What does Exit International say about R2D Rebreather 2 in latest book?

[Lost Magic]

Does anybody know what the article says in the Peaceful Pill Handbook 2020 about the R2D ReBreather 2?

 

[Lost Magic]

Anybody?

 

[NormaJeane]

It is now, April 26, possible to buy The peaceful pill handbook 2021 from Amazon in the USA, 95 dollar. But it is not possible to see in the book, if Exit has written about R2D Rebreather II. And can we trust what they write anyway - how can anyone know if the device works? I do not know if I dare to use the Rebreather II, I fear the method will fail, it seems too good to be true, but I can not the technique with gas and exit bag, it will be too difficult for me.

 

[Zombiegal]

I got mine today. If you go to the respiro site you can order and on the page you can download instructions. There is also a slide show showing how to use. I have the link but not sure about posting.

everyone who ordered is getting and the science says it will work. Ifs the same as an exit bag but uses the mask.

inert gas is the epitome of peaceful pull ctb. And no puking.

 

[Lost Magic]

It is now, April 26, possible to buy The peaceful pill handbook 2021 from Amazon in the USA, 95 dollar. But it is not possible to see in the book, if Exit has written about R2D Rebreather II. And can we trust what they write anyway - how can anyone know if the device works? I do not know if I dare to use the Rebreather II, I fear the method will fail, it seems too good to be true, but I can not the technique with gas and exit bag, it will be too difficult for me.

Yeah, that's far too expensive for just one passage of information. I thought we would have some exit members on this forum tbh.

 

[Zombiegal]

I don't get why people think this won't work? People have been using exit bags for years. Why do you think they call it the Peaceful Pill Handbook? Inert gasses are the easiest and most peaceful way to go. You want to do SN and puke it all up? Go for it but this isn't something new someone thought up. It's just an updated version.

I have the rebreather II. just got it. It won't fail anymore than the first one or an exit bag if you follow the instructions. The exit bag is the same thing as this. The only even sort of hard part is the gauge and that's it. I was thinking this morning that would actually be easier because this has many components.

Instead of buy-in a hard copy of the PPH you can get online for 2 years for the same price with all the updates.

Anyway. Spend more time looking into options instead of just dismissing stuff out of hand.

 

[Lost Magic]

I don't get why people think this won't work? People have been using exit bags for years. Why do you think they call it the Peaceful Pill Handbook? Inert gasses are the easiest and most peaceful way to go. You want to do SN and puke it all up? Go for it but this isn't something new someone thought up. It's just an updated version.

I have the rebreather II. just got it. It won't fail anymore than the first one or an exit bag if you follow the instructions. The exit bag is the same thing as this. The only even sort of hard part is the gauge and that's it. I was thinking this morning that would actually be easier because this has many components.

Instead of buy-in a hard copy of the PPH you can get online for 2 years for the same price with all the updates.

Anyway. Spend more time looking into options instead of just dismissing stuff out of hand.

I have a cylinder bag and all that but getting the proper regulator has been a nightmare in the UK. Getting the correct tank pressure is essential. Yeah, I have no problem buying the R2 device in time, but the first iteration was not great and that put people off. It's worth looking into the new one, though, and from what I hear it has some significant improvements from the first design.

 

[Zombiegal]

I have the Max Dog Regulator but I saw a video in the PPHe and it seemed complicated with the connection to the tank. If I can figure that out it might be easier. I have the new one. This one they fixed the valve in the mask so it works, they put the soda lime in mylar bags and it now has 2 hoses. Also, before you couldn't take it out before use but now y ou can take everything out and get the mask to fit and see how all the connections are so you now you've got it, have the mask inflated right, the head straps on. I posted a picture of it here somewhere. You can see it on a mannequin.

 

[Lost Magic]

I have the Max Dog Regulator but I saw a video in the PPHe and it seemed complicated with the connection to the tank. If I can figure that out it might be easier. I have the new one. This one they fixed the valve in the mask so it works, they put the soda lime in mylar bags and it now has 2 hoses. Also, before you couldn't take it out before use but now y ou can take everything out and get the mask to fit and see how all the connections are so you now you've got it, have the mask inflated right, the head straps on. I posted a picture of it here somewhere. You can see it on a mannequin.

Cool. I am sure I will purchase it at some point and keep it as a backup to SN.

 

[Last chance]

I have a cylinder bag and all that but getting the proper regulator has been a nightmare in the UK. Getting the correct tank pressure is essential. Yeah, I have no problem buying the R2 device in time, but the first iteration was not great and that put people off. It's worth looking into the new one, though, and from what I hear it has some significant improvements from the first design.

Have a look at Greeberg's blog with regards to a regulator. The ones from escmode are apparently the best,theyre not cheap but you get what you pay for.

 

[Zombiegal]

@paulstrong i don't think they sell them anymore. You just need a certain size to fit a 20 cu ft tank. I paid $300 for mine.

 

[Lost Magic]

@paulstrong i don't think they sell them anymore. You just need a certain size to fit a 20 cu ft tank. I paid $300 for mine.

Actually, I am done with the exit bag method anyway. It already gave me too much heartache and it was costly.

 

[Last chance]

Actually, I am done with the exit bag method anyway. It already gave me too much heartache and it was costly.

Could you PM me where you ordered the gas from? Im looking for suppliers but going round in circles a bit. Thank you :)

 

[Lost Magic]

Could you PM me where you ordered the gas from? Im looking for suppliers but going round in circles a bit. Thank you :)

do you live in the uk?

 

[Last chance]

do you live in the uk?

Yeah.

 

[Lost Magic]

Yeah.

got mine from

Yeah.

how do I pm then?

 

[Last chance]

got mine from

how do I pm then?

Ive sent you one.

 

[tiredoflife1964]

Does anybody know what the article says in the Peaceful Pill Handbook 2020 about the R2D ReBreather 2?

It's reviewed quite favourably in the PPH (August e-edition) although I don't think there are many recorded cases of the use of the latest version so i don't think there are any hard statistics. It's quite simple and a closed system and doesn't require the purchase of any pressurised cylinders. You just re-breathe your own breath but it absorbs your CO2 so that that doesn't build up which would otherwise cause you to panic. The 2017 version is a much improved version with better seals and a better mask. No reason why it shouldn't work well. You can have a full read in the PPH

It is now, April 26, possible to buy The peaceful pill handbook 2021 from Amazon in the USA, 95 dollar. But it is not possible to see in the book, if Exit has written about R2D Rebreather II. And can we trust what they write anyway - how can anyone know if the device works? I do not know if I dare to use the Rebreather II, I fear the method will fail, it seems too good to be true, but I can not the technique with gas and exit bag, it will be too difficult for me.

This is from page 81 of the PPH (August e-edition)….


The 2020 model of the R2D DeBreather has been in the US by a Final Exit Network research team and by Exit International in the Netherlands. testing involve monitoring the level of oxygen and carbon dioxide the system. The unit was checked for ease of positioning of the chin strap, the effective sealing of the face-mask, and the overall comfort of the R2D.





US tests had three volunteers breathing down the oxygen to the pre-determined point of 14% which is equivalent to an altitude of 3000 meters. As one FEN researcher, Neal Nicol said, 'the mask was comfortable and it too only a few minutes to get the O2 level down, dropping at a rate of - 25 /min.There ws no significant rise in CO2 level and no leakage detected, even with a beard'. Time to loss of consciousness was predicted to take 10 mins.





In the Netherlands, an air pump circulated 12 litres of air through the closed system @2 litres/minute. A buying candle was used in the experiment - a candle consumes oxygen at approximately the same rate as an adult (250 ml/min). Level of oxygen and carbon dioxide in the system were monitored. Again, no detectable rise in CO2 was detected and the oxygen level dropped steadily until the flame was extinguished.





In all trials, when the facemask was fitted and the DeBreather attached it was found to be comfortable and breathing was easy. With the R2D Facemask it is possible to recline comfortably (unlike with the Exit Bag)





This means the DeBreather could be used outside, at the beach, in the forest etc. One could lie back and gaze at the stars. Drifting to one's death.








The original (1998) De-Breather was about 80% efficient (80% successful deaths) so the (2017) improved version that ships now should be even better.

 

[Robin]

 

[Walilamdzii]

I got mine today. If you go to the respiro site you can order and on the page you can download instructions. There is also a slide show showing how to use. I have the link but not sure about posting.

everyone who ordered is getting and the science says it will work. Ifs the same as an exit bag but uses the mask.

inert gas is the epitome of peaceful pull ctb. And no puking.

Any idea what someone could say the package is to avoid suspicion? Based on its size.. I don't know if I would manage to order one of these without it being discovered by people I live with.

 

[agate]

Could I pm anyone on here to ask if the device I'm thinking about buying is the same as described in this thread?
I just want to be sure , otherwise I'm buying some useless maybe.

Thanks

 

[lifeisbutadream]

It's reviewed quite favourably in the PPH (August e-edition) although I don't think there are many recorded cases of the use of the latest version so i don't think there are any hard statistics. It's quite simple and a closed system and doesn't require the purchase of any pressurised cylinders. You just re-breathe your own breath but it absorbs your CO2 so that that doesn't build up which would otherwise cause you to panic. The 2017 version is a much improved version with better seals and a better mask. No reason why it shouldn't work well. You can have a full read in the PPH

This is from page 81 of the PPH (August e-edition)….


The 2020 model of the R2D DeBreather has been in the US by a Final Exit Network research team and by Exit International in the Netherlands. testing involve monitoring the level of oxygen and carbon dioxide the system. The unit was checked for ease of positioning of the chin strap, the effective sealing of the face-mask, and the overall comfort of the R2D.





US tests had three volunteers breathing down the oxygen to the pre-determined point of 14% which is equivalent to an altitude of 3000 meters. As one FEN researcher, Neal Nicol said, 'the mask was comfortable and it too only a few minutes to get the O2 level down, dropping at a rate of - 25 /min.There ws no significant rise in CO2 level and no leakage detected, even with a beard'. Time to loss of consciousness was predicted to take 10 mins.





In the Netherlands, an air pump circulated 12 litres of air through the closed system @2 litres/minute. A buying candle was used in the experiment - a candle consumes oxygen at approximately the same rate as an adult (250 ml/min). Level of oxygen and carbon dioxide in the system were monitored. Again, no detectable rise in CO2 was detected and the oxygen level dropped steadily until the flame was extinguished.





In all trials, when the facemask was fitted and the DeBreather attached it was found to be comfortable and breathing was easy. With the R2D Facemask it is possible to recline comfortably (unlike with the Exit Bag)





This means the DeBreather could be used outside, at the beach, in the forest etc. One could lie back and gaze at the stars. Drifting to one's death.








The original (1998) De-Breather was about 80% efficient (80% successful deaths) so the (2017) improved version that ships now should be even better.

Even better? What does that mean? 80% success rate is not good enough.

 

[oono]

indeed it is not enough and not at all reassuring, knowing that if these failures end up like a vegetable ... the R2D method makes me dream, but the failure scares me too much, much too afraid. it is for this reason that I prefer sn, but I would like so much to leave with the R2D to be more peaceful and simply to breathe before falling asleep ... sad reality

 

[nautilus]

I have it and I Don't trust it at all. So wretched to realise this. I thought it was my answer

 

[agate]

Could someone in this thread pls pm me, I want to be sure I have the right link/item I'm looking at that's the same as in this thread.
thanks

 

[agate]

I have it and I Don't trust it at all. So wretched to realise this. I thought it was my answer

Hi, could you please pm me , so I can reply and ask if I have the right link/item ? Thanks

 

[agate]

I'm reading conflicting opinions of the rebreather2 . I fear it's too good to be true, but what other easy/painless method is there??
My other option would be gas, but that seems way too complicated

Can anyone say anything positive about the rebreather2?

 

[3691215]

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How much is this?

 

[Robin]

Wieviel kostet das?

190$