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raybd

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Well looks like lot of suppliers in India but no one seems reliable. What happens if your SN is bad? I know it's covered a bit in the mega-thread - but don't think the exact scenario here is: I live alone. No one will miss me or even look for me for a few days - if ever. There's no 911 or such here. It's friggin' India. If it fails, something goes awry, I got to handle it myself. If you are found I think it's the slammer or such. Further, I am an American in India, and quite broke by now with the medical bills adding up. So, what happens is the SN is bad or doesn't make a lethal dose?
 
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It depends... When did the SN expire? Is it sealed tight or is it open? SN should be in good condition for 3 years until it loses effectiveness over time. The thing with bad SN is you'd more than likely need to ingest more of it, which won't taste good, and it might not even be successful as there is that uncertainty.
 
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raybd

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Well, sealed tight, 1.5 years old - still this is India - can't trust. plan 30g for 25g. not even sure it is SN even if says on the box.
I mean to say - won't know if the SN bombed until I've gone through with it...
 
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So it expired recently, which means it is still pretty effective. 30mg should be fine, I think. Do you any of the other materials that will help the SN method be more successful? Antiemetic / antacid?

Also check this out if you haven't yet:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-a-comprehensive-guide-including-method.25148/
 
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Ineedtobedead

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Well, sealed tight, 1.5 years old - still this is India - can't trust. plan 30g for 25g. not even sure it is SN even if says on the box.
I mean to say - won't know if the SN bombed until I've gone through with it...
You can test a couple grain of the salt with a drop of blood i guess
 
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Daniela

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Sorry if this exasperates anyone, but what does "tightly sealed" mean? That it was never opened? Simple as that? Does
 
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raybd

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So it expired recently, which means it is still pretty effective. 30mg should be fine, I think. Do you any of the other materials that will help the SN method be more successful? Antiemetic / antacid?

Also check this out if you haven't yet:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-a-comprehensive-guide-including-method.25148/
Yes I read it - doesn't cover a fringe situation like mine -- if SN it isn't, or half-dose, no one will find you for a week, no 911 - etc.
Yes I read it - doesn't cover a fringe situation like mine -- if SN it isn't, or half-dose, no one will find you for a week, no 911 - etc.
And how do you say 1.5y is expired??? the people sell it as "new"... meat is fresh meat in india mostly - packaged meat needing preservatives is only now cathcing on - meaning not much use for SN...
 
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As long as it is actually SN... it will kill you. There are cases with only 2gms and it was deadly. So the recommended 25gm are way overkill... even if it has lost some of his effectiveness the toxicity is still lethal....
 
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raybd

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As long as it is actually SN... it will kill you. There are cases with only 2gms and it was deadly. So the recommended 25gm are way overkill... even if it has lost some of his effectiveness the toxicity is still lethal....
Good to know...thanks. I guess the way things work in India - got to give it a try or take it to a lab first... My fear - if SN doesn't work - I hope it leaves me well enough to catch the next bus...
 
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If it's only 1.5yrs and sealed tight, if it's real SN it would only be halfway through its shelf life and would still be lethal at the recommended dose.
 
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raybd

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If it's only 1.5yrs and sealed tight, if it's real SN it would only be halfway through its shelf life and would still be lethal at the recommended dose.
normally yes, but.... this is in a twilight zone called india.... :))
I have half a mind to give on the CTB project... I figure - since I live in India, I must already be dead.
 
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normally yes, but.... this is in a twilight zone called india.... :))
I have half a mind to give on the CTB project... I figure - since I live in India, I must already be dead.
It could be in bumfuck nowhere, point still stands(not meaning this in a rude way. It doesn't really matter where the SN is from, only that it's pure). If it's legit SN, it would still be good at the age it is, having never been opened.

The real issue is you'd have to open it and find a way to test it, in order to make sure it's legit or not. I was merely stating the fact that, if the shelf life of unopened SN is 3yrs, what you have would still be lethal, assuming it's the real deal.
 
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raybd

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It could be in bumfuck nowhere, point still stands(not meaning this in a rude way. It doesn't really matter where the SN is from, only that it's pure). If it's legit SN, it would still be good at the age it is, having never been opened.

The real issue is you'd have to open it and find a way to test it, in order to make sure it's legit or not. I was merely stating the fact that, if the shelf life of unopened SN is 3yrs, what you have would still be lethal, assuming it's the real deal.
In the wonderful land of India, it can say Sodium Nitrite on the sticker, with a lot of seals and license numbers and still be Sodium Chloride inside. How do you deal with that kind of crazy?
I AM thinking of testing it in a lab - been worrying some others from India too the state of affairs en Inde ... I'm a New Yorker in India - the other 2 are Indians.
In the wonderful land of India, it can say Sodium Nitrite on the sticker, with a lot of seals and license numbers and still be Sodium Chloride inside. How do you deal with that kind of crazy?
I AM thinking of testing it in a lab - been worrying some others from India too the state of affairs en Inde ... I'm a New Yorker in India - the other 2 are Indians.
And even if I get it tested, I'd suspect the testing center... given it is India... and everything is bent.
 
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Then maybe find a way to get hold of something else? There are many things not banned in India, that are banned elsewhere. For example. this can be prescribed for just mild pain and is lethal. https://www.medindia.net/doctors/drug_information/propoxyphene.htm Where there is a will, there is a way. Tramadol is another that comes to mind.
 
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raybd

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If we're going to hard work it - enough tylenol can take you out.... tramadol can cause seizures... dangerouns drug
half the world's meds are now contract manufactured in india - and more than half of them regularly fail FDA inspections
 
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To be fair, I'm not the one that keeps using the country as the excuse to not find a way to test something......you wanted to know how to 'deal with that kind of crazy' in regards to fake SN and I gave a suggestion of what's available there, that works. Don't want the suggestion, then don't take it.

Good luck with whatever you decide on.
 
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raybd

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To be fair, I'm not the one that keeps using the country as the excuse to not find a way to test something......you wanted to know how to 'deal with that kind of crazy' in regards to fake SN and I gave a suggestion of what's available there, that works. Don't want the suggestion, then don't take it.

Good luck with whatever you decide on.
come to india and see for yourself. half the autolyzers in the labs are never calibrated regularly. Scientific precision is rare in India.
 
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ArtVandelay

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come to india and see for yourself. half the autolyzers in the labs are never calibrated regularly. Scientific precision is rare in India.

You can test it yourself using an aquarium test kit:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-an-aquarium-testing-kit-rough-version.18188/
 
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Shivani

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come to india and see for yourself. half the autolyzers in the labs are never calibrated regularly. Scientific precision is rare in India.
Not sure what keeps you in India with the kind of opinion you are expressing
 
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raybd

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come to india and see for yourself. half the autolyzers in the labs are never calibrated regularly. Scientific precision is rare in India.
Not sure what keeps you in India with the kind of opinion you are expressing
Illness. Not worth traveling back to the US. The Chem/Biochem/Pharma manufacturing sector is the most corrupt manufacturing sector in all of Indian industry.
You can test it yourself using an aquarium test kit:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-an-aquarium-testing-kit-rough-version.18188/
Yes - testing it is what I was thinking.... see this: https://tinyurl.com/uptnaje
Actually getting an assay done at a lab is like Rs. 1500 I heard. Cheaper. Aquarium kit is like 700. I would just run it to a lab - need to find a stooge to do that.... since I can't get there myself.
 
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