Just wondering what the general views are on this website about what happens when we die.
Dreamless Sleep
The eternal night before chaos...
- Feb 1, 2020
- 190
I think our consciousness leaves our body and travels to a different realm. I'm convinced by the millions of near-death experience stories out there.
I picked eternal nothigness but I'm glad the second most voted option was something unrelated to religions. If that were the case, I'd bet we're really living in a simulation and we wake up, we'll discover what the hell was really going on and a new world.
Maybe we were given the possibility to simulate the past of the earth, and are actually in some spaceship sleeping, playing this strange game, called life.
Maybe we were given the possibility to simulate the past of the earth, and are actually in some spaceship sleeping, playing this strange game, called life.
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Enlightened
- Jun 4, 2020
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TheAntidote87
I'm gonna try to nullify my life
- Jul 26, 2020
- 48
Sounds cool at first thought until you realize it just begs the question about where then those running the simulation came from? It becomes a perpetual 'God of the gaps' eventually you have to come to a ending point where this answer no longer satisfies.
LonelyNick
They/Them, He/Him
- Jul 15, 2020
- 262
Living eternally? No thank you. The Good Place talks about that. There needs to be a final end.
Heall yeah, I know. One theory says that there are many simulations but the question is the same as in any religion: "who created the creator?"
I think we are nerfed and just can't know about it and if we're really in a simulation, we'll discover what it was but I don't think it has nothing to do with souls, heaven and hell.
Or maybe, it really is eternal nothingness and there's just nothing and nobody waiting for us when we die.
That really bothers me because a universe from nothing? so odd. Yes I know, big bang, but before that? and before? haha it's everlasting and "I'm dying" to know lol
Brick In The Wall
2M Or Not 2B.
- Oct 30, 2019
- 25,158
I believe it's some sort of amalgamation of different belief structures. But I don't believe there's nothing. I didn't see an other option or I would've voted that.
TheAntidote87
I'm gonna try to nullify my life
- Jul 26, 2020
- 48
Yep and the universe being eternal even before the Big Bang makes no sense because of entropy. So there really has to be something outside of the universe I think. Something eternal or at least not subjected to the Physical laws of this one.
Sensei
剣道家
- Nov 4, 2019
- 6,336
If you would have asked me one and a half year ago, I would have said that death is eternal and dreamless sleep. Now I'm not so sure anymore and I don't know what to think of it. Is it simply a product of imagination and superstition? Perhaps, perhaps not. Not that it really matters, though. We're all going to die at some point, so if there's something beyond death we can't escape it anyway.
If that's the case, then I don't want to play this game anymore.
If someone is reading this message in digital code on the spaceship in that higher dimension, then I want out. Wake me up now please....
Hahah yeah seriously.
I always wonder why the supposedly guy controlling me is such a jerk and made me like this. He should buy the premium items and see if I finally see a light in this seemingly eternal darkness.
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What did you vote for?
I think there could be something, but I don't think the traditional religions of the east or west have the exact answers. Maybe an amalgamation, like you said.
Could be something like an n-dimensional quantum dreamscape, except much more vivid than a dream and full of weird unimaginable beings.
Like a DMT experience. But I have no idea what the meaning or purpose of such a dimension could be (just as we ask the philosophical question 'why is there something rather than nothing?' when referring to the physical universe and life in it, we could also ask that same question of whatever the post-life realm turns out to be..)
Brick In The Wall
2M Or Not 2B.
- Oct 30, 2019
- 25,158
I just went with "don't know." Which is technically the correct answer for all of us. None of us have any way of knowing. It's fun to speculate though.
So this universe could be embedded within a much larger multiverse, that multiverse could even be billions of times bigger than this universe.
But then you can always ask, why does any of it exist, and is there anything outside of that multiverse?...Or maybe the multiverse is eternal, but is it possible for something physical to be eternal? Perhaps past and future don't apply to the multiverse as a whole. We'll probably never know.
For this very reason I have an odd feeling that human beings minds are "nerfed" and no matter how much technology advances, we'll never know the very beginning of everything because even if we became an intergalatical species, we'd still have no clue about what was before everything. It's soooo strange and I just can't stop thinking about it.
What's more, most humans who tend to live a "normal" life never wonder about all this. I just can't understand how they are not SURPRISED about the amazingness of simply existing and also never ask themselves: "where the hell did it all start?" (although most times their answers are "God did it." and they're happy with that lol.)
Yes, 'don't know' is really the honest answer.
I've just seen a lot of threads and messages on SS about life after death, religious beliefs etc, and thought it would be fun to do a poll to gauge people's intuitions and assumptions statistically.
Maybe a poll like this has already been done, but I haven't been on this site long.
TheAntidote87
I'm gonna try to nullify my life
- Jul 26, 2020
- 48
The multiverse theory is interesting to think about, but, yeah, when used as an explanation it basically just becomes the simulation theory but in the opposite direction. If the multiverse subjected to the same physical laws as our universe then it can't be eternal. And no something physical can't be eternal because of the law of entropy (all things tend towards decay and motionlessness). So, if you think about consciousness, if it's something apart from our brains and immaterial then it could be eternal.
On the bright side, people that dumb and shallow don't end up on websites like this like us. I'd almost rather be dumb and oblivious.
You're goddamn right. Being intelligent is our curse lol
I know...Simply being aware of anything at all is so strange. Imagine that somehow consciousness is built into matter at a subatomic level;the more complex chemical combinations become, the more 'awareness' results, until you get to biological systems like plants, insects, and eventually animals and humans, who have a high level of awareness, even self-awareness. So there is this underlying consciousness pervading the universe, which is maybe only a form of potential consciousness at the subatomic level. It sort of connects everything, and an individual animal or plant or whatever is like a complicated antenna which allows the consciousness to tune in to the frequencies of this universefrom the very localized point of view of that particular living thing.Then the question still remains, why I am I experiencing the underlying cosmic consciousness from the particular point of view of the person who is supposed to be me? Granted, if a living being is born, then it has to be conscious and experiencing the world, unless zombies are possible, but why did it happen that 13.8 billion years into the history of the universe, I was born with this awareness as this particular being and not another being, or instead of remaining eternally unconscious as I assume was the case before birth.
I am just actually trying to get my head round and articulate the utter bizarreness of existing at all. It is very difficult when you try to get down to the philosophically fundamental problem of existing at all, so maybe I was rambling and speculating a bit.
If it means suffering less and not being suicidal, i.e. being a bit happier and worrying less, then I'd have to agree.
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Wow, that really blew my mind and I'm just in your shoes.
Lately, I've been watching lots of philosphical, religious and scientific videos and the only answer I get is more doubts. However, the more stuff I watch and read, the more sure I am religion is undoubtedly SCAM and just fairy tales written by the effects of psychodelics. (mushrooms in this case, and that's why "Jesus" and the people thought he had really revived for sure lol
Well, maybe thanks to Elon Musk in a couple of years (or decades) we'll discover is there's some unknown intelligent life form on Mars. Only super intelligent beings could know the answer for all this nonsense show called LIFE. (or maybe not even them)
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Yes, a lot of religion probably is a scam. Having doubts is good...means you are thinking for yourself and being critical of information.
But I wouldn't write off the psychedelic experiences too quickly. It could be the case that psilocybin and dmt actually allow our brains to tune in to other frequencies of consciousness, like parallel dimensions. I mean, serotonin is the neuromodulating chemical which our brains normally use to build the 'consensus world'. The world we experience normally is actually a 'model' in our brains built using serotonin and other neurochemicals after photons bounce off objects, enter our retinas, and the optic nerve carries the signals to the visual cortex, etc. Taking dmt reduces serotonin levels, elevates the naturally occurring (though low-level) dimethyltriptamine quantities present in the brain, and produces totally alien experiences of four-dimensional kaleidoscopic worlds.
Who's to say that the everyday serotonin consensus-world is the real one, and the dmt world is just a hallucination?
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It's certainly interesting that we might be entering new "frequencies" by stuff such as dmt. I just had MDMA a few times but the effect is different because it's basically extreme happiness lol
Yes, mdma is different I think, because it's synthetic and created in a lab, whereas psilocybin and dmt are found in nature ('food of the gods' as terence mckenna would say). Did you actually have any hallucinations on mdma?
But I've never actually taken any psychedelic drugs, just read a lot of books and articles on them.
LetzteAusfahrt
Swiss gay, will definitely ctb on October 10th
- Jun 27, 2020
- 590
I picked eternal nothingness, but that's still too much for me.
I prefer the definition of "nothing"
I prefer the definition of "nothing"
Let's say I just "found a solution for every single problem and saw how wonderful life was"
Those high hours were the best but then, the other day comes and as you know, all the goes up must down... and being down after mdma sucks TOO MUCH! A hangover is a paradise in comparison to it.
TAW122
Emissary of the right to die.
- Aug 30, 2018
- 6,711
As an atheist, I believe that there would be nothingness, like eternal sleep after death, similar to that of not being born yet. This doesn't mean that there isn't a God(s), but that I don't have sufficient evidence nor a reasonable expectation to believe that there is a God.
Nature_is_God
The cause of suffering is the desire to exist
- Jul 27, 2020
- 150
On the surface, I think it's going to be like a dreamless sleep. Some people can't fathom being in that state, being in the void, but I think death is something unimaginable to everyone.
Deep down, I know I have no clue what death brings. I'm agnostic and I don't think I'll ever decide what happens after death. I don't think any human has the ability to know.
Deep down, I know I have no clue what death brings. I'm agnostic and I don't think I'll ever decide what happens after death. I don't think any human has the ability to know.
Has anyone seen the 1997 film called The Game with Michael Douglas? Spoilers ahead, if not.
I wonder if this film is like a metaphor for existence. A man - a wealthy banker - is given a gift for his birthday by his brother. It's a ticket for a game that will change his life. It's run by a company called Consumer Recreation Services. His character goes to their offices to apply but after a series of psychological and physical tests, he's told he's been rejected. From that point on, he's playing the game but he has no idea that he's playing.
So a series of events and challenges come his way and his life completely falls apart. His bank accounts are emptied and his mansion is foreclosed on. He's buried alive in Mexico at one point. It culminates in him thinking he's shot his brother to death and throwing himself off a building.
But the entire thing was fake and set up to help him grow as a person.
What if our "real" existence is our consciousness floating around in a state of pure love and perfection with no physical limitations on what we can do and where we can go? It's amazing but occasionally perfection can get boring and it doesn't allow our souls to grow because nothing challenges us. So we voluntarily incarnate in this hellish realm and the point of it is to love and have compassion for others? And we have no idea that we're playing this game while we're actually playing it.
I wonder if this film is like a metaphor for existence. A man - a wealthy banker - is given a gift for his birthday by his brother. It's a ticket for a game that will change his life. It's run by a company called Consumer Recreation Services. His character goes to their offices to apply but after a series of psychological and physical tests, he's told he's been rejected. From that point on, he's playing the game but he has no idea that he's playing.
So a series of events and challenges come his way and his life completely falls apart. His bank accounts are emptied and his mansion is foreclosed on. He's buried alive in Mexico at one point. It culminates in him thinking he's shot his brother to death and throwing himself off a building.
But the entire thing was fake and set up to help him grow as a person.
What if our "real" existence is our consciousness floating around in a state of pure love and perfection with no physical limitations on what we can do and where we can go? It's amazing but occasionally perfection can get boring and it doesn't allow our souls to grow because nothing challenges us. So we voluntarily incarnate in this hellish realm and the point of it is to love and have compassion for others? And we have no idea that we're playing this game while we're actually playing it.
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