Another controversial opinion is listed on the first page where somebody stated that all people of all ages should be allowed a peaceful way out (that means minors too).

I think that saying that life has no inherent value is controversial amongst the general population but not as much on this site. I also think that saying that all religion should be eradicated is very controversial too as many people are religious and the ones who aren't still stupidly advocate for religion to live on