What happens to our phones after we die?

[thaelyana]

Hello,

What actually happens to our phones after someone CTB ?

My friend died by suicide exactly one month ago, and I was called in by the police two weeks later. I didn't have much to add, but they told me they were trying to unlock her phone to maybe understand why she did it.

She had an iPhone, and they said they couldn't force the phone open, and that Apple wouldn't help.

So… how is it that sometimes investigators still manage to log into accounts or websites after someone passes? I don't really understand how that works — I'm not tech-savvy.

And now I keep wondering: is it even possible to "leave" without having your privacy invaded? Can someone really rest in peace like that?

 

[Hollowman]

If you're worried about it destroy it before you ctb.

 

[Alreadylate]

The fucking police bothering forever and ever, I'm looking forward for the apocalypse to come and people destroying them

 

[thaelyana]

If you're worried about it destroy it before you ctb.

Yes I'm worried about it but I think that even if I destroy it maybe they can find things on me? Because there are some who say they have reset their phone and computer and yet a few days later they are connected (or rather the police? The family?) I don't understand how it's possible! In the case of my friend no one could open her phone..

The fucking police bothering forever and ever, I'm looking forward for the apocalypse to come and people destroying them

They have a weaker power than we think I imagine.. in France anyway. EVEN for computers because I was asked for her phone code and that of my friend's school computer.. They didn't even know how to reset the code of a high school computer when it seems simple to me?

 

[GuppyBoyo]

that is one interesting question tho, might have to research that

 

[Box]

you can use software like veracrypt to encrypt your drive, as long as no one else knows the key, it will be 100% safe there.

Because there are some who say they have reset their phone and computer and yet a few days later they are connected

yes, deleting files and sometimes even resetting the OS does not guarantee that the data is lost. i can recommend watching

 

[thaelyana]

you can use software like veracrypt to encrypt your drive, as long as no one else knows the key, it will be 100% safe there.

yes, deleting files and sometimes even resetting the OS does not guarantee that the data is lost. i can recommend watching

WELL thank you very much for the video. I would not feel respected if someone dared to spy on my writings, my confidences! Like shit, if I confided in them, my family or whatever, it's because I didn't feel the need or the desire...

 

[Esc9434]

I'm tech savvy, but I never really been deep into devices like phones and such.

So anyone, please feel free to correct anything I may say wrong.

When you think about the digital footprints that we may leave behind after death, your phone is probably the last thing you have to worry about.

Outside of privacy-based chat apps, like Signal and Telegram (when using secret chat), that boast end-to-end encryption, all your data is essentially still available, but people will have to jump through hoops to get it.

If anyone knows the email addresses you use, then they can access a lot of your digital footprints.

Your family just have to show email service providers your death certificate to get full access.

LEOs can get warrants to get your data from these email service providers and any other service they deem necessary. All LEOs need to know is your IP address and what site you are using. They don't need exact details unlike your family.

Anyways, that is all I'm going to say about this matter.

Main takeaway, leave a fucking note. Equally important, direct attention away from this site by telling loved ones who are directly responsible for your ctb and not to avenge you outside of those people. Ctb was your decision and your decision alone.

Thank you.

More after the fact: Your family will need your phone to get around any two factor authentication. Some services send you a code through SMS. Other services require you to use a third party authenticator app which will require your unlocked phone. Anyways, if your family has access to whatever email address, then they can just reset your passwords to get access to whatever service they need.

 

[thaelyana]

I'm tech savvy, but I never really been deep into devices like phones as such.

So anyone, please feel free to correct anything I may say wrong.

When you think about the digital footprints that we may leave behind after death, your phone is probably the last thing you have to worry about.

Outside of privacy-based chat apps, like Signal and Telegram (when using secret chat), that boast end-to-end encryption, all your data is essentially still available, but people will have to jump through hoops to get it.

If anyone knows the email addresses you use, then they can access a lot of your digital footprints.

Your family just have to show email service providers your death certificate to get full access.

LEOs can get warrants to get your data from these email service providers and any other service they deem necessary. All LEOs need to know is your IP address and what site you are using. They don't need exact details like your family.

Anyways, that is all I'm going to say about this matter.

Main takeaway, leave a fucking note. Equally important, direct attention away from this site by telling loved ones who are directly responsible for your ctb and not to avenge you outside of those people. Ctb was your decision, and your decision alone.

Thank you.

Oh. I see.. Damn. Thank you very much for the information. It's crazy anyway! There is no way not to authorize this BEFORE we die?? Is this kind of mandate long to have?

Why didn't they do that for my friend? They were just waiting for someone to kindly provide them with the code.. lol

Soit la famille se souvient du mot de passe, soit ils le trouvent écrit quelque part après avoir parcouru vos affaires.

No one knows my MDP except my little sister, I will change it if I have to CTB.

Et non, si vous avez une famille, il y a de fortes chances que votre vie privée soit envahie, à moins que vous ne détruisiez tout.

I'm outraged, it hurts a lot. Someone will see my latest research etc. So someone who doesn't know me will still know MY WHOLE LIFE.. Fiou.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

When we die, our phones will sprout legs and walk away. To where? We still don't know the answer to that question.

 

[thaelyana]

Are we die, our phones will sprout legs and walk away. To where? We still don't know the answer to that question.

Hahaha. Maybe !! who know

 

[Esc9434]

Hahaha. Maybe !! who know

I added some more stuff to more post. Please read.

 

[thaelyana]

Votre famille aura besoin de votre téléphone pour contourner toute authentification à deux facteurs. Certains services vous envoient un code par SMS. D'autres services vous obligent à utiliser une application d'authentification tierce qui nécessitera l'accès à votre téléphone. Quoi qu'il en soit, si votre téléphone a accès à n'importe quelle adresse e-mail, il peut simplement réinitialiser vos mots de passe pour avoir accès au service dont il a besoin.

Oh yes! Well, so you have to put a punk code? Throw away your sim card? Thank you for your research and information

 

[Esc9434]

Oh yes! Well, so you have to put a punk code? Throw away your sim card? Thank you for your research and information

Well, I'm not phone expert. However, couldn't you just turn off all notifications? Even SMS?

You don't have to worry about third party authenticator apps giving up the code. You have to manually open the app to get the code. Cannot do that with a locked phone.

 

[thaelyana]

Cependant, ne pourriez-vous pas simplement désactiver toutes les notifications ? Même par SMS ?

Oh yes also LOL it's easier. Thank you very much!! For me you are an EXPERT

 

[cemeteryismyhome]

I'll be dead so I really don't care.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I imagine they can get in to some devices and trace our online footprint. They'd need to in order to gather evidence in the cases of obtaining criminal evidence. I wonder if they usually bother though. I would think it must be a drain on resources. Did anything look suspicious about their death do you know? I'm guessing they didn't leave a note.

I think that's one reason a note is good. It gives people a rough idea on why we did it. Plus, it confirms to the police that it was an un-assisted suicide.

 

[thaelyana]

I'll be dead so I really don't care.

It's also a possibility, in real life we don't care but I want to leave a beautiful image of myself.. imagine that they discover that I was an adult video addict and that in addition I was talking to suicidal people and that I wished them a happy birthday too much information at once

I imagine they can get in to some devices and trace our online footprint. They'd need to in order to gather evidence in the cases of obtaining criminal evidence. I wonder if they usually bother though. I would think it must be a drain on resources. Did anything look suspicious about their death do you know? I'm guessing they didn't leave a note.

I think that's one reason a note is good. It gives people a rough idea on why we did it. Plus, it confirms to the police that it was an un-assisted suicide.

My friend had not left any notes anything!! The story is weird, even I don't know what happened. She looked good. They especially wanted to know that there was no intervention by a third party. She jumped out of the window but her family PERSISTS in saying that she just accidentally fell... I guess that's why they didn't push the cork further
Personally I am sure it is a suicide: she had been absent for two weeks before she fell out of the window. She did not respond to messages yet she received messages on WApp and her family did not warn our high school. They say she died suddenly but good God I would like to know what happened during the 2 weeks without news.. She who was so diligent.

She told me that she had confided in a doctor once in the middle of a meal in the canteen but did not want to be detailed, I did not force

 

[bankai]

You can always consider going the hammer route.I remember 1 user here saying that they were going to destroy their laptop and phone with a hammer.

I have an Android phone, an iPad and a laptop.I've always considered destroying them physically close to CTB


But I still feel like that would be a terrible waste. I mean, someone else could use this stuff.


Privacy is definitely an issue though. Use 2FA for everything.Getting rid of your SIM card is also a smart thing to do.

 

[thaelyana]

You can always consider going the hammer route.I remember 1 user here saying that they were going to destroy their laptop and phone with a hammer.

I have an Android phone, an iPad and a laptop.I've always considered destroying them physically close to CTB


But I still feel like that would be a terrible waste. I mean, someone else could use this stuff.


Privacy is definitely an issue though. Use 2FA for everything.Getting rid of your SIM card is also a smart thing to do.

YES LOL.
Thanks to him for this great hammer idea, he was right. Our life must remain private, I still think of the people whose families complain about the site!! Of 1- they are no longer anonymous and of 2- who allowed them to disclose all their private lives

Privacy is definitely an issue though. Use 2FA for everything.Getting rid of your SIM card is also a smart thing to do.

No way our operators can leak our SIM data? Last calls, messages, or can access our messages remotely?

 

[bankai]

YES LOL.
Thanks to him for this great hammer idea, he was right. Our life must remain private, I still think of the people whose families complain about the site!! Of 1- they are no longer anonymous and of 2- who allowed them to disclose all their private lives


No way our operators can leak our SIM data? Last calls, messages, or can access our messages remotely?

I'm sure they will leak our data. I don't think the dead have any right to privacy. Actually, I do think they have a right to privacy, but I don't think these guys respect the dead.

They will try every option available to them, legal or illegal

You brought up a very valid question though. I'm sure no one here wants any of their private data viewed by anyone else after they CTB

 

[thaelyana]

We are condemned to live just because we were born, beautiful lol

Thanks

 

[Promised Heaven]

This is a United States focused answer, saying ahead of time because I'm not sure if you're from there since you mentioned France.

There are machines dedicated to cracking phones' intended security but it can only be used if they have a warrant. Not all police stations have these, I'm surprised it didn't work. Police may request social media companies to hand over this information with a warrant as well. They don't nesscarily have to share passwords, but all private messages, exports, posts, etc. they may.

People sometimes factory reset their devices or destroy it before CTB knowing the police would be investigating their devices. Not all data gets erased in a "fully gone" manner though, it'll just overwrite the files as your storage nears full to the point it's corrupted and cannot be obtained anymore. A full phone encryption or applications dedicated to overwriting your storage over and over to corrupt them is another option.

Your phone will be searched regardless of how you die if your death is premature, like a murder, accident, etc. Police just want an answer to why things happen to bring closure, and unfortunately, a suicide note won't be enough for them.

 

[thaelyana]

@Promised Heaven Thank you for your answer.

Votre téléphone sera recherché quelle que soit la façon dont vous mourez si votre décès est prématuré, comme un meurtre, un accident, etc. La police veut juste une réponse à la raison pour laquelle les choses arrivent à se fermer, et malheureusement, une note de suicide ne leur suffira pas.

That's what interested me the most.. I have nothing to hide either but my phone is like my little world: it is personality, I take care of it etc. I'm sad that we can rummage inside.. THANK YOU for your great answer, have a good evening!