What motivates you to CTB? Social networks? The multinationals? Capitalism? Disabilities? Shitty parents? Your country? Unjust laws?

[disabledlife]

Who wants (be forced to) CTB because of social networks, injustices, multinationals, humans, birth inequalities,...?

I give you my points of view and what pushes me to CTB.

I want CTB because I was mistreated young, and I was never able to obtain justice, because of my country, the worst in the world, a judicial paradise in reality, corrupt, which has always defended the thugs, burglars, rapists, abusive parents...

I want CTB because, when injustices happened to me in stores, transport, administrations, places, mishaps on the internet, scams..., when I gave my opinions on the internet, my opinions were censored, without possibility of recourse, because big tech are multinationals who don't care about people, who are treated like dogs.

I want CTB because of social networks, which make people narcissistic, people who easily ghost without recourse, who filter comments, can censor, ban, etc., whoever they want, in contempt of the freedom of expression (on Facebook, Instagram, X (Twitter), YouTube, reviews on Google, Twitch, TikTok, Snapshat...). Social networks that allow people to be grouped together but exclude anyone as they see fit. Like school bullying where, in a school playground, there were students rejected by others, and harassed, social networks are a schoolyard, but everywhere!

I want CTB because I no longer support the injustices linked to capitalism and private property, not everyone is lucky enough to be born to owner parents, to have inheritances, to have a good education , good health, a beautiful body, to be tall.

You will tell me, rightly, it is true, that poverty affects a very large part of the population, and that it is reassuring that we are far from being alone in this situation! However, disability, ugliness, crappy health, for example, which is even more unfair, affects a small part of the population, a very great injustice, allowed by the worst parents in the world, aware of having voluntarily created sick children, for their selfish needs, to have children, for the sake of having children, to receive generous allowances as my country allows. Eugenics was banned, and it's a real shame, because I could have simply avoided existing, thank you the Nazis for doing everything to destroy eugenics with their shitty racial ideology, their pseudo-hopes -scientist, the Nazis destroyed a lot of things anyway, all over the world, created a new post-war world order, much worse than in the past! Now, many more people have the misfortune of being born disabled, and seek to CTB, victims of harassment, rejection, etc., including by their own families!

I want CTB, because I can't change my last name, first name, body, DNA, my past...

I want CTB because I'm tired of rejection, of being banned by others on social networks, of being looked down upon, with a contemptuous look, of being stared at, of being ignored. never say hello to me, to be alone, to not be able to take legal action, because all the facts are prescribed, that the sanctions simply do not exist, my country is a shitty country!!!! It's simply the worst country of being an anti-natalist, because you make lots of enemies!!!!!

 

[AInilam]

This is basically my exact reasoning as well. It sucks because the potential for a far better, happier and more just world and society was there--but instead we settle for this. It isn't fair, I never asked to be apart of it but I can choose to abandon it altogether.

 

[smeltingtheiron]

I agree with all of your points, they pretty much cover the exact reasons I want to ctb as well.

 

[disabledlife]

Christmas, the New Year is approaching, and I know that not everyone is going to enjoy these holidays, there are going to be lonely people, rejected people, who are not going to have gifts, love from their loved ones, caring people , etc., and who will have to endure these festivals, and to see, cry, people, in good health, well born, etc., who will take advantage of these unjust festivals, eat well, gain weight, etc., complain about having gained too much weight... being spoiled with generous gifts... even if recent crises and inflations (wars, limited resources, embargoes...) can reduce these "happiness". I would have preferred to ban these parties, as long as everyone, without exception, does not benefit from them!

I had tried to disappear voluntarily, to go abroad, to another country which is the enemy of my country, without any diplomatic link with my country, where everything is totally independent of my country, no links, partnerships, businesses , businesses, etc., with my country, leaving for good!

I had tried to learn another language, never to speak my native language again, to destroy everything that made up my identity, all my possessions, my identity papers...

I had tried to find a country that allowed me to legally change my identity, surnames, first names, etc., retake all my school diplomas, as if I had never learned in my country of origin, reinvent a story as a orphan, to have new papers, passports, etc. As if my parents or my country had never existed.

I had tried to change my sex, have cosmetic surgery, etc., to forget my origins.

But now, my health has decided otherwise, making me totally dependent on my shitty country of origin, which has deliberately created disabled people, notably to serve as sheep for big pharma, which is why I refuse to be treated!! !!!

My country has made me a prisoner in my body, a wreck falling apart, and a prisoner of my shitty country!!!!!!!

I dream of either CTB, certainly peacefully, but in such a way as to shock as many people as possible, to make them understand that bad parents must be prohibited from having children.

Or, I dream of disappearing voluntarily, just to have a "happy" end of life, before CTB.

In addition to the wish to have free access to peaceful CTB (N, SN, etc., without restrictions), assisted suicide and euthanasia without conditions, at any time, to anyone who requests it, I would also, truly, wished for the return of eugenics, for the good of all unborn people!

Indeed, as no one asked to be born, it would be really unfair to allow shitty parents to inflict handicaps, ugliness, shitty bodies, mistreatment, rape, etc., on these people who didn't ask for anything. , and who will undoubtedly suffer mistreatment, rejection, exclavation, from their own parents, families, school friends...!

This is true freedom, no longer having inequalities, injustices, hope for tomorrow, no suffering, loving parents, surrounded by caring people, a fulfilled life...

 

[HollowDrop]

I feel trapped within my own body, not in a physical sense but in the sense that my mind is driving me insane by the minute. This increasing mental instability is motivating me to CTB. I want a way out, I want it to end. Everything hurts and I'm tired.

 

[MatrixPrisoner]

I want CTB because of social networks, which make people narcissistic

I am so relieved to know this bothers other people as much as it bothers me. I am so effing sick of living in a world where people not only tolerate shit like this, but also applaud and encourage it:



Society has competely gone to shit.

 

[Abyssal]

While I could explain all the shit that brought me to this point, there's one thing that has pushed me to really want to ctb: Knowing it won't get better.

Think about it, if you don't do anything you'll be forced to continue this life. I don't want to live, I haven't wanted to live since I was 8, why would that change?

That's how I've been able to beat SI in the past, so it counts for something.

 

[tidal1]

Wow, I really don't have a super grand reason like most folks.

Honestly, despite all the health issues I have, what has been worse has always been feeling disposable or even replaceable to other people. Loneliness can ruin your soul and even your psyche in a way that people not experiencing it won't understand.

 

[tvoisluga]

When things were most looking up this one thing kept me suicidal. The perishability of the human body. I dont wanna risk getting too old, beddridden, demented and just a crazy old grandma that makes her family's life hell.
Thats why ive researched peak physical performance age for people assigned female at birth and it goes downhill after 30-40ish. And yeah there are some people well in their 60s in good health but lets be real im not the one with such healthy lifestyle and even if i was, dementia or alzheimer could still strike me. Plus no way i wouldnt experience pain and be super mobile at like 90 being real. And my familys women have very long lifespans.

 

[Burden_Bailey]

Being a burden. I wanna die so my family doesn't have to suffer with me anymore. Also, I deserve to die, even if it is bad for me. I don't even care if it will get better. I deserve this. I haven't seen many who share my reason.

 

[Trakehner]

Right now, loneliness and being ostracized is the main driving factor. In addition to this, I have no desire to live in a shallow, capitalist society where I will be a slave for decades.

 

[SoulCage]

While I could explain all the shit that brought me to this point, there's one thing that has pushed me to really want to ctb: Knowing it won't get better.

Think about it, if you don't do anything you'll be forced to continue this life. I don't want to live, I haven't wanted to live since I was 8, why would that change?

That's how I've been able to beat SI in the past, so it counts for something.

Exactly this.

Even though OP's reasons are also my reasons, I already tried achieving happiness with selfish methods and it still didn't work out. 10+ years as an adult, I tried jobs, relationships, travel, consume and still... It either overwhelmed me or just had no impact. Many years of experience are evidence that it doesn't matter how hard I try. It won't get better.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I want to CTB / must consider CTB bc I'm not able to generate enough money for a good life anymore due to failure and other circumstances like no skills, age and so on. What a "good life" is, is subjective.

I'm hopeless but have not fully given up. Maybe a miracle is happening in 2024.

 

[AMATERASU :-)]

capitalism + irrational abusive family

 

[IWishToDie]

Who wants (be forced to) CTB because of social networks, injustices, multinationals, humans, birth inequalities,...?

I give you my points of view and what pushes me to CTB.

I want CTB because I was mistreated young, and I was never able to obtain justice, because of my country, the worst in the world, a judicial paradise in reality, corrupt, which has always defended the thugs, burglars, rapists, abusive parents...

I want CTB because, when injustices happened to me in stores, transport, administrations, places, mishaps on the internet, scams..., when I gave my opinions on the internet, my opinions were censored, without possibility of recourse, because big tech are multinationals who don't care about people, who are treated like dogs.

I want CTB because of social networks, which make people narcissistic, people who easily ghost without recourse, who filter comments, can censor, ban, etc., whoever they want, in contempt of the freedom of expression (on Facebook, Instagram, X (Twitter), YouTube, reviews on Google, Twitch, TikTok, Snapshat...). Social networks that allow people to be grouped together but exclude anyone as they see fit. Like school bullying where, in a school playground, there were students rejected by others, and harassed, social networks are a schoolyard, but everywhere!

I want CTB because I no longer support the injustices linked to capitalism and private property, not everyone is lucky enough to be born to owner parents, to have inheritances, to have a good education , good health, a beautiful body, to be tall.

You will tell me, rightly, it is true, that poverty affects a very large part of the population, and that it is reassuring that we are far from being alone in this situation! However, disability, ugliness, crappy health, for example, which is even more unfair, affects a small part of the population, a very great injustice, allowed by the worst parents in the world, aware of having voluntarily created sick children, for their selfish needs, to have children, for the sake of having children, to receive generous allowances as my country allows. Eugenics was banned, and it's a real shame, because I could have simply avoided existing, thank you the Nazis for doing everything to destroy eugenics with their shitty racial ideology, their pseudo-hopes -scientist, the Nazis destroyed a lot of things anyway, all over the world, created a new post-war world order, much worse than in the past! Now, many more people have the misfortune of being born disabled, and seek to CTB, victims of harassment, rejection, etc., including by their own families!

I want CTB, because I can't change my last name, first name, body, DNA, my past...

I want CTB because I'm tired of rejection, of being banned by others on social networks, of being looked down upon, with a contemptuous look, of being stared at, of being ignored. never say hello to me, to be alone, to not be able to take legal action, because all the facts are prescribed, that the sanctions simply do not exist, my country is a shitty country!!!! It's simply the worst country of being an anti-natalist, because you make lots of enemies!!!!!

CTB is for people in pain and suffering, you shouldn't wish for things like eugenics.

What are you complaining about? Social media? Just stop using it. Absolutely horrible to support eugenics. Everyone gets a chance at life, everyone should get the chance to die. If that's what you believe behind all of your rage and misdirection, then I would agree with you.

A doctor told my mother to kill my sister before she was born because she would be disabled, my mother didn't listen. Guess what? The doctor made a mistake, my sister is happy and healthy. Eugenics is disgusting and you should feel bad. I would tell you to be a man but you sound 16. You shouldn't even be here. You sound ugly on the inside before any of your superficial problems.

Not everyone who is disabled is in pain and suffering, the people that are disabled AND suffering should have access to assisted suicide. My aunty is disabled and she lives a bloody good life, she is happy. She doesn't have the physical pain that I do but according to your eugenics she should have been MURDERED without CHANCE to live. Shame on you. You have completely missed the pro-choice argument because of your personal tragedy.

This isn't a eugenics forum, this is a forum for adults who are suffering and have genuinely hit rock bottom. You sound just like a pro-lifer on the other side of the coin, irrational and emotional. I'm sure you would be happy if all the happy people died with you, right?

If nobody says hello to you, maybe try become somebody who saying hello to is worth something. Grow up @disabledlife

If a mod sees this, please read the whole post. No rules broken. Cheers.

 

[disabledlife]

I hesitated to answer. I would have preferred not to talk about eugenics, but given what I and many people have suffered, my disabled friends in particular, many of my friends already on CTB, in horrible suffering, I was obliged to talk about it. .

I was expecting a message like that. So, for you, I don't even have the right to express myself on eugenics, it must remain taboo. I am disabled and I suffered because of it, from my parents, I would have preferred to never be born or preferred to be born healthy.

I thought that here, on this forum, I could express myself without censorship, have kindness, which is the case so far, and thank you to the community in general, but I ended up coming across this message.

Because of my disabilities, I was harassed, rejected, discriminated against, etc., and yet, my parents knew very well that their children were going to be disabled, but yet, they decided to do so, to procreate, no luck for Me!

I am absolutely not pro-life, I want everyone to have the choice to leave life as they see fit, regardless of their state of health, reasons, etc. If eugenics is not possible, at least we can have the choice, at any time, to leave, BTC, benefit from euthanasia, from assisted suicide, without having to justify ourselves. But here too, it is not won, there are still people to judge the CTB, insult, punish...

Go tell disabled people, who would have preferred not to be born disabled, that because of their disabilities, who do not have the right to this or that profession, to access their dreams, are discriminated against, suffer mockery,. . who are deprived of seeing, deprived of hearing, deprived of dressing as they want, deprived of access to certain places, etc., that it is the fault of bad luck, that the parents are perfect, that we must applaud them for having given them birth, life... I have heard sentences like that, which have made me angry, for decades of my existence.

In addition, we must not forget that nature is cruel, disabled people are already discriminated against, rejected, in love, in finding their partners, in starting a family,... and this can be seen all over the world, in At this moment, it's no better than eugenics, so... We are not in a world of care bears.

It is not because some people are happy to live disabled (and good for them, I am not saying the opposite), deprived of everything, discriminated against, etc., etc., that it is absolutely necessary to create other disabled people. , tell them that they absolutely must live to be happy too. I hear these phrases all the time, it annoys me to hear it, and I'm not the only one.

I am part of an association for disabled people, and many members share my opinion, they too would have preferred not to be born, resent their parents, have cut ties with their families (if it is not their families altogether who rejected them, kicked them out when they came of age, had them forcibly hospitalized in psychiatry...). It's not a pretty sight, when the end-of-year holidays come for example (Christmas, New Year, which they will spend alone, isolated, with no one caring, and end up in CTB, by their choice of course , but forced by the situation). I have known many who had CTB in a violent way, because of their health, rejections...!

The confinements following covid-19 have killed lots of disabled people, no one came to see them, not even their families, caregivers, carers, ... and they died by force, unable to live independently, natural deaths , but cruel. I was shocked to see this even in countries that call themselves developed, rich...

We tried to live in countries (note that not all countries are as open to differences) that promote accessibility, the inclusion of all different people, disabled people, LGBT foreigners, and what not, punish discrimination , but, unfortunately society has never changed!

The mentality never opened up, much to the chagrin of all the different people, especially the disabled. Worse still, social networks, the internet, have worsened intolerance, harassment, meanness, insults...

Paradoxically, several decades ago (the 80s for example), in a more closed world, but without social networks, less accessible, etc., different people lived better, were less harassed, ... even if it was not the ideal.

It's sad to say, but, in this society, despite millennia of existence of the human species, of evolutions, ..., it is better not to be born different, disabled, autistic. And it is not me who created the human species, nor society, I was simply born into it, and I simply endure my life, the others. I'm far from the only one to say this. I prefer to stop there.

In short, I'm not going to dwell on it. Everyone has their own opinion on eugenics. When I leave this life, I hope to never be born again, never again, I have suffered too much, I have been deprived of studies, deprived of a healthy life, tired of seeing others succeed while I remain alone, isolated, suffering, in short...

Sorry to anyone I offended, I wish it were different. I apologize anyway!

 

[PoorYorick]

@disabledlife I find it very interesting what you write. Despite I am new, I guess this is the right place to say things that are unaccepted in the real world. And such things will always make someone angry. Thanks for sharing this. You say much about the country without mentioning its name. I am really curious what country it is. Can you reveal it? If not, maybe PM?

 

[divinemistress36]

Treatment resistant major depression. And brain injury

 

[disabledlife]

I forgot to specify, in response to "what are you complaining about, using social networks? Don't use them!". Even if I don't use social networks, lots of people can make fun of me on social networks. It is practically impossible to live without social networks, applications, the internet. Everything is done on the internet, especially social networks, such as steps to find a job, study, play store competitions, teleworking, and even administrative procedures, contacting an after-sales service, traveling. Gone are the days when there was still the possibility of contacting by mail, telephone calls, going to a store to have objects repaired without registering on the internet, working on site... It's the same for mobile phone, even made compulsory since the covid19 crisis. Unless you live as a hermit, in the middle of nature, in an undeveloped country... it's simply time that has evolved, for the worse unfortunately, especially for young people, children, where they are taught to live with technology only. Furthermore, schools teach less and less mental arithmetic, languages, history, etc., replaced by internet research, even in primary school. It's frightening. I have seen children not knowing how to open a book, cell phones given to babies in strollers.

 

[sserafim]

I have no desire to live in a shallow, capitalist society where I will be a slave for decades.

Same! I'd rather die