Venting What happens after is holding me back from CTB

[JOkE2109]

The only thing that is really holding me back from CTB right now is what will happen after death. I'd like to view the subject scientifically and believe that consciousness only exists within the brain, and after it is dead I will be gone with it for good and not exist. But I also like to have an open mind. The thing is though, with religion, there are just so many different practices and believes. It's also hard for me to not think that they weren't just created to keep people submissive in fear of an afterlife of suffering instead of an actual belief to the faith, like how society keeps you submissive in fear of imprisonment. Still though, when you are planning to die, it's one of the things you think about. Thinking about it, it really comes down to the fear of the unknown embedded in our DNA, passive SI I guess? I just want to be able to peacefully enter nothingness, but there is really no way to be sure that's what will come. There also really isn't a way to be sure that a heaven or hell exists either. I want to be able to just say, "Well whatever, I'll get out of this world anyway" but fuck, it could just repeat all over again. I wish I could just lock myself into one belief and not have to think about it.

 

[Argo]

It's also hard for me to not think that they weren't just created to keep people submissive in fear of an afterlife of suffering instead of an actual belief to the faith

I think this is right, and that comes from someone indoctrinated/threatened with hell as a child so I understand how it can be hard to get past it. If you pay careful attention to how manipulative (consciously and unconsciously) humans are, and how everything is a survival strategy, that line becomes more clear. You could tell me that Judeo-Christian ideas originally came from baboons who could crudely express language, and it would not be the biggest plot twist imaginable.

Life was brutal and sociopathic as we wind history back, and the kings and queens needed memes to keep people marching if they wanted to "win". The only things that have changed today are the ways in which life is brutal, and a shift away from overt and towards covert antisocial behavior.

 

[logi3535]

i think its kind of interesting, the question has weighed on my mind a lot for some time and i usually do research when i'm uncertain about something, a lot of people note feeling peaceful as their life leaves, and then there are people who are clinically dead but get revived shortly, and even those people say how peaceful that feeling was, i remember reading about some people who actually got upset because the doctors brought them back to life, I'm not sure what happens after, and it is scary to think about, but I also believe that life is too complex for it to just... stop, so maybe we're still "alive" in a sense? yet the only people who can answer that aren't here with us, its pretty unfortunate

 

[steve021]

When suffering takes over the fear of death, there is no choice anymore. Then people just want to die. This has been scientifically proven with rats.

You've probably thought about life and death. You now put everything on a scale to see if you are making the right choice. I realize that I also struggle with that issue myself. There are so many possibilities of what can happen after death.

One thing I do know is that this life is not for me.

 

[FuneralCry]

I personally only believe and hope for eternal nothingness, in my case for this existence to peacefully disappear would be the only ideal outcome, it's comforting to think of eternally ceasing to exist. But anyway best wishes, I hope that you find peace eventually.