Method What’s the consensus on SN without antiemetics?

[Blackroom_57]

Is it absolutely needed to have antiemetics for SN? I keep reading of people vomiting regardless.

 

[chr74]

any of these could happen, who can say which will apply to you:

- take AE which prevents vomit
- take AE and vomit anyway
- dont take AE and dont vomit
- dont take AE and vomit

 

[WonderfulWeatherDIE]

Not absolutely needed but the chance to vomit becomes significantly higher
Metoclopramide is recommended
Also fasting

Is it absolutely needed to have antiemetics for SN? I keep reading of people vomiting regardless.

 

[betternever2havbeen]

I have access to an antipsychotic (Quetiapine) but it's slow release and I don't normally take it, will this work as an AE? I know Stan's guide mentions it, but don't know if it'll work when you don't take it regularly.

 

[chr74]

i think with quetiapine you have to be on at least 200mg a day, im not sure how long you would need to be on that dose for

 

[Blackroom_57]

I have access to an antipsychotic (Quetiapine) but it's slow release and I don't normally take it, will this work as an AE? I know Stan's guide mentions it, but don't know if it'll work when you don't take it regularly.

I also have access to antipsychotics (latuda) but I am unsure if it will be a sufficient antiemetic. There seems to be no guidelines for how much to take and how soon before the SN.

any of these could happen, who can say which will apply to you:

- take AE which prevents vomit
- take AE and vomit anyway
- dont take AE and dont vomit
- dont take AE and vomit

Well yea but my questions is if the antiemetic helps in any way and if so will it help make it more likely that I will die.

 

[blackwidow92]

I'm wondering the same thing as I'm having trouble getting hold of meto. Stan's guide says olanzipine can be used as an AE (I'm on it as a regular medication) but doesn't specify the amount needed. I think without it you're more likely to vomit

 

[Blackroom_57]

I'm wondering the same thing as I'm having trouble getting hold of meto. Stan's guide says olanzipine can be used as an AE (I'm on it as a regular medication) but doesn't specify the amount needed. I think without it you're more likely to vomit

Yeah I'm confused as to whether or not you can just take a stat dose or if this is a thing where you have to be on the medication for many months in order for the anti emetic effects to work

 

[roadtogo]

Guide to dosage of Quetiapine (Seroquel) required as an antiemetic for the SN method

Dear All, To answer the question about using Quetiapine (Seroquel) as an antiemetic for the SN method, I am often referring people back to a mishmash of my various posts and responses from others. To make this less confusing, I'm going to collate my opinions here. It also begins with a basic...

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[that smell]

They're not necessary, people have ctb without them. Benzos are weak antiemetics which I think some people have used instead. It probably just depends on individual sensitivity. Fasting to make sure you have nothing in your system beforehand is definitely helpful too.

 

[Mäximum]

Not absolutely needed but the chance to vomit becomes significantly higher
Metoclopramide is recommended
Also fasting

Do you know for how long you need to fast?

 

[WonderfulWeatherDIE]

Do you know for how long you need to fast?

Read the sn megathread method guide

 

[FacePALM]

Wait is Quetiapine an anti emetic?

 

[MrShino]

Also wonder about the Olanzapine regiment and how effective it is.

 

[roadtogo]

Guide to dosage of Quetiapine (Seroquel) required as an antiemetic for the SN method

Dear All, To answer the question about using Quetiapine (Seroquel) as an antiemetic for the SN method, I am often referring people back to a mishmash of my various posts and responses from others. To make this less confusing, I'm going to collate my opinions here. It also begins with a basic...

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[betternever2havbeen]

Thanks for the link-just what I was looking for, some good info there but am gutted you have to be on it a while to build up the effects. I only have a couple from a relative who takes it (they gave me some they had spare since they don't take it regularly and they don't know what I'm using for obviously) and I don't really wanna ask for more or take it for long. I was so chuffed when I found out antipsychotics can work as AE but this is a bit of a blow

 

[roadtogo]

Natural antiemetic ''drugs''

I know they exist but I don't know which one will work better with SN. I've been told that Raw ginger works as nausea and vomiting blocker but I would love to know if it will work. (sorry for my mediocre english).

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@betternever2havbeen

 

[soontobedone]

Do you know for how long you need to fast?

Good to read guide.. ideally 8 hours on water only plus 2 hours of no water. (Except what you need for pills).

 

[roadtogo]

Post in thread 'my plan' https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/my-plan.51403/post-934651

Just completed my blood test on SN and it looks good. Thinking about CTB tonight if I find myself at the "end of my rope" so to speak pending some results today.

I'm also going to be taking ginger as an antiemetic and famotidine as an H2 blocker. I've done some research into ginger, and some papers have recently come out that shows it has a central dopamine blocking effect at the 18 hr mark. It has about the same effect as metoclopramide in preventing nausea and vomiting in cancer patients (which causes central vomiting) according to some studies. According to other studies, if taken in combination with another anti-emetic, it can actually make it worse. The ginger responds in a dose-dependent way, which means that the optimal dose is around 1g according to cancer studies. In their study they started 3 days prior, which I may or may not do.

Ginger (Zingiber officinale) reduces acute chemotherapy-induced nausea: a URCC CCOP study of 576 patients - PubMed

Ginger supplementation at a daily dose of 0.5 g-1.0 g significantly aids in reduction of the severity of acute chemotherapy-induced nausea in adult cancer patients.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Effect of Gingerol on Cisplatin-Induced Pica Analogous to Emesis Via Modulating Expressions of Dopamine 2 Receptor, Dopamine Transporter and Tyrosine Hydroxylase in the Vomiting Model of Rats

Gingerol, the generic term for pungent constituents in ginger, has been used for treating vomiting in China. We are going to investigate the mechanisms of inhibitive effect of gingerol on cisplatin-induced pica behaviour by studying on both peripheral ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The Effectiveness of Ginger in the Prevention of Nausea and Vomiting during Pregnancy and Chemotherapy

The rhizomes of Zingiber officinale (ginger) have been used since ancient times as a traditional remedy for gastrointestinal complaints. The most active ingredients in ginger are the pungent principles, particularly gingerols and shogaols. Various preclinical ...

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I've been reluctant to talk about this because the last thing I want is to influence someone to CTB when they are on the fence. I don't want to have anyone else's death be influenced by me. But these are the results I've found, and I think it's worth discussing.

 

[FireWalkWithMe]

Problem is you ask for a consensus but what is the consensus you will get? That's worth pondering.

Mostly a consensus of conjecture and hearsay most likely. Not science or statistics to evidence a point. That's not to point fingers, it's just unfortunate but this stuff isn't well studied. Nobody can tell you a 1000 people took a defined quantity of SN with and without AEs and here are the results.

What I can say to you is there is a guide, SN is a poison which your body will try to reject in some format, and anti emetics are proven to reduce vomiting. So you can really take that info and then it's up to you. You can't really outsource your own critical thinking or attitude to risk on this.

 

[betternever2havbeen]

@roadtogo thank you this looks promising if I can't get hold of meto.

 

[roadtogo]

Ya, definitely adhere to the guides. I was just showing results in my searches in case I can't locate an ae.

 

[diyCTB]

How to Ingest SN without throwing up?

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[Days_are_numbered]

sorry, I feel a bit of an idiot for asking this but I am new to the site so I'm not familiar with the abbreviations yet. What is SN?