Help What now?

[Jai]

All my plans for November's almost foolproof plan to top myself are out the window.

I contracted an illness out of the blue was in hospital for 2 months this basically stopped my set up to kill myself time and money were major factors as I already had set up my plan.

So dije to my illness \condition I'm physically compromised I'm in immense pain even with meds can't stand nevermind walk and I'm wheelchair bound and have no feeling in my legs or arms no resources now and almost totally reliable on other people and can't at this point really leave the apt so apart from using a knife or going into traffic anyone have any genuine sensible methods ? Merry Xmas and thanks

 

[TAW122]

I really don't know much and this is a situation that I've always feared myself to be in (similar to being a vegetable). However, I'm wondering if you are able to VSED (Voluntarily Stop Eating and Drinking) and then die from there? If you also have an advanced directive or somehow have a living will set up, maybe you could do that before you lose your cognitive functions. Furthermore, if there is a way to get the hospital off the hook (they are mandated to keep people alive which sucks) legally speaking via a lawyer or petition to court (or w/e legal process is involved), then also consider doing that. I don't know what else I could recommend or suggest, but given your predicaments and limitations, I think those are better options than using a knife or going into traffic (both of which are really painful and the latter, hurting others and may not even end up dead necessarily.).

 

[Purgatory]

All my plans for November's almost foolproof plan to top myself are out the window.

I contracted an illness out of the blue was in hospital for 2 months this basically stopped my set up to kill myself time and money were major factors as I already had set up my plan.

So dije to my illness \condition I'm physically compromised I'm in immense pain even with meds can't stand nevermind walk and I'm wheelchair bound and have no feeling in my legs or arms no resources now and almost totally reliable on other people and can't at this point really leave the apt so apart from using a knife or going into traffic anyone have any genuine sensible methods ? Merry Xmas and thanks

OMG. So sorry for your condition. That makes things difficult. Everything I can think of requires at least some mobility (and being alone).

Since you rely on others for mobility, best I can think of is hanging. Full suspension recommended, partial if you cannot manage a full. See the many threads here for details on those.

That really sucks, the position you are in. Maybe someone else has a better idea for you.

Peace to you.

 

[onewayroad]

OMG. So sorry for your condition. That makes things difficult. Everything I can think of requires at least some mobility (and being alone).

Since you rely on others for mobility, best I can think of is hanging. Full suspension recommended, partial if you cannot manage a full. See the many threads here for details on those.

That really sucks, the position you are in. Maybe someone else has a better idea for you.

Peace to you.

Yeah, I agree with all of this.

 

[Retched]

I'm so sorry to read your story. I hope that you can find a way. I pmed ya, but I know my question now is out of your possibility.

 

[TheCrow]

All my plans for November's almost foolproof plan to top myself are out the window.

I contracted an illness out of the blue was in hospital for 2 months this basically stopped my set up to kill myself time and money were major factors as I already had set up my plan.

So dije to my illness \condition I'm physically compromised I'm in immense pain even with meds can't stand nevermind walk and I'm wheelchair bound and have no feeling in my legs or arms no resources now and almost totally reliable on other people and can't at this point really leave the apt so apart from using a knife or going into traffic anyone have any genuine sensible methods ? Merry Xmas and thanks

I have to use a walker/wheelchair, too, and also can't stand or leave my apt. I'm doing the nitrogen/exit bag method. I had everything for the exit bag shipped to me from Amazon, I got the nitrogen regulator from max dog (yes, yes, insanely overpriced, and idgaf, but you can totally buy something cheaper also online and have it shipped to you), and I'm going to have a nitrogen tank shipped to me from cyberweld (I live in the states) next month.

 

[Retched]

I have to use a walker/wheelchair, too, and also can't stand or leave my apt. I'm doing the nitrogen/exit bag method. I had everything for the exit bag shipped to me from Amazon, I got the nitrogen regulator from max dog (yes, yes, insanely overpriced, and idgaf, but you can totally buy something cheaper also online and have it shipped to you), and I'm going to have a nitrogen tank shipped to me from cyberweld (I live in the states) next month.

Do they ship it full of nitrogen already? I thought that had to be filled elsewhere? I'm confused on that part...I would totally order if it would be shipped full, though IDK how to get around other people knowing what it was...

 

[TheCrow]

Do they ship it full of nitrogen already? I thought that had to be filled elsewhere? I'm confused on that part...I would totally order if it would be shipped full, though IDK how to get around other people knowing what it was...

Do you live in the States? Cyberweld has the option to ship it to you filled, yes. Yes, I too am a little worried about other people wondering about the package. From what I found, the box it arrives in is 18 inches tall and weighs 18 lbs. I plan to ctb the day it arrives literally shortly after it arrives because I don't want to deal with any follow-up suspicion once I can get it into my apt.

 

[Kdawg2018]

Do they ship it full of nitrogen already? I thought that had to be filled elsewhere? I'm confused on that part...I would totally order if it would be shipped full, though IDK how to get around other people knowing what it was...

You can get it shipped full. The only way I see to conceal it is if you are planning on welding. That's why ppl had used Helium (as long as pure) because you could say you had it for party balloons, etc

 

[TheCrow]

You can get it shipped full. The only way I see to conceal it is if you are planning on welding. That's why ppl had used Helium (as long as pure) because you could say you had it for party balloons, etc

Yes, welding is good! It can be used on old cars as a hobby? A friend's hobby? Can be used to seal expensive cans of paint? I've also heard it's used to flash freeze (is that the right term?) vegetables. Depending on how the box is labeled, I'm either going to say that my friend works on classic cars and works during the day and asked if he could ship it to my apt bc he knew I'd be home —OR—if it just appears that there's a tank in a box without specifying, I might say that I'm going to start using oxygen (I'm in a wheelchair, blah blah, sickness). If there's no indication that it's a tank of gas, I'm going to act surprised and say my friend said she was sending me a gift and be all, "Whoa, I wonder what this is!"

 

[onewayroad]

Do they ship it full of nitrogen already? I thought that had to be filled elsewhere? I'm confused on that part...I would totally order if it would be shipped full, though IDK how to get around other people knowing what it was...

In Australia you can get full canisters of nitrogen or argon delivered from BOC gases. You can also buy full argon canisters from hardware stores.

Yes, welding is good! It can be used on old cars as a hobby? A friend's hobby? Can be used to seal expensive cans of paint? I've also heard it's used to flash freeze (is that the right term?) vegetables. Depending on how the box is labeled, I'm either going to say that my friend works on classic cars and works during the day and asked if he could ship it to my apt bc he knew I'd be home —OR—if it just appears that there's a tank in a box without specifying, I might say that I'm going to start using oxygen (I'm in a wheelchair, blah blah, sickness). If there's no indication that it's a tank of gas, I'm going to act surprised and say my friend said she was sending me a gift and be all, "Whoa, I wonder what this is!"

Most common reasons so best excuses are: Nitrogen - "I'm using it for homebrewing beer", Argon - "I'm using it for welding aluminium".

 

[Jai]

OMG. So sorry for your condition. That makes things difficult. Everything I can think of requires at least some mobility (and being alone).

Since you rely on others for mobility, best I can think of is hanging. Full suspension recommended, partial if you cannot manage a full. See the many threads here for details on those.

That really sucks, the position you are in. Maybe someone else has a better idea for you.

Peace to you.

Appreciate the reply my friend

 

[Jai]

I'm so sorry to read your story. I hope that you can find a way. I pmed ya, but I know my question now is out of your possibility.

Not entirely mate recovery will take time but it's coming later rather then sooner unfortunately I replied to your PM

 

[Jai]

I have to use a walker/wheelchair, too, and also can't stand or leave my apt. I'm doing the nitrogen/exit bag method. I had everything for the exit bag shipped to me from Amazon, I got the nitrogen regulator from max dog (yes, yes, insanely overpriced, and idgaf, but you can totally buy something cheaper also online and have it shipped to you), and I'm going to have a nitrogen tank shipped to me from cyberweld (I live in the states) next month.

Thanks for your reply and I feel for you and have total sympathy now I'm dealing with it hopefully mine is temporary

 

[TheCrow]

Thanks for your reply and I feel for you and have total sympathy now I'm dealing with it hopefully mine is temporary

Thank you. I also hope your situation isn't permanent. The docs can't stop the pain? Have they gotten to the root of it, or are they just throwing pain killers at you? Maybe you need to see a specialist? My primary care physician was useless & so were meds until I saw a neurologist & got a nerve blocker. Are you smoking weed? You should be smoking weed.

 

[Jai]

Thank you. I also hope your situation isn't permanent. The docs can't stop the pain? Have they gotten to the root of it, or are they just throwing pain killers at you? Maybe you need to see a specialist? My primary care physician was useless & so were meds until I saw a neurologist & got a nerve blocker. Are you smoking weed? You should be smoking weed.

Funny my cousin has been hammering me about smoking weed certainly an option.
Basically the docs said there was no more they can do and it's a case of pain management and physio and it's time that will determine any recovery if I do recover could be soon or years or never they did come to the consensus I contracted a syndrome but couldn't understand fully why I'm in chronic pain so that has put in doubt parts of their diagnosis but all the research I do doesn't point to anything else . I'm on some pretty strong meds fentanyl ixycodone nueronton but it's limited relief I'm starting to lose function in my hands too which is scary.

Thanks for your input I appreciate your words and if anything I hope your issues medically improve in any way happy new year friend take care good luck Godspeed

 

[IfHeDiesHeDies]

Funny my cousin has been hammering me about smoking weed certainly an option.
Basically the docs said there was no more they can do and it's a case of pain management and physio and it's time that will determine any recovery if I do recover could be soon or years or never they did come to the consensus I contracted a syndrome but couldn't understand fully why I'm in chronic pain so that has put in doubt parts of their diagnosis but all the research I do doesn't point to anything else . I'm on some pretty strong meds fentanyl ixycodone nueronton but it's limited relief I'm starting to lose function in my hands too which is scary.

Thanks for your input I appreciate your words and if anything I hope your issues medically improve in any way happy new year friend take care good luck Godspeed

Can't u od on the pain meds?

 

[Jai]

Can't u od on the pain meds?

Not a chance mate not enough to do in one go they give me small amounts per prescription/refill at best I'd have 60 oxys 10 fentanyl patches don't believe that would suffice to go but it had crossed my mind