What is the Shelf Life of Heroin - REALLY! -Everyone says something different!

[passenger27]

"Shelf life" and "Illegal substance" are two words that cant be in the same phrase, unfortunately.

Expired chemicals lose potency and may drive to unexpected results, that's why i think morphine is more reliable than heroin, bcause it is mostly a medical grade produced substance and is a gold standard in euthanasia.

There's no telling how old H it is when you get it. I'm sure it travels many a mile. That worries me about the H "expiring" and losing it's potency.

"Shelf life" and "Illegal substance" are two words that cant be in the same phrase, unfortunately.

Expired chemicals lose potency and may drive to unexpected results, that's why i think morphine is more reliable than heroin, bcause it is mostly a medical grade produced substance and is a gold standard in euthanasia.

I totally disagree with the PPH score as i see my uncle passing with morphine od and was quick and painless.

I happen to agree about the PPH. It's not the Bible.

 

[Farmmaa]

"Shelf life" and "Illegal substance" are two words that cant be in the same phrase, unfortunately.

Expired chemicals lose potency and may drive to unexpected results, that's why i think morphine is more reliable than heroin, bcause it is mostly a medical grade produced substance and is a gold standard in euthanasia.

I totally disagree with the PPH score as i see my uncle passing with morphine od and was quick and painless.

Morphine is not the 'gold standard' in euthanasia.
Morphine is not used for euthanasia.

H is much more potent than Morphine and thus, much more likely to cause OD.
Neither are anywhere near as reliable as when F is added to the mix.

 

[dioxide]

Morphine is not the 'gold standard' in euthanasia.
Morphine is not used for euthanasia.

H is much more potent than Morphine and thus, much more likely to cause OD.
Neither are anywhere near as reliable as when F is added to the mix.

Well, this is just your (wrong) opinion.

Morphine is gold standard for "indirect" euthanasia, into hospitals and people's private homes.

Also it is used unofficially into war, to severely wound soldiers, for same purpose.

One injection: pain suppressor, four injections: quick euthanasia.

Morphine prescription in end-of-life care and euthanasia: French home nurses' opinions - PubMed

There is an urgent need to strengthen pain management education among French homecare nurses--especially regarding the use of morphine--in order to both improve their technical skills and correct some misconceptions about opioid analgesics.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

'Passive Euthanasia' in Hospitals Is the Norm, Doctors Say (Published 1997)

US Supreme Court decision that states may continue to ban doctor-assisted suicide did not fully take into account that nowadays, many, if not most, Americans die because someone--doctors, family members or themselves--has decided that it is time for them to go; doctors say that what might be...

www.nytimes.com

Doctors' Secret Language for Assisted Suicide

In most states, where euthanasia is illegal, physicians can offer only hints and euphemisms for patients to interpret.

www.theatlantic.com

The reason why Nembutal is the gold standard in euthanasia clinics, is mostly due to political/cost than functional, also an addicted to H may get to coma instead of death, so increasing the quantity of the M may increase cost and complication, also a minor seizure risk is due to N.

 

[Farmmaa]

Well, this is just your (wrong) opinion.

Morphine is gold standard for "indirect" euthanasia, into hospitals and people's private homes.

Also it is used unofficially into war, to severely wound soldiers, for same purpose.

One injection: pain suppressor, four injections: quick euthanasia.


The reason why Nembutal is the gold standard in euthanasia clinics, is mostly due to political/cost than functional, also an addicted to H may get to coma instead of death, so increasing the quantity of the M may increase cost and complication, also a minor seizure risk is due to N.

If you can find actual scientific and medical evidence that patients are being illegally euthanized with Morphine, then by all means post that evidence.
What you have presented here are stories, not facts.
Many hospitals and long term care facilities will top dying patients up with more pain meds to ease their final moments - because death can be very traumatic and painful for those with terminal illness. It may appear to family members that their loved one was given more than needed for pain because they died shortly after... but in reality, the drugs did not speed anything up... medical professionals simply know the signs of a patient's final moments. Death would have occurred at the same rate with or without the morphine.

 

[k75]

If you can find actual scientific and medical evidence that patients are being illegally euthanized with Morphine, then by all means post that evidence.
What you have presented here are stories, not facts.
Many hospitals and long term care facilities will top dying patients up with more pain meds to ease their final moments - because death can be very traumatic and painful for those with terminal illness. It may appear to family members that their loved one was given more than needed for pain because they died shortly after... but in reality, the drugs did not speed anything up... medical professionals simply know the signs of a patient's final moments. Death would have occurred at the same rate with or without the morphine.

But it happens in movies! LOL

Sorry, I'm agreeing with Farmmaa on this. The heroin info was incorrect, which I know because of what I have personally witnessed. And I'm pretty sure the morphine isn't accurate either. Otherwise, why isn't everyone rushing out to get their own? I don't even like it as a painkiller. If I was going to try to go out with that kind of OD, it would be Dilaudid. I don't even know if it would work, but I'd be nice and comfy while trying.

 

[yetme]

Thank you so much for responding to my question.

I must admit that I am terrified of the darknet.

I have a friend that can get it off the street, but it may not be more than 30% pure. However, I also had a friend that tried 2 lines of the same batch and was out of commission for 2 days. Do you think that maybe 4 grams would be enough to CTB? If so, do you know how much water I would have to use in order to have the smallest amount possible, because I am planning on doing it rectally. I have never done H before and am just blind leading the blind and may stupidly jump right off the cliff. So, any in depth information that you can give about the rectal administration would be greatly appreciated. Also, is there a way to keep it in?

30% pure means that it will be 1,4g of pure stuff out of those 4g you gonna buy.
other 70% will be god knows what. in best case scenario they cut it with aspirin.
I think 1,4g will do the trick. I would personally get stuff from the darknet. you can get cheap afgani H it's at least 70% pure or you can get pure Chineese White. that stuff is 99% pure. it's medical grade.


Ok, so I thought about it and I think that infusing it rectally could irritate your rectum, so you will shit all the stuff out.
The best option I think is to get 500mg gelatin capsules. You can buy empty gelatin capsules on ebay or use capsules from some medicine if you have any.
This way 1g of H will easily fit in 2 capsules.

Is there a particular syringe you need to use if you're plugging or do you need to use something I don't know about? I've got catheter syringes to give my cat medicine, is that okay?

I was planning on 4 grams as well. I don't even know how to get on the darknet

Install Tor browser. Then google for darknet catalog for shop links.

 

[Farmmaa]

Ok, so I thought about it and I think that infusing it rectally could irritate your rectum, so you will shit all the stuff out.
The best option I think is to get 500mg gelatin capsules. You can buy empty gelatin capsules on ebay or use capsules from some medicine if you have any.
This way 1g of H will easily fit in 2 capsules.


Install Tor browser. Then google for darknet catalog for shop links.

Rectal administration is a very effective way to dose opioids. They just need to be injected in small enough amounts so that they absorb quickly, before they leak out. One time use will not irritate the lining of the rectum.

Swallowing gel caps is about the worst way to take H.
The oral bioavailability is the lowest route available.

The most reliable way to increase the chance of OD from H is to buy H that is mixed with F.

 

[Razor's Edge]

Rectal administration is a very effective way to dose opioids. They just need to be injected in small enough amounts so that they absorb quickly, before they leak out. One time use will not irritate the lining of the rectum.

Swallowing gel caps is about the worst way to take H.
The oral bioavailability is the lowest route available.

The most reliable way to increase the chance of OD from H is to buy H that is mixed with F.

I appreciate all of your information.

I have a question, if you don't mind. I am way too paranoid to get on the darknet. However, around here, I have no way of knowing exact purity. However, I had a friend that tried 2 lines of the batch that is available, and they were out of commission for 2 1/2 days passing out continuosly, puking and sweating. So, hopefully, by seeing that , that's a good sign, if you take 4grams of H, plus Meto, Lots of Benzos, and alcohol, they can combine to a perfect adios cocktail.

What do you think, about what size syringe would I need for 4grams of H? Do you think a 3ml would work?

 

[passenger27]

30% pure means that it will be 1,4g of pure stuff out of those 4g you gonna buy.
other 70% will be god knows what. in best case scenario they cut it with aspirin.
I think 1,4g will do the trick. I would personally get stuff from the darknet. you can get cheap afgani H it's at least 70% pure or you can get pure Chineese White. that stuff is 99% pure. it's medical grade.


Ok, so I thought about it and I think that infusing it rectally could irritate your rectum, so you will shit all the stuff out.
The best option I think is to get 500mg gelatin capsules. You can buy empty gelatin capsules on ebay or use capsules from some medicine if you have any.
This way 1g of H will easily fit in 2 capsules.


Install Tor browser. Then google for darknet catalog for shop links.

Thanks for that, I appreciate it.
@Razor's Edge I noticed on another thread of yours (can't find it now) that you had an ulcer. I understand the uncertainty of scoring some decent shit, but an idea of mine is to take a chance on the 4 grams, benzos and alcohol, and fix yourself up maybe 3 or 4 glasses of SN. If you'd already taken meto to keep the benzos down maybe you wouldn't have a problem keeping the SN down, unless all that is just too overpowering.

If by chance you woke up from the H od, slam a glass of SN, if you puke slam down another. In the normal scheme of things it'd probably hurt like a bitch if the SN hit your ulcer, but with the H, even cut H, it seems like it would dull the pain enough to CTB somewhat painlessly. Not sure, just a thought.

Here's the best thread concerning SN. Hope it helps.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-a-comprehensive-guide-including-method.25148/

 

[stupidmansuit]

any heroin you might be getting is mostly fent, for ctb purposes it's much more efficient, it will keep long enough.

 

[Razor's Edge]

any heroin you might be getting is mostly fent, for ctb purposes it's much more efficient, it will keep long enough.

Thank you so much for your response and info. It is greatly appreciated!

Thanks for that, I appreciate it.
@Razor's Edge I noticed on another thread of yours (can't find it now) that you had an ulcer. I understand the uncertainty of scoring some decent shit, but an idea of mine is to take a chance on the 4 grams, benzos and alcohol, and fix yourself up maybe 3 or 4 glasses of SN. If you'd already taken meto to keep the benzos down maybe you wouldn't have a problem keeping the SN down, unless all that is just too overpowering.

If by chance you woke up from the H od, slam a glass of SN, if you puke slam down another. In the normal scheme of things it'd probably hurt like a bitch if the SN hit your ulcer, but with the H, even cut H, it seems like it would dull the pain enough to CTB somewhat painlessly. Not sure, just a thought.

Here's the best thread concerning SN. Hope it helps.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-a-comprehensive-guide-including-method.25148/

Thank you so much for all of your information and ideas.
That sounds like a brilliant plan to have a backup plan and the SN seems like it might not be painful or as much as taken on top of the H.

And thank you for sharing this thread as well. All information is greatly appreciated.

I've read you could put it in the refrigerator and it'll keep longer but don't take my word as the gospel, because I've wondered this myself and never got a straight answer either.

That is an excellent question. I wish I had the answer.

If anyone knows the answer to this question, please let us know. It would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Saddad]

The thread I've been searching for.

Theses are my supplies

Looking to achieve a painless transition.

I have 3 questions if anyone has the knowledge and kind enough to offer some advice.

1 is it possible
2 method you would use
3 likely effect

 

[passenger27]

Thank you so much for your response and info. It is greatly appreciated!



Thank you so much for all of your information and ideas.
That sounds like a brilliant plan to have a backup plan and the SN seems like it might not be painful or as much as taken on top of the H.

And thank you for sharing this thread as well. All information is greatly appreciated.



That is an excellent question. I wish I had the answer.

If anyone knows the answer to this question, please let us know. It would be greatly appreciated.

No problem. I'm far from brilliant but backup plans are always nice imo. The biggest problem I see with the H/SN combo would be that it'd sure put a strain on the meto. That's asking a lot out of anything to keep those 2 things down, plus the benzos and alcohol on top of that.

Or maybe you'll score a good bag and not have to worry about any of this. I guess it's remotely possible, if the dealer's reliable. Wish big on that one.

 

[Farmmaa]

any heroin you might be getting is mostly fent, for ctb purposes it's much more efficient, it will keep long enough.

That all depends on where you live.
In North America it's pretty tough to find pure H... everything here is cut with F or other analogs.
In Europe and Aust… F is relatively unheard of and harder to find.

It is always available on the darkweb

 

[passenger27]

The thread I've been searching for.

Theses are my supplies

Looking to achieve a painless transition.

I have 3 questions if anyone has the knowledge and kind enough to offer some advice.

1 is it possible
2 method you would use
3 likely effect

I couldn't answer your questions with any real certainty but that's a nice cocktail you've got going, no doubt.

 

[Razor's Edge]

No problem. I'm far from brilliant but backup plans are always nice imo. The biggest problem I see with the H/SN combo would be that it'd sure put a strain on the meto. That's asking a lot out of anything to keep those 2 things down, plus the benzos and alcohol on top of that.

Or maybe you'll score a good bag and not have to worry about any of this. I guess it's remotely possible, if the dealer's reliable. Wish big on that one.

We can always hope! Thank you for your response.

 

[Saddad]

I couldn't answer your questions with any real certainty but that's a nice cocktail you've got going, no doubt.

Just worried about amounts and vomiting ect.

Need an expert, trying to get help from the recreational users is hard as they seem to realise what my questions are leading too.

Was really hoping someone on here could help

 

[passenger27]

Just worried about amounts and vomiting ect.

Need an expert, trying to get help from the recreational users is hard as they seem to realise what my questions are leading too.

Was really hoping someone on here could help

I'm sure there are plenty of people who can help you out. Maybe you should start your own thread so it's not lost in a lot of other stuff. Once these threads go down the feed with no comments they sort of get buried under everything else. I'm sure your pic alone would attract a lot of attention.

 

[Saddad]

I'm sure there are plenty of people who can help you out. Maybe you should start your own thread so it's not lost in a lot of other stuff. Once these threads go down the feed with no comments they sort of get buried under everything else. I'm sure your pic alone would attract a lot of attention.

I understand,
I have tried but get very little response,

Was hoping that some on this thread would have expertise in this area.