HopefulSleep

HopefulSleep

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Apr 24, 2023
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I am probably going by overdosing after I found a good place so now I just need the best method.
Nembutal is no option for obvious reasons.
I think bdo+benzos is good and is rather cheap and opposed to opioids it is much harder to revive you cause there is no direct antidote for bdo afaik.
I would also tape my mouth with some package tape so that I will die faster cause I will choke on my puke and on the bdo I shouldn't feel it or is this a dumb idea?
Or are there better overdose methods than bdo+benzos and what are the advantages and disadvantages?
I also have the idea to combine bdo with benzos and sn but there may be disadvantages, for example drinking the bdo with juice would break the fasting rule for sn.
With strong opioids I heard sometimes that they feel disgusting but I am not sure.
Heroin is too weak to be able to overdose by snorting.
The consume forms I am ok with are oral, nasal and maybe rectal but wouldn't prefer the last one and no way I will use needles, this can go wrong without experience.
 
Stormy Raine

Stormy Raine

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Apr 7, 2023
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Insulin! I'll never say I'll do it but if I ever could imagine a great method, It would be fast acting and long acting insulin with some sleeping pills, benzos and alcohol. It seems like fasting for 2-3 days prior would be helpful but I personally would never consider that method!
 
HopefulSleep

HopefulSleep

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Apr 24, 2023
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Insulin! I'll never say I'll do it but if I ever could imagine a great method, It would be fast acting and long acting insulin with some sleeping pills, benzos and alcohol. It seems like fasting for 2-3 days prior would be helpful but I personally would never consider that method!
Isn't that painful and wouldn't I have to i.m. that?
 
Stormy Raine

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Apr 7, 2023
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I never tried it so idk. I'd imagine the sleeping pills would kick in and your blood sugar would drop so low you slip into a coma and if not found you'd die. Insulin is given in the fat so no I.m. I'm saying if I ever considered an attempt again it would be that way. Pills never work, I've tried 5 times.
If only the people that left before us left us a blueprint but they didn't. I can't go in pain like hanging, gun shot, cutting, etc. I imagine a peaceful sleep
 
HopefulSleep

HopefulSleep

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Apr 24, 2023
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I never tried it so idk. I'd imagine the sleeping pills would kick in and your blood sugar would drop so low you slip into a coma and if not found you'd die. Insulin is given in the fat so no I.m. I'm saying if I ever considered an attempt again it would be that way. Pills never work, I've tried 5 times.
If only the people that left before us left us a blueprint but they didn't. I can't go in pain like hanging, gun shot, cutting, etc. I imagine a peaceful sleep
There isn't much info on insulin ctb on here, seems too risky.
 
GasMonkey

GasMonkey

Nitrogen Master Race
May 15, 2022
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The PPeH has a list of all the viable overdose methods.
 
HopefulSleep

HopefulSleep

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Apr 24, 2023
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The PPeH has a list of all the viable overdose methods.
Thanks, there are some drug categories mentioned that I didn't know about and I will look into that.
So I read through it now.
For the 3 Drug mixture and 4 Drug mixture doesn't work cause digoxin or chloral hydrate isn't available.
Insulin is expensive if you buy it illegally and I would have to use multiple syringes at once.
Chloroquine, amitriptyline and propoxyphene are unavailable on black market so the only option that can realistically be properly used that is mentioned on there are opioids.
For morphine, really expensive especially if you want to overdose orally and I don't like needles so.
With heroin the problem is that it is hard to get pure stuff even on darknet markets, just cause they claim that it is pure and has good reviews it doesn't mean that it has to be and also it is expensive to overdose orally on it and PPeH doesn't mention snorting at all which is weird to me.
For fentanyl it is mostly used to cut other drugs and is rarely sold as a powder itself, I found one seller but he doesn't tell how pure it is and it is probably low in purity then.
Carfentanil isn't a thing in germany.
What the PPeH didn't mention at all are research chemicals like Protonitazene (stronger opioid than fentanyl but not much suicide information on it) or Bromazolam or ghb/gbl/bdo and I am sure there are maybe other methods that are better than those that are discribed in there.
And also it doesn't mention overdosing combined with sn.
Death would be so easy with a private apartment and Nembutal powder, just staying awake some days, then mix the powder with water, then drink it and go to sleep, you won't even feel the drugs effects, you would just sleep forever.
Cause of pro lifers some people literally burn themselves alive out of frustration this is so immoral.
 
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If you're choosing overdose I would definitely read up on as much as you can and consider your options carefully.

I tried it by overdose last year. I looked up the lethal amount of Cymbalta and took just under twice that, took 42mg of Ativan, and laid in my running car in the garage.

I was found in 9 hours and woke up 3 days later in the hospital.

Not trying to scare you off, just want you to be prepared because now I live with a failed attempt and PTSD.

Edit to add: vehicle didn't work cause I was silly and didn't realize newer vehicles don't emit the same carbon as older vehicles. I fully believe if I hadn't been found I would have woken up on my own at some point. I required very little medical care when I was brought in and have zero liver, kidney, brain damage. I basically just slept it off.
 
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HopefulSleep

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If you're choosing overdose I would definitely read up on as much as you can and consider your options carefully.

I tried it by overdose last year. I looked up the lethal amount of Cymbalta and took just under twice that, took 42mg of Ativan, and laid in my running car in the garage.

I was found in 9 hours and woke up 3 days later in the hospital.

Not trying to scare you off, just want you to be prepared because now I live with a failed attempt and PTSD.
I also failed an attempt and that is why I asked here.
To not fail again I need something that is almost impossible to survive and a good place where I won't be found so I made this post and the post I made before.
The PPeH has a list of all the viable overdose methods.
What I forgot to mention for the PPeH overdose methods, it doesn't mention plugging which I would maybe also be ok with but then I wold have to buy a syringe and it feels disgusting in my opinion.
 
nighty_nite13

nighty_nite13

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May 11, 2023
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I also failed an attempt and that is why I asked here.
Gotcha, am new and still learning how to use the site, missed the part where you've tried before.

Also since I have failed before with pills I have sworn off them and am looking at every other option besides overdose. I can't fail again so that's the only reason I commented.
 
HopefulSleep

HopefulSleep

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Apr 24, 2023
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Gotcha, am new and still learning how to use the site, missed the part where you've tried before.

Also since I have failed before with pills I have sworn off them and am looking at every other option besides overdose. I can't fail again so that's the only reason I commented.
There are other ways to overdose, I can imagine that bdo/ghb/gbl combined with a strong benzo and then sn after that is a good method.
The problem of drinking bdo/ghb/gbl is that it is very bitter and mixing it with juice and drinking would break the sn fasting but you can also plug it I think but then it is imprtant to know the onset.
Cymbalta isn't a known method and the benzo you used was low dose, there are stronger cheaper rc benzos.
I am so sorry that you had to go through this and I can imagine that the overdose you tried was painful cause it isn't well researched, when I overdosed I did snorted much heroin and took some xanax, the problem is that heroin isn't deadly enough when not injected (if I think about it maybe plugging would work) and I didn't take enough benzos and I did it at home but the bad thing I remember from it is only waking up in a psych ward, you have to know as weird as it sounds I can't think properly and use my pc as a substitution, my normal thoughts hurt and in a psych ward I only have my painful thoughts and in my opinion this was torture, I would even call it traumatic, I hate pro lifers so much cause of them we have to often choose more complicated or painful methods, as I said above there are cases of people burning themselves out of frustration but pro lifers don't care about that.
Which methods are you looking in?
 
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Cymbalta isn't a known method and the benzo you used was low dose, there are stronger cheaper rc benzos.
I was hoping it would be enough, I'm pretty medicine naive when it comes to benzodiazepines and whatnot. I was reading peer reviewed articles on fatal overdoses of Cymbalta before I tried but they must've been combine with other illnesses cause I took twice what they reported. Other than my stupid ass brain my body is otherwise really healthy.
bad thing I remember from it is only waking up in a psych ward, you have to know as weird as it sounds I can't think properly and use my pc as a substitution, my normal thoughts hurt and in a psych ward I only have my painful thoughts and in my opinion this was torture
I 100% agree, the psych ward stay after was pure torture. Thanks to staffing we didn't have any classes or group sessions going on ever. We weren't allowed outside and other than med pass we had meal times to break up the day. That was it. They also didn't split us up so I was in with more violent disorders (constant physical fights) and a sexual offender I caught going through my room at least twice. I panic every time my therapist even hints at more intense treatments.
, I would even call it traumatic, I hate pro lifers so much cause of them we have to often choose more complicated or painful methods, as I said above there are cases of people burning themselves out of frustration but pro lifers don't care about that.
We had someone about two months ago who burned themselves alive after leaving a goodbye note. I can't imagine that level of mental pain where that method of exit is preferred. I'm in a bad place but holy cow. I agree why can't we get the same help as someone with a physical terminal ailment who will never improve. We won't either. :(
Which methods are you looking in?
Gun. Have been reading through all of the posts here. Have found a secluded place where if for some reason it doesn't work immediately cause I have shitty luck hopefully I'll just bleed out. If something mechanical happens with the gun I'll take the ratchet strap setup out there with me.
 
PurpleParadigm

PurpleParadigm

The glow is an illusion
Mar 22, 2023
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SN and barbiturates are basically an overdose. With SN you need to follow a strict regimen combined with a two day fast, with liquid fast preceeding few hours before CTB.

Anything that may leave you with liver damage or failure should be avoided, which sadly is most things available over the counter and as a prescription.
 
HopefulSleep

HopefulSleep

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Apr 24, 2023
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I was hoping it would be enough, I'm pretty medicine naive when it comes to benzodiazepines and whatnot.
When I tried to overdose I just searched for the lethal dose of the drugs, I didn't know that a suicide forum exists back then.
Other than my stupid ass brain my body is otherwise really healthy.
I feel the same, my body is physically extremely strong but mentally so broken.
I 100% agree, the psych ward stay after was pure torture. Thanks to staffing we didn't have any classes or group sessions going on ever.
I prefer to be alone but with my pc, I never learned how to do social things and when I had first real social contacts they sexually abused me and now people wonder why I sit in front of my pc daily and never go out at all.
I hate it with other people but alone without pc is torture and people get this wrong.
We weren't allowed outside and other than med pass we had meal times to break up the day.
I have severe depression and it made me notice how much I need my dopamine boost with junk food and videogames and candies, I constantly felt nothing or pain and was close to risking potential brain damage by nearly sticking a fork in the power outlet cause this was too much for me, those fucking monsters.
I panic every time my therapist even hints at more intense treatments.
We are book numbers to them.
Gun. Have been reading through all of the posts here. Have found a secluded place where if for some reason it doesn't work immediately cause I have shitty luck hopefully I'll just bleed out.
How the fuck do you get a gun?
In most countries you can't get weapons if you are diagnosed with mental disorders.
Btw if it is not a shotgun you risk brain damage afaik.
If something mechanical happens with the gun I'll take the ratchet strap setup out there with me.
You mean night night?
Can easily go wrong afaik.
SN and barbiturates are basically an overdose.
SN is poisoning and Nembutal isn't available and other Barbiturates are long acting.
With SN you need to follow a strict regimen combined with a two day fast, with liquid fast preceeding few hours before CTB.
That is why I am thinking about combining it with butanediol and bromazolam before so that I don't feel it and maybe tape my mouth so I die by choking on my own vomit.
Anything that may leave you with liver damage or failure should be avoided, which sadly is most things available over the counter and as a prescription.
That is obvious I think that otc things are way too weak.
 
unnormal9

unnormal9

SOLDIER T.
Apr 12, 2023
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If overdosing was reliable I wouldn't be here. Good to know, huh?
 

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