I have opened/tasted 1 little sip from 1 bottle of my liquid N and it tastes beyond awful. No words to describe. Tastes nothing like vodka or any other hard alcohol (including moonshine). It literally tastes like it should be injected and not drank. I don't know how in the hell I'm going to chug down 2 bottles of this stuff.
That's a lot worse than I imagined. The PPeH says,
"This is a clear liquid with a concentration of 60 mg/ml of sodium pentobarbital in alkaline buffered solution with 10% methyl alcohol and ethylene glycol. "
Methyl alcohol, methanol, the stuff used to 'denature' alcohol so it tastes horrible and people don't drink it, and can cause permanent blindness with just 10mL... If that is in the products people have, could it be that the manufacturers are adding it deliberately to deter this specific use, and also ethylene glycol? It doesn't say what the ratio of the two are in the 10% though, and ethylene glycol would probably be safe at that dose, I think. What if someone wakes up from it - has anyone on the forum ever woken up from a large overdose of veterinary N? Pretty cruel way to 'denature' euthanasia formulations to stop people drinking them, if true. Maybe these two chemicals even play a role in the overdose syndrome which is overshadowed by pentobarbital's effects.
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Guess it doesn't change anything - got to make sure you have the time undisturbed. I made that mistake and went through double the lethal dose of barbiturate OD but was found, and it was a pharmaceutical so no lasting toxic effects, but absolutely harrowing experience to come back from.
I'm curious now how big the contribution to bad taste is from these highly toxic additives, and how much from the N itself as would be seen in powder form. The man on the unedited clip of Terry Pratchett watching a man drink N from a clinic didn't seem too happy about the taste, but downed it without flinching too much.
you know I always thought Miracle berry pills might do the trick for this considering it's a taste modifier so bitter things should taste sweet.
That's a really clever idea, just ordered some. The miracle berry pills would need to be chewed so that the whole mouth, tongue, throat gets an even coating. Wikipedia says that it's pH-dependent in altering taste, could be that this bitterness is caused by a different mechanism to food bitterness, but only one way to find out. As pentobarbital can absorb through the tongue and mouth, and a dose even 1% of a 6.3g bottle would still be enough to have some effect, anyone trying this would need to be very careful to not swish it around their mouth then end up dozing off and spilling their bottle.
It's very hard to describe but think of a mix of liquid aspirin and petroleum. It's got a bitter, greasy, foul taste.
I'll manage but damn, will I be glad when it's in and it doesn't come out.
Tips…
Pour the two bottles in a cocktail shaker. That way, you don't have to see the amount you still have to go. You don't have to switch glasses/bottles during intake so you can fully concentrate on drinking and you'll have a firmer grip (both hands) if you're nervous and shaky.
Lay an ice cube on the back of your tongue before intake to sedate your taste buds. Take a spoon of honey or a shot of alcohol right before drinking. Use wadding while drinking so you don't have to smell it. Take another spoonful of honey or alcohol directly after intake.
I'll bear these in mind for when the time comes, thanks. Something else to consider could be a topical anaesthetic spray, like benzocaine spray (e.g. "Ultra Chloraseptic") or lidocaine if you have access. If you coat the mouth, tongue and throat, and hold the nose (or snort a little lidocaine powder numbing the sense of smell), anything should go in fairly easily. Or if not strong enough, could DIY a stronger spray using benzocaine (openly sold in powder form) or lidocaine (easily available on darknet) mixed into a refillable throat spray.
It's very bitter. The best way I can compare it is to the taste of MDMA. Very bitter/chemically. If you let the powder linger too long, you can start gagging a bit.
I felt it was easily washed down with a small glass of cold Coke. That being said, I took far less than the dose needed for ctb (max about 800-1G orally).
That still seems like a substantial dose, one enough to put you into deep sleep for a few days, or do you have a tolerance?
I've always found holding my nose works to block out some of the disgusting taste of vile drinks like barium. And immediately brush your tongue afterwards, maybe slosh around some mouthwash too.
I've been told the powder smells quite sickly and bitter, and the smell coming up through the nose could be crucial to avoid gagging. Better either block it or spray it until numb.
That's sad to hear.
No wonder one person on this forum actually spit out the N and didn't die.
It's gonna be a real hassle if I.go through all the preparations and then didn't die because N tastes too awful
The good thing about N is that if you follow the procedure, it's practically guaranteed to work unless you are found in a few hours as it absorbs to a level which stops breathing. I am an "edge case" with a particular medical problem which prevents antiemetic use, but most people aren't, and unless they change the veterinary preparation to something completely impossible to drink without vomiting (which I could see happening one day), it's not something most people need to worry about.
Keep in mind, hundreds, if not thousands, have drank it successfully.
Don't stare yourself blind on one failed attempt.
Yeah, I agree, so many people take this and end their lives, using the same kind of doses and procedure, the only factors which can realistically lead to failure are human factors like not making sure you cannot be found for the time required.
You can get a small funnel so it doesn't touch your tongue. If it don't touch tongue you will taste very little. Those who have tasted it said it is EXTREMELY bitter, and unable to tolerate, some started considering another method. Considering the peacefulness of the method, it seems definitely worth that horrible taste. But I would get a small funnel and use it carefully to bypass the tongue entirely.
This is a really good idea, I feel like these suggestions should be in the PPeH. The problem is I won't know whether the taste will be palatable until the moment comes, and by then it's too late. Best to use a combination of numbing/avoiding, without the antiemetic safety net - can't afford to have any gag reflex. The spray should take care of that.
