Discussion What do you think of this post?

[Dr Iron Arc]

Lol. The dude says the only time suicide is right is due to an incurable illness but wouldn't a severe gambling addiction qualify enough? Especially since it leaves people with less money to be able to get help.

Maybe almost everyone has a gambling addiction. Choosing to stay alive while there's no hope is already a huge risk. People who seem like they have everything going for them can be taken away due to things you were unaware of so I understand why this dude was angry and he can't be blamed for thinking typically as wrong as it may be.

 

[mpnf]

Who knows if he will experience it first hand at some point of his life. Hope he doesn't, it's not riding a roller coaster.

 

[Marktheghost]

I asked a question on City-Data forums "Why are suicides condemned more than homicides" and saw this response?

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Suicide is a permanent solution to all suffering, it's not selfish, and it doesn't hurt anyone any more than dying any other way.

 

[DeadButDreaming]

The author sounds like a dickhead who needs a kick in the teeth.

 

[FohPah]

Even if suicide is a "selfish act that hurts everyone you know", I don't see the problem with that. We don't owe anyone anything, because we didn't ask to exist.

 

[Nymph]

Nope not good

 

[Hewburt]

It's funny to me that they say the only acceptable time is due to an incurable illness. I would argue that I have an incurable illness, and many others here might feel similar to me. I have wanted to ctb since I was 9. I have a pretty ideal life by most people's standards. Medication, therapy, nothing helps or has helped. I live my life for other people basically but if I had a terminal illness I could have the doctor euthanize me and everyone would understand and not be so sad compared to ctb. it doesn't even make sense to me. Imagine living a life like this, struggling and suffering through every single day and then people are MAD at you for ending it? That's insane to me

 

[Sprite_Geist]

"Suicide does not solve anything. It is a selfish act that ultimately hurts everyone you know."

He says it hurts those that know you, but it doesn't take into account how hurt, or what hurt the suicidal person. Pro-lifers/anti-choicers always talk about how suicide affects others, but nobody talks about how their behaviour, or mistreatment affects a suicidal person in the first place. In fact some people are pushed into suicide because of others - like in case(s) of bullying. They never think about this though - it's always about them.

 

[ocd is bad]

Some people have never experienced being suicidal so they don't know what the hell they're talking about since they've only seen it from one side. If your opinion coincides with the way society feels then there's no reason to be informed.

The part about it "accomplishing nothing" is objectively wrong though, whether you like it or not it does accomplish a lot.

 

[Alec]

I asked a question on City-Data forums "Why are suicides condemned more than homicides" and saw this response?

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This person appear to me as if they are angry with themselves more and they pretend to be angry with others so as to not admit to themselves how much they hate themselves. It seems to me that this person knows that they wouldn't be strong enough to go through with suicide and are scared of suicide, so they are angry with themselves and think of themselves as weak, but they don't want to admit that so they project and instead are telling themselves that it's not them who is weak but rather people who go through with suicide. They convince themselves that suicidal people are weak and they project their anger at themself instead onto the suicidal people, because it's easier. They are afraid of facing suicide themselves and think they would never be strong enough for it so instead of dealing with it which would require them to be brave, they tell themselves that suicidal people are selfish(which would mean that they themselves are not selfish but rather care about those in their life and are also self righteous) and weak, because it's easier to hate and be angry at someone else then themselves, because then they can tell themselves that someone else is the problem and not them. In short, this is a scared and not a very intelligent or sharp it seems person, who doesn't know how to face dark and scary parts of life and reality.
I don't listen to those kind of people, it's just a waste of time, I could better spend that time reading some philosophy books or something of the sort and engage with someone/something more willing to face the truth and be brave and I actually grow as a person, mentally and emotionally.

"Suicide does not solve anything. It is a selfish act that ultimately hurts everyone you know."

He says it hurts those that know you, but it doesn't take into account how hurt, or what hurt the suicidal person. Pro-lifers/anti-choicers always talk about how suicide affects others, but nobody talks about how their behaviour, or mistreatment affects a suicidal person in the first place. In fact some people are pushed into suicide because of others - like in case(s) of bullying. They never think about this though - it's always about them.

Exactly, this! I fully agree. Prolifers are always talking about how it affects others and never talk about the pain and suffering a suicidal person is in. It's always about them. And then they call suicidal people "selfish". Prolifers are the ones that are selfish! Always were.

Some people have never experienced being suicidal so they don't know what the hell they're talking about since they've only seen it from one side. If your opinion coincides with the way society feels then there's no reason to be informed.

The part about it "accomplishing nothing" is objectively wrong though, whether you like it or not it does accomplish a lot.

I agree with this too, suicide can accomplish a lot.