What's the suicide rate of your illness?

[noname223]

I am bipolar. Approximately 25-50 % of people with bipolar try at least one suiicide attempt. Round about 15-30% ctb. I cannot imagine who to deny the option suicide with this illness. Moreover I think I have a severe kind of bipolar disorder. I know many people wtih bipolar who deal with this shit way better than me. Or they had luck like having a boyfriend who pays the bills.
I think the main reasons why people ctb with this illness is poverty (just like me) and that the illness often proceed in cycles. (I think I won't survive another severe depression)
What is the suicide rate of your illness and what do you think is the main reason why they ctb?

 

[Amumu]

I probably have unipolar disorder (depression + dysthymia) so between 10 and 20% imo

 

[Lutembëe]

I'm also bipolar (type 2)...

 

[lofticries]

According to this article 70% of people with bpd will attempt and 10% succeed.

NYP-BPD-Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD)-Understanding BPD | NYP

Symptoms of BPD: People with BPD may experience these feelings in response to certain triggers. For example, they may see anger in someone else’s face, even though that person is not feeling that way, and have a stronger reaction to words with negative meanings than people who do not have BPD.

www.nyp.org

bdp really does feel like you're a burn victim emotionally which is why i tend to avoid people. Also the black and white thinking is horrible. And its very easy to get into something and take it to the extreme. At least in my case.

 

[WornOutLife]

I'm in the same situation as you.
Also, money worries me a lot. I've been able to start working again but I'm like "Damn, I'm way too unstable. I might end up as a homeless person someday"
I just don't know what will happen and my anxiety level is in the clouds.

 

[noname223]

My anxiety is really high too. Soon there is a decision about my future that frightens me a lot. It could accelerate everything in warp speed. I might have to buy SN if it gets too serious for me.

 

[FreeAngel]

I have Borderline

Suicide rate: 5% to 10%
Self-injuries rate: 69% to 80%

 

[xLosthopex]

I'd say if I calculated the suicide probability of all my mental illnesses combined I'd be close enough to 100% lol
BPD- 10%
Anorexia- 20% (some suicide, some physical complications)
OCD- ?
Depression- ?
Autism- ?

 

[nolongerhuman]

The Link Between Suicide and Autism

The shocking truth about autism and suicide.

www.psychologytoday.com

I've seen several different studies on the suicide epidemic in the autistic populations of different countries and none of them exactly inspire optimism.

 

[suffocatingseraphim]

I have a few diagnosed disorders/ comorbidities so, there's a few percentages

here's what I've got:
Bipolar 2: 15-30%
OCD: around 43%(?) also listed to be 10 times more likely to die by suicide
ADHD: 0.02% success rate
Eating Disorder (anorexia/bulimia): 3-5%
PTSD: couldn't find the success rate, but attempt rate is 27%

The long and short of it, it's a recipe for disaster. I've already had about 3-4 attempts

 

[JustAMatterOfTime]

For autism I believe a 3 x higher rate than average for suicide and 28 x higher rate than average for suicidal thoughts.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

I'm afraid to get diagnosed for any potential illnesses I have beyond major depression and anxiety because I fear if it really turns out I have something like ADD or Asperger's or BPD I fear I would abuse these labels and start making excuses for myself (not saying anyone else who has these conditions acts this way, I just know for a fact that I would).

I don't know what the data is for the suicide rate among lonely men, though I'm a little suspicious of the homicide rate. I probably need to die before it gets that bad.

 

[TessB]

According to this article 70% of people with bpd will attempt and 10% succeed.

NYP-BPD-Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD)-Understanding BPD | NYP

Symptoms of BPD: People with BPD may experience these feelings in response to certain triggers. For example, they may see anger in someone else’s face, even though that person is not feeling that way, and have a stronger reaction to words with negative meanings than people who do not have BPD.

www.nyp.org

bdp really does feel like you're a burn victim emotionally which is why i tend to avoid people. Also the black and white thinking is horrible. And its very easy to get into something and take it to the extreme. At least in my case.

Oh my god yes same! The black and white thinking I mean. People are the best person in the world, I love them, then I hate them, they're evil and I block them. And I keep coming up with insane schemes that will make my fortune, spend loads of money and get all excited, then realise it's the biggest load of crap idea and dump it. Living with my mind is like letting someone off their face drunk drive your car while you are the passenger with no control over what happens.

I'm afraid to get diagnosed for any potential illnesses I have beyond major depression and anxiety because I fear if it really turns out I have something like ADD or Asperger's or BPD I fear I would abuse these labels and start making excuses for myself (not saying anyone else who has these conditions acts this way, I just know for a fact that I would).

I don't know what the data is for the suicide rate among lonely men, though I'm a little suspicious of the homicide rate. I probably need to die before it gets that bad.

This is so true. I think I do that with bpd like sometimes I do something and if I didn't have that diagnosis it would just simply be me being an asshole.. so then how do I know whether it's the bpd making me do these things or if I'm just a bit of a shitty person at times? So I just choose to say it's the bpd.. not sure it's always the truth though.

 

[suicidal257]

For autism I believe a 3 x higher rate than average for suicide and 28 x higher rate than average for suicidal thoughts.

I've found a study where 10x mortality from suicide was reported vs a control group.

 

[Sensei]

I suffer from bipolar disorder II. The most common estimate for bipolar disorder I've seen is 20 %, slightly higher for type II than type I. As far as I know no other group in society comes close to this. (Anorexia nervosa is the most lethal mental health condition, but not due to suicide.)

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

Autism: Around 35% attempt or have a plan, 7-9x more likely to die from suicide
PTSD: there's not a lot of data out there for this, but several studies have shown 27% attempt
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: Also not a lot of hard data, but 6x more likely to die from suicide, risk of attempt in some countries is 12.5% and in others studies have shown a whopping 26.8% attempt and succeed.
Chronic pain/fibromyalgia: 10x more likely to die of suicide. 16.7% attempt.
IBS: 5% attempt rate, not sure how many succeed in carrying it out.

Doing some math on the percentage of attempts, I calculated the probability of an attempted CTB attempt for someone with all my conditions, since we want to know if any of these attempted events would occur. Obviously will be imperfect, as most of the data I collected varies by country.

86.2% chance of attempted ctb if you add all these probabilities, since I want to know if I will ctb from any of these conditions.

 

[Downbylife]

2-5% as far as I see in the Internet

 

[Lucien]

I have a few diagnosed disorders/ comorbidities so, there's a few percentages

here's what I've got:
Bipolar 2: 15-30%
OCD: around 43%(?) also listed to be 10 times more likely to die by suicide
ADHD: 0.02% success rate
Eating Disorder (anorexia/bulimia): 3-5%
PTSD: couldn't find the success rate, but attempt rate is 27%

The long and short of it, it's a recipe for disaster. I've already had about 3-4 attempts

Having trouble believing the figure for OCD. If it's close to true it sounds like a death blow for any self-esteem the psychiatric system has left.

Edit: Came across this recently. "Groundbreaking surgery" sticks out as odd wording given the subject matter.

Twins with severe OCD die in possible ‘suicide pact’ — here’s how the illness affects health - National | Globalnews.ca

The sisters will be remembered for being kind, creative and intelligent. They were 33.

globalnews.ca

 

[shattered dreams]

I have fetal alcohol syndrome and found this. Average age of death is 34 and the #1 cause is suicide. The suicide rate is 15%.

Life Expectancy of People with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome - PubMed

The life expectancy of people with FAS is considerably lower than that of the general population. As the cause of FAS is known and preventable, more attention devoted to the prevention of FAS is urgently needed.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[RedRumThisLoser]

I was diagnosed schizoaffective and Google says the completed suicide rate of schizophrenia is 10%.

 

[Lucien]

Autism: Around 35% attempt or have a plan, 7-9x more likely to die from suicide
PTSD: there's not a lot of data out there for this, but several studies have shown 27% attempt
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: Also not a lot of hard data, but 6x more likely to die from suicide, risk of attempt in some countries is 12.5% and in others studies have shown a whopping 26.8% attempt and succeed.
Chronic pain/fibromyalgia: 10x more likely to die of suicide. 16.7% attempt.
IBS: 5% attempt rate, not sure how many succeed in carrying it out.

Doing some math on the percentage of attempts, I calculated the probability of an attempted CTB attempt for someone with all my conditions, since we want to know if any of these attempted events would occur. Obviously will be imperfect, as most of the data I collected varies by country.

86.2% chance of attempted ctb if you add all these probabilities, since I want to know if I will ctb from any of these conditions.

If you're just adding them together I don't see how you can extract anything meaningful. That's being very generous and considering the classification of these mental illnesses is correct (Based on what axioms I wonder?) and the methodology of their survey was excellent. When they update the DSM a couple of years from now they could just strike out Autism, OCD and PTSD and lump it under, oh I don't know, Neurotic Disagreeable Person Disorder. They might even get a raise for it.

 

[Carrotcake]

I honestly don't know for avoidant personality disorder. There is very little knowledge/research about this disorder. I guess because we all hide away from everything so no one is bothered by us/don't see the problem lol.

Chronic depression is probably a bit higher, but in general I'm a bit hesitant about these numbers and usually think the research is a bit subpar.

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

If you're just adding them together I don't see how you can extract anything meaningful. That's being very generous and considering the classification of these mental illnesses is correct (Based on what axioms I wonder?) and the methodology of their survey was excellent. When they update the DSM a couple of years from now they could just strike out Autism, OCD and PTSD and lump it under, oh I don't know, Neurotic Disagreeable Person Disorder. They might even get a raise for it.

Yes I agree, there's no real way to tell the true numbers. Considering psychiatry told me for years I was just a little depressed when I had glaring developmental issues and abnormal blood results (that they refused to test for till it was too late.)

Similar to how women who wanted to run away from their husbands were diagnosed with "hysteria" I believe a lot of these diagnoses will be thrown in the bin as empirical evidence proves certain things to be neurological and not psychological mental illnesses. Likewise, ptsd is a natural response to being abused and witnessing some of the worst horrors mankind has to offer.

They'd be far more accurate if they labeled it correctly and acknowledge the pain and fear stemming from it is a result of the worlds cruelty and not a "deficiet of psychology". You can't think your way out of ptsd, but they'd really like to make you think that so they can keep blaming you for your intrinsic response to trauma that is more often than not, somatic in nature.

 

[loopylou]

75% I think

 

[bad luck]

Alcoholism, depression, anxiety, times of agoraphobia, "peculiar" personality, IQ 120. (I think the smarter the more depression) I have seen very high percentages with my conditions and my social and precarious situation. Many traumas. You've really dated various things almost reaching 39 years old. With qualified professionals. I think in my case it could have a little more than 50%. I have had hypomanic moments but since they cannot be evaluated by a professional they are still off the list.

 

[suffocatingseraphim]

Having trouble believing the figure for OCD. If it's close to true it sounds like a death blow for any self-esteem the psychiatric system has left.

Edit: Came across this recently. "Groundbreaking surgery" sticks out as odd wording given the subject matter.

Twins with severe OCD die in possible ‘suicide pact’ — here’s how the illness affects health - National | Globalnews.ca

The sisters will be remembered for being kind, creative and intelligent. They were 33.

globalnews.ca

I was just reading that article in trying to find statistics! It's a sad read, but, I hope they're at peace.

I did think the "groundbreaking surgery" line was odd, it'll probably take a bit more digging around to find the actual figure for OCD haha.

If anything I do hope the percentage is kind of bogus in itself, given how debilitating OCD can be in itself- and how psychiatry handles it.

 

[WaterHemlock]

Just grabbed some numbers from google.
But to answer the question, I think lack of firm meaningful people connctions and hopelesness, problems with no good solutions... I'm too old to live on the street, too broken for new relationships or jobs.

Multiple sclerosis: 2.1 percent

Bipolar: "Researchers estimate that between 25% and 60% of individuals with bipolar disorder will attempt suicide at least once in their lives and between 4% and 19% will complete suicide"

Borderline personality :"Up to 10% of BPD patients will die by suicide."

Divorce- 2 percent

52 year old woman:
"In 2016, the Centers for Disease Control released the results of a study that found the rate at which women aged 45-64 committed suicide in 2014 had increased by 63% from 1999."

And air pollution: "... when up to 30 years of information for PM10, NO2, and SO2 was combined across all 10 cities, higher average exposures on the same day and over the previous 1–3 days were associated with a higher daily suicide risk."

I love what desolatexdevon said about emotional burn victims. That resonates with me so much

 

[Ramirez]

Bpd.my anger is so bad at times. I'm definitely in the 10 percent group. Just a matter of time. The sooner the less pain I'll spread.

 

[PDAnnie2610]

Same here. Borderline hurts.

 

[wait.what]

The only stat I know off the top of my head is that transmasculine people have a suicide attempt rate of 50%, which is fucking appalling. And no, before anyone asks, you can't "just stop" being trans, lol.

I just googled the suicide attempt rate for people with treatment-resistant depression, and apparently it's 30%. You can't "just stop" that either.