Chaestergram

Chaestergram

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Nov 24, 2021
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(If any womxn come over here, don't hesitate to share your pov on the question if it applies to you)

Before anything yep I'm definitely young and no I have those despite thinking that being single is goal and yet still have my own pov and opinion of it, if feeling trigger sorry i guess but that's how I talk and I sure know it's ULTRA annoying lol

Don't misunderstand it's just a share pov/experience or even moral type of thing, nothing too deep

What's up with the majority of people being obsessed with that ?

I don't get how come someone can't appreciate being single, like seriously being single and taking care of yourself, having all the time in the world to work on your stuff, only giving a fuck about you is just AWESOME !

Nobody to care for, to think of, to have responsibilities for, to deal with their crazy habits, insecurities, dealing with the wrong person, having to explain yourself to that person, if you live with them having to simply deal with them 24/7 and so much more like jeez that shit is truly exhausting, I did appreciate and was single by choice before and it did me a whole lot of good that I sound like I could leave my man to be back to the single life lol

And then for the sex part I really don't understand neither, sex is the easiest thing to get on earth, even the least attractive person get pussy/dick so does tons of people with physical disabilities so why can't you ?

It's not like there isn't billionth of thots and especially male thots out there ? Tons of sex worker ? Tons of horny people ? Naturist places ? Sex beach ? Swinger clubs ? Tons of people as desperate as you ? Even getting someone far from your physical criteria and putting a damn bag on their face or closing your eyes the whole process ? Glory hole ffs ? Even making porn as male are just people that replied to an ads and there's no criteria for womxn when it is for amateur production. So why so hard when normally you should just go out and just get someone for the night ????

Genuinely asking cause never thought it was actually that hard for some people before I come here and I thought there was just different type of people, those that attract easily, the just middle and those with ugly ass personalities so that would be the reason of them not getting any pussy/dick and not for how their look since when it comes to sex, late at night, nobody gives a fuck about how the person look just boom and ciao
 
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OrcWitch

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I'm just a slave to my mating instincts I guess. I hate being alone.
 
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For those of us who would love nothing more than to have a loving family, we see a very lonely and bleak future ahead of us - not to mention that we don't contribute to the world by not transferring our values to a new person - if we reproduce.

What's the purpose of life if it can't be shared with someone? I'm in my 30's and am already fed up with everything, so I can't imagine ever thinking that my life is awesome - and I can't stand the thought of living 50 years more.

Life is a sand castle that you build for other people to enjoy. I assume that life gets terrifyingly depressing when you have watched the same movies for the fiftieth time, don't have very much money - since you don't split the rent or mortgage with anyone - and when no one listens to you when your body is aching in your later years, you will probably wish that there was someone there who could take care of you and keep you company.

Perhaps this is all just the ramblings of a lonely male, but life will remain meaningless for as long as I can't share it with someone dear.

I don't wish to be confrontational, but it sounds like you are very young, and I believe that you will realize these things sooner rather than later, as well.

One major negative aspect of today's society is that parents let their children be raised by smartphones and tables, so those children won't ever know what a good relationship should look like.
 
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For those of us who would love nothing more than to have a loving family, we see a very lonely and bleak future ahead of us - not to mention that we don't contribute to the world by not transferring our values to a new person - if we reproduce.

What's the purpose of life if it can't be shared with someone? I'm in my 30's and am already fed up with everything, so I can't imagine ever thinking that my life is awesome - and I can't stand the thought of living 50 years more.

Life is a sand castle that you build for other people to enjoy. I assume that life gets terrifyingly depressing when you have watched the same movies for the fiftieth time, don't have very much money - since you don't split the rent or mortgage with anyone - and when no one listens to you when your body is aching in your later years, you will probably wish that there was someone there who could take care of you and keep you company.

Perhaps this is all just the ramblings of a lonely male, but life will remain meaningless for as long as I can't share it with someone dear.

I don't wish to be confrontational, but it sounds like you are very young, and I believe that you will realize these things sooner rather than later, as well.

One major negative aspect of today's society is that parents let their children be raised by smartphones and tables, so thos children won't ever know what a good relationship should look like.
I am indeed young and already have my wannabe society norm life.

My own opinion of the question that hasn't changed from back when I was a kid, a teen to now even tho I'm fiancé and pregnant I definitely still imagine myself living my old life, alone, in a farm with a few animals far from the city.

30 is young, hence to me 60 is even young but there is tons of things to do in life then focusing on love, all this time can be use in our own self, learning about us, discovering the world and so much more, just with this tons of people could meet their person (or one of them) far more easier and faster than focusing on what they don't have
 
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Julgran

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I am indeed young and already have my wannabe society norm life.

My own opinion of the question that hasn't changed from back when I was a kid, a teen to now even tho I'm fiancé and pregnant I definitely still imagine myself living my old life in a farm with a few animals far from the city.

30 is young, hence to me 60 is even young but there is tons of things to do in life then focusing on love, all this time can be use in our own self, learning about us, discovering the world and so much more, just with this tons of people could meet their person (or one of them) far more easier and faster than focusing on what they don't have

I see, and I'm happy for your sake.

The problem for lonely people is that their internal expectations of life and their pleasure centers make them strive for love, which is the reason for their pursuit of love to begin with - it's not something that someone chooses to do.

Yearning for love is a feeling - much like depression or anxiety.
 
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What's up with the majority of people being obsessed with that ?

I don't get how come someone can't appreciate being single, like seriously being single and taking care of yourself, having all the time in the world to work on your stuff, only giving a fuck about you is just AWESOME !

And then for the sex part I really don't understand neither, sex is the easiest thing to get on earth, even the least attractive person get pussy/dick so does tons of people with physical disabilities so why can't you ?

Why are you suicidal? :ahhha:
 
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Dec 19, 2021
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What'd up with the majority of people being obsessed with that ?

I don't get how come someone can't appreciate being single, like seriously being single and taking care of yourself, having all the time in the world to work on your stuff, only giving a fuck about you is just AWESOME !

Nobody to care for, to think of, to have responsibilities for, to deal with their crazy habits, insecurities, dealing with the wrong person, having to explain yourself to that person, if you live with them having to simply deal with them 24/7 and so much more like jeez that shit is truly exhausting, I did appreciate and was single by choice before and it did me a whole lot of good that I sound like I could leave my man to be back to the single life lol

And then for the sex part I really don't understand neither, sex is the easiest thing to get on earth, even the least attractive person get pussy/dick so does tons of people with physical disabilities so why can't you ?

It's not like there isn't billionth of thots and especially male thots out there ? Tons of sex worker ? Tons of horny people ? Naturist places ? Sex beach ? Swinger clubs ? Tons of people as desperate as you ? Even getting someone far from your physical criteria and putting a damn bag on their face or closing your eyes the whole process ? Glory hole ffs ? Even making porn as male are just people that replied to an ads and there's no criteria for womxn when it is for amateur production. So why so hard when normally you should just go out and just get someone for the night ????

Genuinely asking cause never thought it was actually that hard for some people before I come here and I thought there was just different type of people, those that attract easily, the just middle and those with ugly ass personalities so that would be the reason of them not getting any pussy/dick and not for how their look since when it comes to sex, late at night, nobody gives a fuck about how the person look just boom and ciao

I am definitely a proponent of the single life. I have been in relationships, and was devastated a few times after a breakup. However, my suicidality started long before then. I decided to just stop pursuing relationships because I wanted all my energy to go toward my career, which I considered far more important than any relationship. When I was still relatively well, I thoroughly enjoyed every aspect of being single. I liked going to movies and restaurants alone, staying in the office until 11pm without feeling guilty (or being lectured about work/life balance, or accused of not wanting to spend time with the person), and sleeping like a star fish on the bed! Eventually my life imploded and now it is intolerable, but it isn't because I don't have a partner. Even if my dream man walked through the door and wanted to marry me instantly, it wouldn't make me want to live.

But I think we all have things in our lives that we prioritize. My sister never pursued proper career training at all. She didn't go to university and she has a two year college diploma in an obscure field that is wholly impractical in the city in which she lives. She has had a series of odd jobs, and just now got a regular part-time job. I would find that humiliating, but to her, having a husband is far more important than having a career, so she's happy, because she is engaged. (Just ask her, she'll tell you all about it. Actually she'll tell you even if you don't ask). If it were me, I'd be devastated at the state of my life (not suicidal but certainly not happy), but she's thrilled. Where I prioritized a career, she prioritized having a man. She got what she wanted, so power to her, I suppose.

In a perfect world, all of us would be able to at least get the number one thing that we prioritize. We don't need to get greedy, but it sure would be nice to at least get the most important thing.
 
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idiotstillwantstodie

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It's not like there isn't billionth of thots and especially male thots out there ?
Sure, but it doesn't help much being a straight male
Tons of sex worker ?
Expensive
Naturist places ? Sex beach ?
Not sure what you mean but not in my country. Too cold.
Swinger clubs ?
Swinging is usually reserved for couples.
Tons of people as desperate as you ?
There are no dating apps for desperate people. Desperate people are usually low energy introverts, and they are trying to hide their desperation best they can, so it can be hard to find other horny desperate people.
Even getting someone far from your physical criteria and putting a damn bag on their face or closing your eyes the whole process ?
How would you feel if someone put a bag on your face during sex?

Seriously, i wouldn't like it if i was seen as a walking penis. I'm a human being and if you find me repulsive looking then just stay away from me. I could always buy a fleshlight or something if i just wanted to stick my dick in to something that feels different.

That's not having sex to me. Sex is about mutual lust.
Glory hole ffs ?
Just no.
Even making porn as male are just people that replied to an ads and there's no criteria for womxn when it is for amateur production. So why so hard when normally you should just go out and just get someone for the night ????
Introversion + not too attractive looks is a deadly combination for males. Not much more to it.

My only selling physical quality is my dick, which is pretty big. But if i put that on my tinder profile then everyone would just think i'm a pervert haha.
 
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Chaestergram

Chaestergram

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Nov 24, 2021
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Why are you suicidal? :ahhha:
Definitely not for this, it would had been known if suicidal was only for people that don't got love/sex, life would be so much more easier
Sure, but it doesn't help much being a straight male

Expensive

Not sure what you mean but not in my country. Too cold.

Swinging is usually reserved for couples.

There are no dating apps for desperate people. Desperate people are usually low energy introverts, and they are trying to hide their desperation best they can, so it can be hard to find other horny desperate people.

How would you feel if someone put a bag on your face during sex?

Seriously, i wouldn't like it if i was seen as a walking penis. I'm a human being and if you find me repulsive looking then just stay away from me. I could always buy a fleshlight or something if i just wanted to stick my dick in to something that feels different.

That's not having sex to me. Sex is about mutual lust.

Just no.

Introversion + not too attractive looks is a deadly combination for males. Not much more to it.

My only selling physical quality is my dick, which is pretty big. But if i put that on my tinder profile then everyone would just think i'm a pervert haha.
Eh i guess can have some time for some agree to disagree type of shit

- Straight male are the ones that have the most intercourse, especially when they are younger but of course it depends on many factors and who those male are.
- Prostitute and low quality brothel are not expensive but you can forget about hygiene, there's also cam sex that is pretty cheap, especially with new independent model.
- I don't know for everywhere in the world but in Europe (especially France, the rest of Europe is just red district) we have a city dedicated to naturist and all type of sexual kink people, so it's common over there to find a beach full of people fucking with each other's.
- Yes and no, nowadays swingers club are full of people that just met on websites dedicated to it without being in a relationship with each other's. (And can still enter it without someone, especially those techno/swingers clubs)
- There is tons of advertising websites full of desperate people, back then it was the personal section of Craigslist or backpage. (Oh and people into bdsm are the most desperate, especially those with hard kinks and that haven't done any of their fantasies except online)
- Not my kink but people have this kink of having a bag on their face, especially those with an humiliation kink and even some clients where ready to pay good money for it.

But how come the male side of dating app is not a place full of horny people ? I mean, I allowed my partner to go on one for work purposes and I was shocked about how people was straight to the point compared to my own experience of it but eh depending on who you talk to dicks can make a huuuuge difference, as exemple people like me value that shit lol
 
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And then for the sex part I really don't understand neither, sex is the easiest thing to get on earth, even the least attractive person get pussy/dick so does tons of people with physical disabilities so why can't you ?

It's not like there isn't billionth of thots and especially male thots out there ? Tons of sex worker ? Tons of horny people ? Naturist places ? Sex beach ? Swinger clubs ? Tons of people as desperate as you ? Even getting someone far from your physical criteria and putting a damn bag on their face or closing your eyes the whole process ? Glory hole ffs ? Even making porn as male are just people that replied to an ads and there's no criteria for womxn when it is for amateur production. So why so hard when normally you should just go out and just get someone for the night ????

Many human beings are shy, reserved & passive (introverts). They don't want to fuck, they want to make love. Putting yourself in other people's shoes isn't something you're terribly good at, is it? :ahhha:
 
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idiotstillwantstodie

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Eh i guess can have some time for some agree to disagree type of shit

- Straight male are the ones that have the most intercourse, especially when they are younger but of course it depends on many factors and who those male are.
I was referring to the male thots you wrote about earlier.
- Prostitute and low quality brothel are not expensive but you can forget about hygiene, there's also cam sex that is pretty cheap, especially with new independent model.
Yeah they are, if you want to have sex regularly. No brothels in my country so no cheap sex for sale. Not sure if i would go even if there were. Those poor women are getting paid shit
- I don't know for everywhere in the world but in Europe (especially France, the rest of Europe is just red district) we have a city dedicated to naturist and all type of sexual kink people, so it's come on over there to find a beach full of people fucking with each other's.
Interesting, maybe i should go to France
eh depending on who you talk to dicks can make a huuuuge difference, as exemple people like me value that shit lol
I think penis size is in general much more important to men than women. To women, almost any other physical feature is more important, so is money, socioeconomic status, not to mention sex skills. Which is completely understandable.

Men are worried about penis size because it's usually made the man's "responsibility" if the genitals of the two lovers are not an ideal match. Maybe because with men the problem is more... out there lol.
 
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Chaestergram

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Nov 24, 2021
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Many human beings are shy, reserved & passive (introverts). They don't want to fuck, they want to make love. Putting yourself in other people's shoes isn't something you're terribly good at, is it? :ahhha:
Nah, not my intention to actually do that I did that enough that am good just being in my own shoes, anyway, just trying to see different perspectives than my own and especially the "how come" since we have the chance to all think and experience the exact same thing differently. And main reason why I include sex AND love
 
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just trying to see different perspectives than my own and especially the "how come" since we have the chance to all think and experience the exact same thing differently.

Well, you appear to be an extrovert & some people are introverts, & that's why they perceive the exact same thing differently than you.
 
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In my case, I have never been able to get into a relationship with anyone because I was either too stupid or there were times where I intentionally sabotaged my own happiness due to being split between multiple selves that hate each other's guts. The reason I long for a relationship is because the last time I fell for someone who actually seemed to like me back, there was indeed a glimmer of hope for my situation. I finally felt like a real person and not two warring factions trying to kill each other. I actually had motivation to grow up and do all sorts of things I never want to do just for the chance to do it with someone I care about who also cares about me. If it hadn't been cut short so soon it's very possible I could have eventually become able to achieve this state with my own power but because I've had a taste of what it was like to feel these sorts of emotions without even getting to experience the negative consequences of being in a relationship, it's almost impossible for me to have it any other way now. Maybe it wouldn't have lasted long but now I'll never get to know and that just makes the longing more severe.

I'm fully aware that I'm a horrible person though so at this point I've resigned myself to no longer actively seeking a relationship before I die but it doesn't mean I don't still occasionally feel lonely and have various emotional/physical needs not being met that extend to way more than just sex. Sex would be nice but I also would like love and yeah I know I'm saying this because I've never experienced it at 27 years old but I've been told to my face that this singular fact alone is already digging me deeper and making it more and more difficult to get with someone because I can understand how it's a literal red flag.

Tl;dr: I don't expect a relationship to fix myself, I just see it as my last resort in only potentially fixing some of my problems with laziness and motivation because my dumb lizard brain can only be urged to try at anything if it gets a chance at reproduction.
 
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Chaestergram

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Well, you appear to be an extrovert & some people are introverts, & that's why they perceive the exact same thing differently than you.
*appear* otherwise I am an introvert regardless of how I sound or even act irl, but still doesn't give me a concrete why, respectable obviously but nothing for me to indeed start expressing empathy
 
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eternalpeace

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Dec 19, 2021
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Definitely not for this, it would had been known if suicidal was only for people that don't got love/sex, life would be so much more easier

Eh i guess can have some time for some agree to disagree type of shit

- Straight male are the ones that have the most intercourse, especially when they are younger but of course it depends on many factors and who those male are.
- Prostitute and low quality brothel are not expensive but you can forget about hygiene, there's also cam sex that is pretty cheap, especially with new independent model.
- I don't know for everywhere in the world but in Europe (especially France, the rest of Europe is just red district) we have a city dedicated to naturist and all type of sexual kink people, so it's common over there to find a beach full of people fucking with each other's.
- Yes and no, nowadays swingers club are full of people that just met on websites dedicated to it without being in a relationship with each other's. (And can still enter it without someone, especially those techno/swingers clubs)
- There is tons of advertising websites full of desperate people, back then it was the personal section of Craigslist or backpage. (Oh and people into bdsm are the most desperate, especially those with hard kinks and that haven't done any of their fantasies except online)
- Not my kink but people have this kink of having a bag on their face, especially those with an humiliation kink and even some clients where ready to pay good money for it.

But how come the male side of dating app is not a place full of horny people ? I mean, I allowed my partner to go on one for work purposes and I was shocked about how people was straight to the point compared to my own experience of it but eh depending on who you talk to dicks can make a huuuuge difference, as exemple people like me value that shit lol
I don't want to wade too much into this, but in my experience, dating apps are definitely filled with horny, desperate people. (Not saying everyone who is on one is such, but a lot are…)

Also, are there really places in France where people just have sex on the beach out in the open? Wow. The French really ARE different!
 
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Yeah, I don't care about sex at all. My is libido practically dead and I'm rarely even attracted to people anymore. One good thing about being in a relationship, though, is that someone can remind me that I'm not completely worthless. Even if they don't constantly say it, the fact they even want to be around me is reassuring. This was a major reason why I was so obsessed with the idea of finding someone in my younger days and, even today, that reassurance still helps quite a bit.
 
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I am indeed young and already have my wannabe society norm life.

My own opinion of the question that hasn't changed from back when I was a kid, a teen to now even tho I'm fiancé and pregnant I definitely still imagine myself living my old life, alone, in a farm with a few animals far from the city.

30 is young, hence to me 60 is even young but there is tons of things to do in life then focusing on love, all this time can be use in our own self, learning about us, discovering the world and so much more, just with this tons of people could meet their person (or one of them) far more easier and faster than focusing on what they don't have
You're asking why everyone else doesn't choose to be single, when you yourself are not making that choice.
Does that make much sense at all to you?
You make the case, you romanticize it, yet you don't choose it for yourself, you don't abandon what you have (that many others do not obtain so soon or so easily), you just talk.
You can't call other people to an action that you won't perform yourself nor maintain yourself.
(Do I really need to spell out the old adage?)

Everyone focuses on what they don't have.
If you're hungry, all you're going to be able to think about is food.

(If any womxn come over here, don't hesitate to share your pov on the question if it applies to you)

Before anything yep I'm definitely young and no I have those despite thinking that being single is goal and yet still have my own pov and opinion of it, if feeling trigger sorry i guess but that's how I talk and I sure know it's ULTRA annoying lol

Don't misunderstand it's just a share pov/experience or even moral type of thing, nothing too deep

What's up with the majority of people being obsessed with that ?

I don't get how come someone can't appreciate being single, like seriously being single and taking care of yourself, having all the time in the world to work on your stuff, only giving a fuck about you is just AWESOME !

Nobody to care for, to think of, to have responsibilities for, to deal with their crazy habits, insecurities, dealing with the wrong person, having to explain yourself to that person, if you live with them having to simply deal with them 24/7 and so much more like jeez that shit is truly exhausting, I did appreciate and was single by choice before and it did me a whole lot of good that I sound like I could leave my man to be back to the single life lol

And then for the sex part I really don't understand neither, sex is the easiest thing to get on earth, even the least attractive person get pussy/dick so does tons of people with physical disabilities so why can't you ?

It's not like there isn't billionth of thots and especially male thots out there ? Tons of sex worker ? Tons of horny people ? Naturist places ? Sex beach ? Swinger clubs ? Tons of people as desperate as you ? Even getting someone far from your physical criteria and putting a damn bag on their face or closing your eyes the whole process ? Glory hole ffs ? Even making porn as male are just people that replied to an ads and there's no criteria for womxn when it is for amateur production. So why so hard when normally you should just go out and just get someone for the night ????

Genuinely asking cause never thought it was actually that hard for some people before I come here and I thought there was just different type of people, those that attract easily, the just middle and those with ugly ass personalities so that would be the reason of them not getting any pussy/dick and not for how their look since when it comes to sex, late at night, nobody gives a fuck about how the person look just boom and ciao
I'm unsure if you're trolling on some level, but I will choose to take you seriously.
Though I have to be honest, I'm not even sure I can decipher exactly what points you're trying to make, so clarify if need be.

What's with the majority of people being obsessed with what?
Love?
Sex?
I mean, the first should be self-explanatory in the sense that every human being usually desires to be cared for, thought of, given priority from time to time, listened to, heard, provided with affection, attention, and devotion..this and much else constitutes the typical definition of "love", although it varies and comes to us in different forms.

As for sex, your guess is as good as mine, I think I should probably be asking YOU that question considering you seem to have more experience in that area.
I don't have the desire to get involved in a sexual/romantic relationship, I have somewhat of an aversion to sex as far as actually participating in it, I have no interest to pursue the action. So I'm probably more confused as to its prevalence than most.
Obviously there is its use in procreation, which people ought to consider far more than they currently do.
And then there is the supposed agreement among the majority that sex is the utmost form of intimacy and provides a physical connection to further illuminate the emotional one (I obviously disagree, but I'm biased).

So that's that.
Should we maybe try to push the envelope and get society to put just as much emphasis on other types of relationships, intimacy building activities, and even the importance of catering to the individual self?
I think so, but good luck trying to convince anyone else.
Trust me, I've tried.

I don't understand why people cannot appreciate being single either, other than the fact that even if someone did prefer that, the rest of the world would never let them hear the end of it, we are taunted even by the things we could do without, sometimes even the fact that every OTHER person places importance on something, is enough for the lone wolf to be forced to place importance on it as well, else they risk further ostracism.

Also, as people get older, they couple up, they drift, they abandon all but their "other half", I don't agree with this domestic linearity but even the most stubborn of autonomous and independent people could be pushed to have to go searching for a companion, simply because all of their friends and family did the same, and subsequently left them with no one.
It's sort of like an "if you can't beat them, join them" narrative. (Peer pressure and disparaging of the single life, from those who are not single, is also a culprit. Same thing happens to virgins who are pushed to lose it.)
I mean, you said yourself that you are a fiancé and pregnant, you walked the same line you're imploring others to hop off of (or stop thinking about).
Why did you walk that line? (Because it's probably not dissimilar to the reason everyone else does, or wants to.)

I would have to agree with some of your comments in your fifth(?) and sixth(?) paragraphs, many of which are things I have thought myself. However, you say that the single life did you such good, so why not leave your man? (Sorry bro)
But really, why not practice what you preach? What is the issue?
Certainly if the single life was truly better for you, you would have returned.
Perhaps you are planning to?

As for the notion that anyone could get sex, there may be some amount of truth to this, but you've omitted the level of difficultly from the equation, and the risk.
Most people, especially women, do not want to live off of groveling (or paying) for one night stands. This is extremely damaging. Even many men prefer to do it with the same partner on a regular basis, someone they are comfortable with, where there is mutual care involved.

Don't even get me started on the discourse about looks not mattering, because they do, and you damn well know they do.
Perhaps more than sex or money or anything else people often whine about.
They shouldn't matter, but I didn't create the rules of life as we know them, as of now, this is what we have to endure.
And in the context of sex, in the bedroom, where attraction is at the peak of requirement, things are no different.
Physically unattractive people will have a much harder time gaining a sexual partner, and an even more difficult time getting into a stable and loving relationship, of no fault of their own.
You are asking them to do things and accept scenarios that attractive-and similarly privileged-people would never be asked to attempt, and that is as rotten as any prejudice.
Same with the physical disabilities..sex will not be simple, easy, or afforded to them in the same manner that it is for others (except, ironically, if their looks outweigh their disability).
You say they can obtain love and sex so "why can't you?"...but you don't belong to the exemplified categories you outline, so you really cannot speak on it accurately.
You have no idea what these people go through to get even an ounce of what other people take for granted every single day, you cannot fathom it, you're just relying on a one-note vantage point, your own perception of lives you do not lead, and perhaps throwing in a bit of wishful thinking as well.

All the possible avenues of sex you list are not some one-stop shop around the block,
you also suggest something as cruel and dehumanizing as putting a bag over an unattractive person's face..when you previously wondered why such people have a hard time acquiring sex and/or love.
Well, people like you are the reason why, and sadly you are most people.

I'm not sure what you mean by "criteria", do you mean to be a sex-worker in porn, or to be involved with a sex-worker?
Because the former absolutely does have criteria. Unless you can make bank off some esoteric fetish or making a fool out of yourself via self-humiliation that others get off on, you usually always need to be attractive to get the coin rolling in.
There is a reason certain women (and some men) are more successful on platforms such as OF. There is a reason that those who critique the use of OF (for both patron and host) are often chided with comments like "Lol, you just too ugly to have an OF, that's why you mad! Tehehe~", because there is more than an ounce of truth to the idea that better looking people out perform the rest, simply by being better looking.

(Tangent incoming) It's part of the reason why I don't even consider OF to be a home to real sex-workers (you know, people who actually HAVE sex to pay their bills, the prostitutes that had to risk their lives and bodies out in the street just to put food on the table, the ones who are too beaten down to even do well on something like OF) it's mostly just a bunch of lazy, immature girls who are too stupid (or too caught up in themselves and their naked bodies) to realize that their "content" is not going to remain behind their pay wall, and that there is nothing respectable or 'hard working' about what they are doing.

'Little Lessa wanted $500 for feet pics and a couple more for videos of her t*ts and @ss, meanwhile the run-down mother of 3 around the corner who can't compete with the 2am cam girl sipping bubble tea on her stomach, is forced to work part time at multiple fast food joints until her ankles snap and Covid (via customer) kills her.'
You see what I'm saying?

Life is not the same, nor fair for every human being, opportunities are not handed out equally, love and sex are no different, and when you're kept from something, when you're told you're not good enough to have it in the same way everyone else does, well sometimes you may just start wanting it even more, needing it, it's no wonder people are obsessed. There are multiple angles contributing to this obsession.

You never thought it was that hard for people, because it was never that hard for you. You ate the cake, now you're full, you've had your taste and you're satisfied enough to wonder about life without another slice.
But what if you had never had it?
That unfulfilled desire could keep you up at night. That locked door that simply must be broken through.
Go back, put yourself in another person's shoes.
If an asexual lunatic like me can consider the valid reasons as to why others feel the pull toward something I do not, then why can't you do the same? (As you so put the question yourself.)

Before you came here, you thought there were just different types of people..okay, well obviously, but if you're claiming to have never thought in terms of how the world values these different types of people, then you are being disingenuous (other comments you have made contradict that claim).
Variety does not simply exist for variety's sake, there are objective measures of certain characteristics of a person (namely physical in this context) that determine how they are thought of by others, and what they are offered in life.
It's a very cruel reality.
"Those that attract easily"-good looking
"The just middle" -plain looking
"Those with ugly ass personalities"- is this supposed to be some sort of euphemism for ugly people?
Because those categorizations you listed, in practice, have little to do with personality alone, or at all. So you left the unattractive out at the last bit.
They do exist, I think even you have established that much, so let's not play games and beat around the bush in the end.

But yes, people who are truly abhorrent in their personality will have a harder time at connecting with others on most levels, but they're also some of the most successful people on the planet, and if they're attractive-even more to their favor, people will make excuses for their bad behavior and nasty attitude and won't even bat an eye at their obscene nature. (They would have to do something almost unanimously detested in order to be spurned by all, like a sexual crime against a child, especially if said child was murdered thereafter.)
In the end, I assure you that people do care very much about how the other person looks.
Just ask your fiancé, late at night during your "boom and ciao".
 
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I don't want to wade too much into this, but in my experience, dating apps are definitely filled with horny, desperate people. (Not saying everyone who is on one is such, but a lot are…)
Also, are there really places in France where people just have sex on the beach out in the open? Wow. The French really ARE different!
I definitely agree with you !

And yes, it's called « Cap d'Agde », how things are can easily be found on porn site otherwise when I went there it was definitely a complete scene from the everyday life France, French people are some horny mfs like fr
You're asking why everyone else doesn't choose to be single, when you yourself are not making that choice.
Does that make much sense at all to you?
You make the case, you romanticize it, yet you don't choose it for yourself, you don't abandon what you have (that many others do not obtain so soon or so easily), you just talk.
You can't call other people to an action that you won't perform yourself nor maintain yourself.
(Do I really need to spell out the old adage?)

Everyone focuses on what they don't have.
If you're hungry, all you're going to be able to think about is food.


I'm unsure if you're trolling on some level, but I will choose to take you seriously.
Though I have to be honest, I'm not even sure I can decipher exactly what points you're trying to make, so clarify if need be.

What's with the majority of people being obsessed with what?
Love?
Sex?
I mean, the first should be self-explanatory in the sense that every human being usually desires to be cared for, thought of, given priority from time to time, listened to, heard, provided with affection, attention, and devotion..this and much else constitutes the typical definition of "love", although it varies and comes to us in different forms.

As for sex, your guess is as good as mine, I think I should probably be asking YOU that question considering you seem to have more experience in that area.
I don't have the desire to get involved in a sexual/romantic relationship, I have somewhat of an aversion to sex as far as actually participating in it, I have no interest to pursue the action. So I'm probably more confused as to its prevalence than most.
Obviously there is its use in procreation, which people ought to consider far more than they currently do.
And then there is the supposed agreement among the majority that sex is the utmost form of intimacy and provides a physical connection to further illuminate the emotional one (I obviously disagree, but I'm biased).

So that's that.
Should we maybe try to push the envelope and get society to put just as much emphasis on other types of relationships, intimacy building activities, and even the importance of catering to the individual self?
I think so, but good luck trying to convince anyone else.
Trust me, I've tried.

I don't understand why people cannot appreciate being single either, other than the fact that even if someone did prefer that, the rest of the world would never let them hear the end of it, we are taunted even by the things we could do without, sometimes even the fact that every OTHER person places importance on something, is enough for the lone wolf to be forced to place importance on it as well, else they risk further ostracism.

Also, as people get older, they couple up, they drift, they abandon all but their "other half", I don't agree with this domestic linearity but even the most stubborn of autonomous and independent people could be pushed to have to go searching for a companion, simply because all of their friends and family did the same, and subsequently left them with no one.
It's sort of like an "if you can't beat them, join them" narrative. (Peer pressure and disparaging of the single life, from those who are not single, is also a culprit. Same thing happens to virgins who are pushed to lose it.)
I mean, you said yourself that you are a fiancé and pregnant, you walked the same line you're imploring others to hop off of (or stop thinking about).
Why did you walk that line? (Because it's probably not dissimilar to the reason everyone else does, or wants to.)

I would have to agree with some of your comments in your fifth(?) and sixth(?) paragraphs, many of which are things I have thought myself. However, you say that the single life did you such good, so why not leave your man? (Sorry bro)
But really, why not practice what you preach? What is the issue?
Certainly if the single life was truly better for you, you would have returned.
Perhaps you are planning to?

As for the notion that anyone could get sex, there may be some amount of truth to this, but you've omitted the level of difficultly from the equation, and the risk.
Most people, especially women, do not want to live off of groveling (or paying) for one night stands. This is extremely damaging. Even many men prefer to do it with the same partner on a regular basis, someone they are comfortable with, where there is mutual care involved.

Don't even get me started on the discourse about looks not mattering, because they do, and you damn well know they do.
Perhaps more than sex or money or anything else people often whine about.
They shouldn't matter, but I didn't create the rules of life as we know them, as of now, this is what we have to endure.
And in the context of sex, in the bedroom, where attraction is at the peak of requirement, things are no different.
Physically unattractive people will have a much harder time gaining a sexual partner, and an even more difficult time getting into a stable and loving relationship, of no fault of their own.
You are asking them to do things and accept scenarios that attractive-and similarly privileged-people would never be asked to attempt, and that is as rotten as any prejudice.
Same with the physical disabilities..sex will not be simple, easy, or afforded to them in the same manner that it is for others (except, ironically, if their looks outweigh their disability).
You say they can obtain love and sex so "why can't you?"...but you don't belong to the exemplified categories you outline, so you really cannot speak on it accurately.
You have no idea what these people go through to get even an ounce of what other people take for granted every single day, you cannot fathom it, you're just relying on a one-note vantage point, your own perception of lives you do not lead, and perhaps throwing in a bit of wishful thinking as well.

All the possible avenues of sex you list are not some one-stop shop around the block,
you also suggest something as cruel and dehumanizing as putting a bag over an unattractive person's face..when you previously wondered why such people have a hard time acquiring sex and/or love.
Well, people like you are the reason why, and sadly you are most people.

I'm not sure what you mean by "criteria", do you mean to be a sex-worker in porn, or to be involved with a sex-worker?
Because the former absolutely does have criteria. Unless you can make bank off some esoteric fetish or making a fool out of yourself via self-humiliation that others get off on, you usually always need to be attractive to get the coin rolling in.
There is a reason certain women (and some men) are more successful on platforms such as OF. There is a reason that those who critique the use of OF (for both patron and host) are often chided with comments like "Lol, you just too ugly to have an OF, that's why you mad! Tehehe~", because there is more than an ounce of truth to the idea that better looking people out perform the rest, simply by being better looking.

(Tangent incoming) It's part of the reason why I don't even consider OF to be a home to real sex-workers (you know, people who actually HAVE sex to pay their bills, the prostitutes that had to risk their lives and bodies out in the street just to put food on the table, the ones who are too beaten down to even do well on something like OF) it's mostly just a bunch of lazy, immature girls who are too stupid (or too caught up in themselves and their naked bodies) to realize that their "content" is not going to remain behind their pay wall, and that there is nothing respectable or 'hard working' about what they are doing.

'Little Lessa wanted $500 for feet pics and a couple more for videos of her t*ts and @ss, meanwhile the run-down mother of 3 around the corner who can't compete with the 2am cam girl sipping bubble tea on her stomach, is forced to work part time at multiple fast food joints until her ankles snap and Covid (via customer) kills her.'
You see what I'm saying?

Life is not the same, nor fair for every human being, opportunities are not handed out equally, love and sex are no different, and when you're kept from something, when you're told you're not good enough to have it in the same way everyone else does, well sometimes you may just start wanting it even more, needing it, it's no wonder people are obsessed. There are multiple angles contributing to this obsession.

You never thought it was that hard for people, because it was never that hard for you. You ate the cake, now you're full, you've had your taste and you're satisfied enough to wonder about life without another slice.
But what if you had never had it?
That unfulfilled desire could keep you up at night. That locked door that simply must be broken through.
Go back, put yourself in another person's shoes.
If an asexual lunatic like me can consider the valid reasons as to why others feel the pull toward something I do not, then why can't you do the same? (As you so put the question yourself.)

Before you came here, you thought there were just different types of people..okay, well obviously, but if you're claiming to have never thought in terms of how the world values these different types of people, then you are being disingenuous (other comments you have made contradict that claim).
Variety does not simply exist for variety's sake, there are objective measures of certain characteristics of a person (namely physical in this context) that determine how they are thought of by others, and what they are offered in life.
It's a very cruel reality.
"Those that attract easily"-good looking
"The just middle" -plain looking
"Those with ugly ass personalities"- is this supposed to be some sort of euphemism for ugly people?
Because those categorizations you listed, in practice, have little to do with personality alone, or at all. So you left the unattractive out at the last bit.
They do exist, I think even you have established that much, so let's not play games and beat around the bush in the end.

But yes, people who are truly abhorrent in their personality will have a harder time at connecting with others on most levels, but they're also some of the most successful people on the planet, and if they're attractive-even more to their favor, people will make excuses for their bad behavior and nasty attitude and won't even bat an eye at their obscene nature. (They would have to do something almost unanimously detested in order to be spurned by all, like a sexual crime against a child, especially if said child was murdered thereafter.)
In the end, I assure you that people do care very much about how the other person looks.
Just ask your fiancé, late at night during your "boom and ciao".
I won't answer to everything but the few things that I read, sorry but I just don't focus on message that are long in general and just read a few things.

I was/am actually a sex worker and do not consider OF model as such, even if it is a form of it so yes I do know the difference and do know that there is no criteria when you do IRL sex work, we don't choose our clients for their physical appearance but for their seriousness and of course if they are not already blacklisted.

The ONLY reason to have criteria to the sex worker is :

1. Choosing to work for an agency, which most of them DO have criteria (mostly thin, white, Russian babydoll)
2. For porn : going for big companies for the first experience and the criteria aren't even that complicated.

Otherwise you have sex worker for ALL taste, petite, chubby, overweight, tall, thin, thick, white, black, Asian, Latin, Arabs, bdsm, extreme kinks etc etc

So yes as an ex porn actress, escort and cam girl yes i know how this shit work.

• Then I had chosen to stay single for 7 years so does I had chosen to be in a relationship, if I didn't wanted to then I wouldn't even bother considering. and for my own choice of singleness this is why I don't understand and never understood for that matter.

• This post has no specific purpose, just everyone up to state their mind on the subject and there's quite some good answer that indeed makes me understand but this of course are from the comments of people that sounds less triggered by my words, which is why I don't reply to all cause it just doesn't spark my interest of wanting to understand someone.

• I care about my own self (yep can say that I'm the selfish type) this is why the lack of comprehension. There's some point I *could* come to understand but eh not really.

• I know that looks do matters, it would be hypocritical of me to not know it when this is something I was looking for but still I never always been with people that I found physically attractive (for dating not sex), matter of fact it rarely happens but they had what I was looking in a personality even if I didn't wanted to have sex with them because I wasn't attract but I do believe that there is quite a few people out there that care about personality or just sex without physical attraction.

And I quote my fiancé « if you getting no pussy it's your own fault, I can't take you seriously if you come bitching online about it, when mfs are ugly they have a personality, I know some ugly ass mfs sho knows how to talk and they get mad pussies and if you ugly with no personality pick one but if you staying lock in your room jerking off all day ofc you're not going to get pussies »
 
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Interesting thread, anyway here's my point of view.

 
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I definitely agree with you !

And yes, it's called « Cap d'Agde », how things are can easily be found on porn site otherwise when I went there it was definitely a complete scene from the everyday life France, French people are some horny mfs like fr

I won't answer to everything but the few things that I read, sorry but I just don't focus on message that are long in general and just read a few things.

I was/am actually a sex worker and do not consider OF model as such, even if it is a form of it so yes I do know the difference and do know that there is no criteria when you do IRL sex work, we don't choose our clients for their physical appearance but for their seriousness and of course if they are not already blacklisted.

The ONLY reason to have criteria to the sex worker is :

1. Choosing to work for an agency, which most of them DO have criteria (mostly thin, white, Russian babydoll)
2. For porn : going for big companies for the first experience and the criteria aren't even that complicated.

So yes as an ex porn actress, escort and cam girl yes i know how this shit work.

• Then I had chosen to stay single for 7 years so does I had chosen to go in a relationship and for my own choice of singleness this is why I don't understand and never understood for that matter.

• This post has no specific purpose, just everyone up to state their mind on the subject and there's quite some good answer that indeed makes me understand but this of course are from the comments that triggers less people.

• I care about my own self (yep can say that I'm the selfish type) this is why the lack of comprehension. There's some point I *could* come to understand but eh not really.

• I know that looks do matters, it would be hypocritical of me to not know it when this is something I was looking for but still I never always been with people that I found physically attractive, matter of fact it rarely happens but they had what I was looking in a personality even if I didn't wanted to have sex with them because I wasn't attract but I do believe that there is quite a few people out there that care about personality or just sex without physical attraction.
I would like to add for the OF exemple that no, no gender need to be attractive, people would be surprise of the amount of "unattractive" people making a living from this.

Internet is full of people with the weirdest kink ever and being an OF model is still a work that requires effort and dedication, except if of course someone already have a huge following on social media then yes it becomes easier and the marketing can be skipped.

There is tons of OF model with every shape and form, all genders, from the beauty standards to overweight and hairy.
 
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And I quote my fiancé « if you getting no pussy it's your own fault, I can't take you seriously if you come bitching online about it, when mfs are ugly they have a personality, I know some ugly ass mfs sho knows how to talk and they get mad pussies and if you ugly with no personality pick one but if you staying lock in your room jerking off all day ofc you're not going to get pussies »
I mean if my lack of pussy is my own fault, then is that not alone a great reason to kill myself? That bastard has to pay for ruining my life one way or another.

Plus my personality being so unattractive and ugly just means other people should really be opening the door for me to let me end myself in peace before it actually harms someone else. 🤷
 
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