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- Apr 19, 2024
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Has anyone been in a psych ward here? How long can one be in there? What is it like? I've never been.
Damn thanks for this. Never been to one. I was just curious. Sounds like they're ran like a prison.It's necessary to differentiate between being voluntarily and involuntary inpatient and the psych ward itself (open or closed). If you are voluntarily in the psych ward, you are entitled to interrupt your stay even though your doctor may want you to stay longer. In an acute, closed station, stays are typically way shorter.
If you are involuntarily inpatient in a closed psych ward, the maximum duration of your stay there depends on your state's law. In Germany for example, you can either be sectioned by the law of your federal state or the one of your country; while your stay is limited to a few days with the first law, you can be forced to stay up to six weeks (with the possibility of a renewal) with the second law. I've experienced stays up to six weeks involuntarily twice but never an extension of that period of time.
Being there, especially in an acute, closed station, was never a "good" experience to me, but it extremely depends on the personnel working on that station.
If you think it might be helpful to get inpatient, I highly recommend visiting an open station before and try everything not to get inpatient in a closed station since there is a possibility of you being forced to stay there against your will.
Considering you're on a suicide website where almost everyone here is at risk of being thrown in one with one wrong move, I think it's a very valid thing to be curious about. If you're on this site, you're at risk for going to one. And they're a scary thing to thing about, whether you've been in one before or not. People ask questions to ease their anxiety. Asking about it on, I don't know, a gaming server or something might be morbid curiosity, but here it is fully valid. Asking about things isn't fetishising it?I get that you're curious but I actually fucken hate the morbid curiosity of people who have never been to a psych ward/of the less outwardly-crazy crazies to the crazy crazies who have been in wards. Also you're asking a really vague, general question that is based on individual experience — you won't receive a universal answer.
you see it all the time in eating disorder circles, ppl who have never been hospitalised fantasising about being locked up for the ~validity~ of it all. not saying that's what you're doing but I also don't get why people who have milder or less obvious or luckier cases obsess over what the more severe cases go through. it's obsessive & almost like people want to experience it or unduly think they "need" to be locked up, main character syndrome style, as with ED patients, even when they know that people mostly only tell horror stories from the ward — when on this website alone you can find heaps of people talking about their time in the psych ward, I just don't see the point in asking except for trying to put yourself there mentally for some weird escapist fantasy of being looked after or abused, either end of the spectrum.
Well, consider the patients. You've got people with severe behavioural dysfunction in society somewhere, they are struggling and they need help. They can do better but they don't have the skills to cope for whatever reason-- there are several and it's important to acknowledge the specifics but there's no patient ATM so just any reason.Damn thanks for this. Never been to one. I was just curious. Sounds like they're ran like a prison.
Well, consider the patients. You've got people with severe behavioural dysfunction in society somewhere, they are struggling and they need help. They can do better but they don't have the skills to cope for whatever reason-- there are several and it's important to acknowledge the specifics but there's no patient ATM so just any reason.
You've got people who will hurt themselves, although they do not want to. You've got people who could hurt others in the wrong scenario. People are delusional in the psych ward. They're there because their thoughts, beliefs and behaviours are causing serious harm to their lives.
So yeah, it's not a picnic. But it's not supposed to be. They don't torture you in there but if you're a danger to yourself or others you may be stabilised against your will, yes. Doctors are restricted from release at that point by their professional oaths and by legal repercussions.
This all makes sense. But consider a neighbour of mine. He thought he was dating Kim Kardashian and he gave all his money to a stranger on Instagram. Every day I'd tell him that's not Kim. He'd say he got a new picture of her. I'd google that exact same picture from her public insta, but he'd counter that she always posts the pics she shares. He couldn't function in society: the others apes were destroying him and the doctors were rotating medication and talking and talking and talking but if you send this man out while he's still totally delusional you might as well buy him a sleeping bag because he's insta-homeless. And he doesn't understand, yet. His delusions are reality.
So, it is a complicated situation. If you feel you could benefit, you should try medical treatment. How do you plan to CTB guilt free without trying to solve the problem other ways, first? Or are you going to approach the guilt as a facet of your survival instinct? Do as you wish, but don't slander hospital workers who are out there saving lives while we all commiserate on a suicide forum.
I don't think being on this site actually does mean anyone is at risk of being locked away at any time, just like I don't think having an eating disorder makes you at risk of the same, which is why I compare the two — it's the same mentality. Obsessing over & wanting to put yourself in the shoes of people that are currently sicker than you is What bothers me, under the guise of "just to be prepared" or "it's a possibility" idk more often then not leads to ppl fantasising about it in some way. 2014 b&w tumblr ring a bell? it was like 6000 girls with moderate depression wishing they were mentally ill enough to be Effy Stoneam or Cassie from skins, literally wishing to be locked in psych wards for the character development & the validation of their very real, but still moderate, mental anguish.Considering you're on a suicide website where almost everyone here is at risk of being thrown in one with one wrong move, I think it's a very valid thing to be curious about. If you're on this site, you're at risk for going to one. And they're a scary thing to thing about, whether you've been in one before or not. People ask questions to ease their anxiety. Asking about it on, I don't know, a gaming server or something might be morbid curiosity, but here it is fully valid. Asking about things isn't fetishising it?
Having depression doesn't immediately mean you're at risk for hospitalization, but you're gonna have a hell of a time convincing a therapist that you're not going to kill yourself if they find out you're spending your time on here. This post wasn't some girl on TikTok joking about how she thinks she needs a grippy sock vacay, it's someone asking genuine questions. Context is important. That's like saying asking a drug addict about their experience because you genuinely want to know what their life is like and get to know them better is you thinking drugs are cool and you want to take them.I don't think being on this site actually does mean anyone is at risk of being locked away at any time, just like I don't think having an eating disorder makes you at risk of the same, which is why I compare the two — it's the same mentality. Obsessing over & wanting to put yourself in the shoes of people that are currently sicker than you is What bothers me, under the guise of "just to be prepared" or "it's a possibility" idk more often then not leads to ppl fantasising about it in some way. 2014 b&w tumblr ring a bell? it was like 6000 girls with moderate depression wishing they were mentally ill enough to be Effy Stoneam or Cassie from skins, literally wishing to be locked in psych wards for the character development & the validation of their very real, but still moderate, mental anguish.
it's just something I've noticed. The fascination with the ward from people who have never been there, & how it turns to fantasies of being fixed or cared for, or the opposite, a death/abuse/downward spiral fantasy.
This site would be treated as a vulnerability at worst. More likely a problem behaviour. All a person needs to do is profess a desire for treatment.Having depression doesn't immediately mean you're at risk for hospitalization, but you're gonna have a hell of a time convincing a therapist that you're not going to kill yourself if they find out you're spending your time on here. This post wasn't some girl on TikTok joking about how she thinks she needs a grippy sock vacay, it's someone asking genuine questions. Context is important. That's like saying asking a drug addict about their experience because you genuinely want to know what their life is like and get to know them better is you thinking drugs are cool and you want to take them.
There's no context except this website, & I'm sorry but that's just not good enough context to say "this person is more acutely in danger of being taken to the psych ward than a girl on TikTok" — sorry but it's the same thing, in this instance. You're not more likely to end up in a psych ward for being on this site, even if you admit to it, you're likely to be admitted because of your actions, thoughts & words that happen around revealing you are on this site. This site doesn't automatically qualify you for a psych stay, nor does it even mean people are actively suicidal unless they say so.Having depression doesn't immediately mean you're at risk for hospitalization, but you're gonna have a hell of a time convincing a therapist that you're not going to kill yourself if they find out you're spending your time on here. This post wasn't some girl on TikTok joking about how she thinks she needs a grippy sock vacay, it's someone asking genuine questions. Context is important. That's like saying asking a drug addict about their experience because you genuinely want to know what their life is like and get to know them better is you thinking drugs are cool and you want to take them.
for real, if you could just be locked up for being on a website or saying you're suicidal, eventually nobody who is genuinely suicidal would ever visit this website for fear of that being true, but first we'd have thousands & thousands of people lined out the door, down streets & in ya mum's kitchen waiting for a bed in the psych ward if that were the caseThis site would be treated as a vulnerability at worst. More likely a problem behaviour. All a person needs to do is profess a desire for treatment.
If therapists really locked up all people for going to a website, they would run out of patients. I suspect most people with these worried have neither participated in therapy nor been in a psych ward trying to get out.
At least in most parts of the world, they certainly are. Depending on the type of ward, their goal is not treatment but to keep you "save from yourself".Damn thanks for this. Never been to one. I was just curious. Sounds like they're ran like a prison.
I mean, don't we already? At least in Germany, you sometimes have to wait months to get a bed in a ward. It's so bad that some people try to get admitted to a closed one because it's faster (though may still take weeks).but first we'd have thousands & thousands of people lined out the door, down streets & in ya mum's kitchen waiting for a bed in the psych ward if that were the case