Sixfeetunder

Sixfeetunder

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Say if you have the regulator, hose, properly made bag, and a 20 cubic feet tank of welding grade nitrogen or argon.
 
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EddieAllenPoe

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I don't believe they've conducted any studies which could answer your question. I believe if you successfully manage to cut off all oxygen to your body that you could expect 100% success.
 
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Jayxtri

Jayxtri

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Yes, if done correctly
 
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Sixfeetunder

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Thanks guys. I just want to succeed this time...
 
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Snee

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sleeping pils + exit bag will this work or faild
 
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TiredHorse

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In theory, 100% success. The big variable that theory does not account for, of course, is survival instinct. There's no predicting how badly that'll kick in.
 
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Longman

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sleeping pils + exit bag will this work or faild
I've read somewhere on this forum (maybe in "Inert gas megathread") that this method is reliable only with barbiturates, because ordinary sleeping pills do not turn off your motor system (so you can interrupt the process even being unconsciousness).
 
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Sixfeetunder

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I'll combine this with SN just in case.
 
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retarddd

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I've read somewhere on this forum (maybe in "Inert gas megathread") that this method is reliable only with barbiturates, because ordinary sleeping pills do not turn off your motor system (so you can interrupt the process even being unconsciousness).
doesnt Nitrogen turn off your urge to rip the bag off, it isnt like Co2
 
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TiredHorse

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sleeping pils + exit bag will this work or faild
Technically --technically-- yes, you can use an exit bag without inert gas, with heavy doses of sleeping pills. That approach was more common before someone figured out that inert gas makes the process much more reliable: take a massive dose of sleeping pills, put the exit bag over your head, and hold the elastic drawcord open with your hands, allowing you to breathe until the sleeping pills take effect and your hands fall away, at which point the elastic drawcord closes the bag with some air in the bag. Eventually you exhaust the air inside the bag, but by then the sleeping pills have taken full effect and you're under too deeply for your hypercapnic alarm to kick in and make you tear the bag off.

However, there's a good reason it is no longer used: as @Longman describes, today's sleeping pills no longer reliably foil your hypercapnic alarm.

Which is why inert gas is now used, as @retarddd says. When you flood the exit bag with a steady stream of inert gas to carry away the CO2, that circumvents the hypercapnic alarm.

So in general it is wise to assume exit bag + sleeping pills (– inert gas) = failure.
 
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