Demian

Demian

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Mar 25, 2024
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I believe that if suicide (euthanasia/assisted suicide) were sanctioned (where the suicidal person could leave with nembutal, or something similar) the suicide numbers would decrease, since the person, at any time, would have the right to leave in peace.

Many people wouldn't worry about methods, organising a day when they'll be alone, etc. They wouldn't think much about suicide.

Of course, the person wouldn't be released on the same day. It would have to be something conscious, with the person being 100 per cent sure that it's what they want. They would have to do some analyses beforehand, talk to the person, etc. Because there are many cases in which the person decides on impulse but then regrets it.

What do you think?
 
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Camper

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Sep 27, 2022
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Suicide practically is sanctioned in my country. I can drive down the street and buy a shotgun right now. This is one of the most effective suicide methods in existence.

Yet, suicidality is only going up for middle-aged white men, not down. Having easy access has not brought mental relief to these people. There's other factors at play here.
 
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willitpass

willitpass

Don’t try to offer me help, I’ve tried everything
Mar 10, 2020
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Suicide practically is sanctioned in my country. I can drive down the street and buy a shotgun right now. This is one of the most effective suicide methods in existence.

Yet, suicidality is only going up for middle-aged white men, not down. Having easy access has not brought mental relief to these people. There's other factors at play here.
That's because suicide itself is still taboo, as is mental health. The method is there yes, but not the ability to discuss with others, weigh your options, and access help before you make the decision. Sanctioned suicide is not only the ability to take yourself out, it's the ability to be open about it before you do so.
 
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Demian

Demian

Experienced
Mar 25, 2024
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That's because suicide itself is still taboo, as is mental health. The method is there yes, but not the ability to discuss with others, weigh your options, and access help before you make the decision. Sanctioned suicide is not only the ability to take yourself out, it's the ability to be open about it before you do so.
Perfect!

That's exactly it!
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
38,946
No, I don't believe so, I imagine that many would choose to permanently free themselves from this meaningless, hellish and harmful existence if they had access to a guaranteed, peaceful way with no risks involved. I'm only still trapped here as suicide is pretty much illegal and there isn't the option for me to reliably die in peace, under no circumstances would I ever wish to suffer in this existence that was always undesirable in the first place.

It'd always prefer to peacefully not exist than to die a slow painful death tortured by old age, it terrifies me how humans can potentially exist for so long in an existence where there is no limit as to how torturous it can get. In my case suicide is suffering prevention, for me it's all that feels rational to escape from the cruelty and futility of existence, I really despise how Nembutal isn't accessible, it's sadistic to deny people painless ways to die even know we exist in this world filled with endless suffering.
 
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doneforlife

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Jul 18, 2023
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Suicide practically is sanctioned in my country. I can drive down the street and buy a shotgun right now. This is one of the most effective suicide methods in existence.

Yet, suicidality is only going up for middle-aged white men, not down. Having easy access has not brought mental relief to these people. There's other factors at play here.
I still don't think it's an effective method.
 
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sserafim

sserafim

brighter than the sun, that’s just me
Sep 13, 2023
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Then no need for sanctioned-suicide.net anymore
 
Ash’Girl

Ash’Girl

Girl, Interrupted
Apr 29, 2022
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I have actually told medics and counsellors before that if the option for referral to pursue medically assisted death was available for me I would take it, and that it was based on a logical, rational evaluation of the pros and cons of living versus dying. I made a counsellor cry by talking about this (I think he was crying in empathy, but who knows).

The fact that I could and can detail my rationale in a fairly calm and detached manner, I think bothered a lot of them because it doesn't fit the stereotype of what they think of as a suicidal person (heightened emotion, erratic, not able to make informed choice because of these factors).

My stance hasn't changed over time either. It persists. It's consistent. If suicide were sanctioned even with rules in place for sign off I'd have been approved for it and be gone by now. Unfortunately, it's not.
 
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