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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
5,854
Lack of money is one of my main issues why I have to ctb. I am not made for poverty I worry so much about it, I cannot adapt to that. This would be extreme agony for me on top of my mental hell.
Welfare in Germany is higher than in the US as far as I know. I would have to live with roundabout 532 dollar (450 euros). However you get on top of that a living space.
I was raised in the middle class. I think for an halfway good life I would maybe need 800 dollar (677 euros) and a living room. I cannot imagine living with way less money what I probably have to. I never had to pay for all of my stuff that's why I am not good with those numbers.

Most of my hobbies can only be practised with money. I play video games, use my laptop a lot and I need my smartphone to chat with friends. I won't be able to meet my friends when I live in poverty because they live not close to me.

I hope I kill myself before I have to endure that. All my coping mechanisms depend on that. My therapist is like welfare is not that bad. I don't believe that. I have way more health issues on top of that. Living with all of these problems is just not what I want. My future will be so terrible. When the next severe crisis hits I hope I gonna end it. For me it would be a rational decision. I have thought so much about it. I conclude that even when I am not depressed. But professionals/prolifers would never acknowledge that.
 
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overcomingfear

Experienced
Sep 1, 2020
206
Try to lower ur needs. Remove expenses that u can live without. Find out how much u really need to be ok
 
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Bootleg Astolfo

Glorious Bean Plushie
Oct 12, 2020
832
*Soviet Anthem starts playing*
I no into care about money comrade, but into since live capitalist pig country, i'd say about into minimum wage is ''tolerable'' if i into had personal stuff into fixed.
 
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Symbiote

Global Mod
Oct 12, 2020
3,099
I can live comfortably if I was still single on about 40k/yr. Being married and stuff, I need to make six-figures. I lived on much less before, but with the rising costs of rent and food, it was pretty hard on some days.
 
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JustLosingMyself

Mage
Sep 4, 2018
544
Lack of money is one of my main issues why I have to ctb. I am not made for poverty I worry so much about it, I cannot adapt to that. This would be extreme agony for me on top of my mental hell.
Welfare in Germany is higher than in the US as far as I know. I would have to live with roundabout 532 dollar (450 euros). However you get on top of that a living space.
I was raised in the middle class. I think for an halfway good life I would maybe need 800 dollar (677 euros) and a living room. I cannot imagine living with way less money what I probably have to. I never had to pay for all of my stuff that's why I am not good with those numbers.

Most of my hobbies can only be practised with money. I play video games, use my laptop a lot and I need my smartphone to chat with friends. I won't be able to meet my friends when I live in poverty because they live not close to me.

I hope I kill myself before I have to endure that. All my coping mechanisms depend on that. My therapist is like welfare is not that bad. I don't believe that. I have way more health issues on top of that. Living with all of these problems is just not what I want. My future will be so terrible. When the next severe crisis hits I hope I gonna end it. For me it would be a rational decision. I have thought so much about it. I conclude that even when I am not depressed. But professionals/prolifers would never acknowledge that.
Don't understand what your issue is tbh. Your rent and bills are paid, and you have €450 on top. It's not rich I'll grant you, but seriously?
I'm employed, and once all the bills, housing costs, medical expenses and taxes are paid I have less than you.
 
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Alwaysbadtime

Enlightened
Jun 28, 2021
1,158
Don't understand what your issue is tbh. Your rent and bills are paid, and you have €450 on top. It's not rich I'll grant you, but seriously?
I'm employed, and once all the bills, housing costs, medical expenses and taxes are paid I have less than you.
I can't speak for the person posting...I think it's the isolation and poverty that really fucking feels dark. Getting out, doing a task and getting paid for it psychologically feels better. That is if it isn't a truly satanic job like scraping shit off retarded convicted sexual felon's toilet seat (did that and I have 3 fucking degrees).
 
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Amumu

Ctb - temporary solution for a permanent problem
Aug 29, 2020
2,623
Idk maybe 500 for the rent and 200 for food, so I'd say 700 euros.
 
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Kattt

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May 18, 2021
796
Just need a roof,a bed, some food and a quiet place to have a shit
 
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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
5,854
Don't understand what your issue is tbh. Your rent and bills are paid, and you have €450 on top. It's not rich I'll grant you, but seriously?
I'm employed, and once all the bills, housing costs, medical expenses and taxes are paid I have less than you.
I am not sure how bad this is. I don't buy a lot of stuff myself. My parents pay for much stuff. I think with 450 euros you cannot drive train, have no car, having no laptop/ video games. I cope with that stuff. I thought that in other countries they have less money.
I don't know 2 therapists think I gonna ctb due to poverty and my chronic illness. Some people describe welfare as hell. I conclude it is hell. I never lived with that amount of money. I never experienced poverty.
Sometimes you are forced to live with other mentally ill people in a group house.(because there is not much cheap living space) I've heard a lot of bad stories about these places. I know some people who have no internet connection who live there. If you are unlucky they don't pay you a normal living space.

I don't know in which country you live but the prices in Germany are quite high you cannot simply compare it to prices in other EU states.
 
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Lostandlooking

In limbo
Jul 23, 2020
467
I don't live in Germany so I don't know the situation about welfare. Where I live it has definitely been very hard living on welfare. Not so much because of the money, I could realistically live with about 1200 euro's a month. I get a little bit more than that. I could do with less if I didn't have any pets or a car. Half of that amount goes into rent. About 370 euros for health insurance, other insurances, taxes, internet and electricity etc. That leaves me with enough money for food.

I've found living on welfare difficult because of the pressure they put on me (at least in the beginning). After a while it got better. And I started working and I was only partially on welfare. Then I got sick again and everything fell apart. I'm grateful for the money. If I ever lose my income that would be the time I ctb.

Because I got sick again I'm now partially on welfare and I get some disability. I'm broken however, don't know how to put back the pieces. So much has happened and I experienced so much pain. Being on welfare or disability is also stressful because of the paperwork. I recently sorted something out, it took a couple of months and the letters I get often make me have panick attacks. It can seem never ending. And no-one can really tell you what it means. The letters are written in such a way that makes them difficult to understand.

I also feel guilty all the time. It can be taken away at any moment. And I worry about that also. Then there's the application process, I've felt extremely misunderstood so many times that talking to almost anyone and especially doctors becomes extremely stressful and difficult. I would choose anything over welfare or disability if it was possible. That's why I kept trying for so long. But got very damaged in the whole process. I understand living with your parents isn't ideal either. I can definitely understand your worry about money. Wish there was a solution. Maybe welfare could work out, but it could be damaging also. Wishing you the best.
 
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Grave

tired
Mar 5, 2021
65
I can live comfortably if I was still single on about 40k/yr. Being married and stuff, I need to make six-figures. I lived on much less before, but with the rising costs of rent and food, it was pretty hard on some days.
Are you talking euros, dollars or something else? I think if you're talking in dollars that's a decent amount, if I got that in pounds I'd consider myself lucky.
Lack of money is one of my main issues why I have to ctb. I am not made for poverty I worry so much about it, I cannot adapt to that. This would be extreme agony for me on top of my mental hell.
Welfare in Germany is higher than in the US as far as I know. I would have to live with roundabout 532 dollar (450 euros). However you get on top of that a living space.
I was raised in the middle class. I think for an halfway good life I would maybe need 800 dollar (677 euros) and a living room. I cannot imagine living with way less money what I probably have to. I never had to pay for all of my stuff that's why I am not good with those numbers.

Most of my hobbies can only be practised with money. I play video games, use my laptop a lot and I need my smartphone to chat with friends. I won't be able to meet my friends when I live in poverty because they live not close to me.

I hope I kill myself before I have to endure that. All my coping mechanisms depend on that. My therapist is like welfare is not that bad. I don't believe that. I have way more health issues on top of that. Living with all of these problems is just not what I want. My future will be so terrible. When the next severe crisis hits I hope I gonna end it. For me it would be a rational decision. I have thought so much about it. I conclude that even when I am not depressed. But professionals/prolifers would never acknowledge that.
If you're talking per month, then I think that you're right, 450 euros is little, but that's what being on welfare is about, you're at the bottom.
 
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Sunset Limited

I believe in Sunset Limited
Jul 29, 2019
1,352
Actually I don't want to die but my financial problem is forcing me to CTB. I can CTB no problem but I feel so bad for my mom. I wish I could make $250 a month online. I cannot work in a job because I refuse to do military service in the country where I live. It is impossible for me to work, but online is possible. Even $150 a month may be enough, is it possible for me to earn this money online?
 
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brutalus

Student
Jun 14, 2021
159
i live with 250 usd a month in mexico, but i dont pay rent. for people asking about jobs online. first ask, what can you do, what do you like? things of the top of my head:

- writing
- designing 2d, 3d, webpages, other
- being a virtual asistant
- call center/ customer support
- forum or other type of moderator
- decentraland host
- make videogame assets and sell them
- music
- give lessons
- dropshipping
- crypto trading, joking i just lost all my money with this :,(
 
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İnilerim

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Dec 28, 2018
66
Currently living on about ~250€ a month, which mostly just goes to food and hygiene; I'd get more but the government doesn't know that I live on my own illegally (have to tell them I live with my parents), so most of my Hartz4 (welfare in Germany) goes to rent.

Minimum I could live with would be roughly 1k a month after taxes. I really hate owning stuff so that helps.
 
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Riomhaire1

Member
Jul 14, 2021
23
It's all relative. Maybe things are not that bad for you and you can deal with it - but only you can tell.
Let me describe being in America -- one of the most wretched places on earth - for some.
For others it can be heaven.

Try living in the US without a job. There is almost no welfare here - it is not like Europe / Australia etc.

It is impossible to cope for long without a job in the US - and once homeless / destitute -- suicide to escape it becomes almost impossible too.
For the few who can hustle the cash and navigate this world - maybe a drug overdose - but many bad drug deals with fake powders / many arrests --not an easy path.
Guns / inert gas / Nembutal etc all impossible with no money. Tall buildings and bridges now almost impossible.
Nowhere undisturbed for 30 min to hang oneself in public. Parks closed / patrolled at night.
The only people who seem to be able to hang themselves with a sheet or improvised rope etc using partial hanging --and can take the terrible pain and go through with it -- seem to be severely mentally ill people with voices screaming in their heads -- or maybe I am just not brave enough. I just could not do it and not stop part way and stand up.
Full suspension hanging is harder - where to get a rope - how to climb up and tie it - not simple. Maybe I just don't have the courage to endure the pain.
Just couldn't - no matter how bad things are.

Here they will let / make you literally starve to death / die of dehydration in the heat / get frostbite in -20C weather in a flimsy tent in the woods or in the gutter in a city.
Amputated fingers and toes from frostbite - untreated abscessed teeth leading eventually to meningitis and death - blindness from parasites from dirty drinking water - you name it - hepatitis A, B and C. Eye diseases - skin diseases - trench foot.
No one will help you - unless single mother with very young kids and healthy / able to work at least part time and with a support network of friends/family.
Single males - doomed -- end up in a prison being exploited for private prison shares, convict labour, guards salaries, phone company ripoffs, commissary food supplement ripoffs etc etc. -- on top of the violence from inmates and guards, untreated medical and dental issues, rapes, poor diet, filthy conditions etc etc

Full disability here is maybe $500 - $1K /month -- will barely pay rent for a single room - but if haven't worked in a few years before becoming disabled - then not eligible for anything no matter how disabled -- and they exclude so many. Deaf is not deaf if even one ear partly works/ could work with a $3K hearing aid you cannot afford.
Is unbelievable - but true.
For example - be unemployed - stay at home Dad for 10 years - so have not worked in 5 yrs of last 10 years -- then go blind, lose both your legs , lose an arm --- you get ZERO.
You can starve / die in the snow -you get nada in the US if you are not eligible for SSI. Have to be working within the last few years before being disabled and even then is a multi-year effort to get them to register for disability - so how are you supposed to cope in the meantime ... and need medical records etc - these are not free in the US.

If you lose your job and are all paid up on contributions then you get a few months of EU type few hundred a week - but after 6 -9 months or whatever when it runs out -you get zero. Then need to work again for a couple of years before can do it again. Otherwise nada. No food no shelter no water nothing.
Nada. Then homeless then prison for the crime of being homeless. There are no public water fountains for drinking water. No public restrooms. What do you do ?
Shelters and "charities" are often "not for profit" - which just means they pay themselves well enough that there is nothing left over -they are businesses - though they do have some good people.
They have a few min wage front line staff - or ex prisoners working for free so they don't get put back in prison - but rest are well paid senior staff who never even see a homeless person and are very well paid.
They lock up almost 10 times as many per capita as other places - is a vast gulag - where companies make money off supplying and staffing and exploiting the prisoners.

No AC in 35C+ weather -no heating in sub zero weather - not enough food - $$ per minute phone calls - kick backs to the prison owners - privatized prisons - compulsory labour at $1 a day type wages - just unimaginable suffering --on top of all the violence untreated diseases TB/AIDS/rape/HepC
-- and it is for life - because once your sentence is up you can leave but you're coming right back because the outside world has nowhere for you as an ex convict - and you will be re-arrested in days / weeks /months on some new charge.
Loitering / public urination / public trespass (sitting down from exhaustion) / not getting a job if on parole though it is almost impossible to get a job with a record aside form manual day labor if young strong then winter comes no work back to prison / etc -- hardly hardened criminal acts deserving of such extreme punishment

They have $100/month ( not a typo) foodstamps - if you can meet all the eligibility criteria and do all the paperwork ( and have ID) - but cannot buy cooked food - but cannot afford anywhere to cook /prepare raw food - so can get bread/ peanut butter and not much else -- and you have to work but make less than a certain amount or you get just a couple of years per lifetime then nada. Single males not working get zero.
-- and somehow you have to keep a residence address/ pay rent --or you cease to exist and are eligible for nothing.
The only people who get any welfare here are low paid single mothers - somehow still housed - working at least part time-with very young children - and it is not much.
There is essentially no welfare in the US.
It is not like Europe where can get unemployment for life - sometimes if never even had a job.

Other than that - no job then no rent - then soon no address - then no driver's license because no address - then no ID because no address - then cannot even apply for a job without ID -- then begging and sleeping rough then arrested then jail /prison - then unemployable for life. Then homeless --> jail --> homeless over and over.
After 3 years ( if locked up for example) - banks confiscate all account contents if no activity - good luck writing letters to claimn it back when homeless. LEgally not allowed have a bank acct if no residential address ( no - not everyone has a "friend" who will pick up their mail) - same with driver's license - and state photo id --need an address.

Once homeless - especially with any inevitable "criminal" record is almost impossible here - even with help -- to crawl back out of it.

Now THAT is something that would inspire CTB -- no wonder the OD rate is over 92,000 / year now in the US -- double the official suicide rate of 48,000/yr.
and half of the suicides are with guns here -- but cannot own/carry a gun when homeless - or an ex prisoner - can't maintain a permit -- so those are just the richer people.

Food is occasional church soup kitchens and "not for profit" charities with well paid CEO's / grant managers who get paid well but have to occasionally actually help some poor people - so they themselves can get more grants --etc. Some volunteers - but it is actually an industry here - and it never fixes much of the poverty because it isn't meant to.

Shelters often have limited duration stays -- get a job or go back to the gutter - sometimes there are no jobs - if you have no skills - papers - ID - or a criminal record.
Get arrested for public urination here and often they will add on indecent exposure - and will register you as a sex offender for life - on paper you may as well be a pedophile.
-- then try to get a job anywhere with 10 second online background checks and all records permanent and public as soon as even arrested never mind convicted.
Though there are some good people - charities here are an industry built on the suffering of poor people - same as the prisons - imagine over 3 million locked up and twice that on the way in or out of prison - hundreds of thousands of probation officers tormenting people every step of the way - while picking up a pay cheque.
Home is a tent on the street - in the woods - nowhere to get drinking water - no public restrooms so get arrested again - nowhere to cook or store food - no ID so no job -- cannot ever escape and climb back out. No dental treatment - no medical treatment - expensive public transport - often no public transport - drive or walk - miles and miles with no footpaths.

Here they put blind people and cripples in wheelchairs out in the street homeless to beg in the heat and snow - left to starve or not - and then arrest them for begging - or defecating in an alley when there is no alternative. I don't know how they last a week never mind years of this.
Go to San Francisco or Los Angeles or New York city or Philadelphia or many other places - even more rural places -- street upon street of thousands of these people.
They throw cripples on the floors of prison cells and throw away their wheel chairs if they don't fit in the door of a small cell - leaving the cripple to crawl across and eat off the floor. Google the Marshall project on US prisons -- is harrowing reading.

The US as an unemployed / homeless person - or worse a prisoner in their gulag -- is truly hell on earth - but almost impossible to escape.
Count your blessings if you are not here. Have your method ready to go in case things get this bad.
 
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Superdeterminist

Enlightened
Apr 5, 2020
1,876
I really sympathise with your situation. Poverty is truly hell and I know exactly what you mean when you talk about being used to living a more expensive lifestyle and then having to adjust to a lower standard of living, it's a really horrible feeling and it's difficult. I also hope to get out this place because I'm so fed up worrying about money and how to get it in a way that satisfies me.
 
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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
5,854
It's all relative. Maybe things are not that bad for you and you can deal with it - but only you can tell.
Let me describe being in America -- one of the most wretched places on earth - for some.
For others it can be heaven.

Try living in the US without a job. There is almost no welfare here - it is not like Europe / Australia etc.

It is impossible to cope for long without a job in the US - and once homeless / destitute -- suicide to escape it becomes almost impossible too.
For the few who can hustle the cash and navigate this world - maybe a drug overdose - but many bad drug deals with fake powders / many arrests --not an easy path.
Guns / inert gas / Nembutal etc all impossible with no money. Tall buildings and bridges now almost impossible.
Nowhere undisturbed for 30 min to hang oneself in public. Parks closed / patrolled at night.
The only people who seem to be able to hang themselves with a sheet or improvised rope etc using partial hanging --and can take the terrible pain and go through with it -- seem to be severely mentally ill people with voices screaming in their heads -- or maybe I am just not brave enough. I just could not do it and not stop part way and stand up.
Full suspension hanging is harder - where to get a rope - how to climb up and tie it - not simple. Maybe I just don't have the courage to endure the pain.
Just couldn't - no matter how bad things are.

Here they will let / make you literally starve to death / die of dehydration in the heat / get frostbite in -20C weather in a flimsy tent in the woods or in the gutter in a city.
Amputated fingers and toes from frostbite - untreated abscessed teeth leading eventually to meningitis and death - blindness from parasites from dirty drinking water - you name it - hepatitis A, B and C. Eye diseases - skin diseases - trench foot.
No one will help you - unless single mother with very young kids and healthy / able to work at least part time and with a support network of friends/family.
Single males - doomed -- end up in a prison being exploited for private prison shares, convict labour, guards salaries, phone company ripoffs, commissary food supplement ripoffs etc etc. -- on top of the violence from inmates and guards, untreated medical and dental issues, rapes, poor diet, filthy conditions etc etc

Full disability here is maybe $500 - $1K /month -- will barely pay rent for a single room - but if haven't worked in a few years before becoming disabled - then not eligible for anything no matter how disabled -- and they exclude so many. Deaf is not deaf if even one ear partly works/ could work with a $3K hearing aid you cannot afford.
Is unbelievable - but true.
For example - be unemployed - stay at home Dad for 10 years - so have not worked in 5 yrs of last 10 years -- then go blind, lose both your legs , lose an arm --- you get ZERO.
You can starve / die in the snow -you get nada in the US if you are not eligible for SSI. Have to be working within the last few years before being disabled and even then is a multi-year effort to get them to register for disability - so how are you supposed to cope in the meantime ... and need medical records etc - these are not free in the US.

If you lose your job and are all paid up on contributions then you get a few months of EU type few hundred a week - but after 6 -9 months or whatever when it runs out -you get zero. Then need to work again for a couple of years before can do it again. Otherwise nada. No food no shelter no water nothing.
Nada. Then homeless then prison for the crime of being homeless. There are no public water fountains for drinking water. No public restrooms. What do you do ?
Shelters and "charities" are often "not for profit" - which just means they pay themselves well enough that there is nothing left over -they are businesses - though they do have some good people.
They have a few min wage front line staff - or ex prisoners working for free so they don't get put back in prison - but rest are well paid senior staff who never even see a homeless person and are very well paid.
They lock up almost 10 times as many per capita as other places - is a vast gulag - where companies make money off supplying and staffing and exploiting the prisoners.

No AC in 35C+ weather -no heating in sub zero weather - not enough food - $$ per minute phone calls - kick backs to the prison owners - privatized prisons - compulsory labour at $1 a day type wages - just unimaginable suffering --on top of all the violence untreated diseases TB/AIDS/rape/HepC
-- and it is for life - because once your sentence is up you can leave but you're coming right back because the outside world has nowhere for you as an ex convict - and you will be re-arrested in days / weeks /months on some new charge.
Loitering / public urination / public trespass (sitting down from exhaustion) / not getting a job if on parole though it is almost impossible to get a job with a record aside form manual day labor if young strong then winter comes no work back to prison / etc -- hardly hardened criminal acts deserving of such extreme punishment

They have $100/month ( not a typo) foodstamps - if you can meet all the eligibility criteria and do all the paperwork ( and have ID) - but cannot buy cooked food - but cannot afford anywhere to cook /prepare raw food - so can get bread/ peanut butter and not much else -- and you have to work but make less than a certain amount or you get just a couple of years per lifetime then nada. Single males not working get zero.
-- and somehow you have to keep a residence address/ pay rent --or you cease to exist and are eligible for nothing.
The only people who get any welfare here are low paid single mothers - somehow still housed - working at least part time-with very young children - and it is not much.
There is essentially no welfare in the US.
It is not like Europe where can get unemployment for life - sometimes if never even had a job.

Other than that - no job then no rent - then soon no address - then no driver's license because no address - then no ID because no address - then cannot even apply for a job without ID -- then begging and sleeping rough then arrested then jail /prison - then unemployable for life. Then homeless --> jail --> homeless over and over.
After 3 years ( if locked up for example) - banks confiscate all account contents if no activity - good luck writing letters to claimn it back when homeless. LEgally not allowed have a bank acct if no residential address ( no - not everyone has a "friend" who will pick up their mail) - same with driver's license - and state photo id --need an address.

Once homeless - especially with any inevitable "criminal" record is almost impossible here - even with help -- to crawl back out of it.

Now THAT is something that would inspire CTB -- no wonder the OD rate is over 92,000 / year now in the US -- double the official suicide rate of 48,000/yr.
and half of the suicides are with guns here -- but cannot own/carry a gun when homeless - or an ex prisoner - can't maintain a permit -- so those are just the richer people.

Food is occasional church soup kitchens and "not for profit" charities with well paid CEO's / grant managers who get paid well but have to occasionally actually help some poor people - so they themselves can get more grants --etc. Some volunteers - but it is actually an industry here - and it never fixes much of the poverty because it isn't meant to.

Shelters often have limited duration stays -- get a job or go back to the gutter - sometimes there are no jobs - if you have no skills - papers - ID - or a criminal record.
Get arrested for public urination here and often they will add on indecent exposure - and will register you as a sex offender for life - on paper you may as well be a pedophile.
-- then try to get a job anywhere with 10 second online background checks and all records permanent and public as soon as even arrested never mind convicted.
Though there are some good people - charities here are an industry built on the suffering of poor people - same as the prisons - imagine over 3 million locked up and twice that on the way in or out of prison - hundreds of thousands of probation officers tormenting people every step of the way - while picking up a pay cheque.
Home is a tent on the street - in the woods - nowhere to get drinking water - no public restrooms so get arrested again - nowhere to cook or store food - no ID so no job -- cannot ever escape and climb back out. No dental treatment - no medical treatment - expensive public transport - often no public transport - drive or walk - miles and miles with no footpaths.

Here they put blind people and cripples in wheelchairs out in the street homeless to beg in the heat and snow - left to starve or not - and then arrest them for begging - or defecating in an alley when there is no alternative. I don't know how they last a week never mind years of this.
Go to San Francisco or Los Angeles or New York city or Philadelphia or many other places - even more rural places -- street upon street of thousands of these people.
They throw cripples on the floors of prison cells and throw away their wheel chairs if they don't fit in the door of a small cell - leaving the cripple to crawl across and eat off the floor. Google the Marshall project on US prisons -- is harrowing reading.

The US as an unemployed / homeless person - or worse a prisoner in their gulag -- is truly hell on earth - but almost impossible to escape.
Count your blessings if you are not here. Have your method ready to go in case things get this bad.
The crazy thing is poor people in Africa will tell you. I wish I would live in the US. If they could choose between their countries poverty and the US poverty. The vast majority on this earth would choose the poverty in the US compared to otwn states welfare. I know welfare in Germany is pretty high compared to other countries. Still it is pretty shitty to be poor and everyone around you can afford their wishes.
There is relative poverty and absolute poverty. There is almost 0% absolute poverty in Germany. If a human on this planet has less than 1,90 Dollar per day he is lives in absolute poverty.
Noone can tell me the earth is an awesome place to live. There is so much poverty and pain in this world. It is always hard to compare poverty and pain because as you said it is all relative.
Recently I've heard Britney Spears complaint the lack of money she gets from her management. She gets 3.000 Dollar a week for living. Still I think she lives a pretty shitty life.
 
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I'm on benefits here in the UK.
I'm only £100 weekly.
This has to pay for everything.
Gas.
Electric.
Water.
Shopping.

I do manage it bit it's a struggle.
This is paid every 2 weeks.

Yearly this comes in at £5200.
Not much at all of know.
 
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