What do you think of Reincarnation?

[monk-in-hell]

i wont say how but i am 1 million percent sure that both god and reincarnation exist
thankfully this life and this world gets wiped away forever when we die
in the next life i hope to be reincarnated as some kind of microbe

 

[grungy自殺]

If that was the case then i wouldn't count on being it the a peaceful insurance of knowing that you be in a different soul and continue on from the decease body that you where from

Because how you can be sure if there's a 1 in 5 (hell even 1 in 2) chance that you would end up in a different life that is 1000x times worse than the current life you have?

 

[fuewybfunsfoiceoi]

if reincarnation were to exist, then it would have little to do with the person I am now. Once I lose my memories, I would be considered to become someone entirely new. probably, no idea.

 

[Darkover]

You are obviously not familiar with the latest comparative research on the so-called "difficult problem of consciousness" phenomenon. It is interesting to mention the so-called Chalmers' (philosopher David Chalmers') five arguments in support of the fact that the phenomenon of consciousness cannot be explained by purely physical causes. Robert and Susan Mais worked on solving the "difficult problem of consciousness" using the method of scientific analysis for more than 40 years. You can read more about the whole issue at the following link: https://near-death.com/near-death-experiences-solve-the-hard-problem-of-consciousness/

Chalmers' Hard Problem of Consciousness

Claim: The "hard problem" asserts that subjective experience (qualia) cannot be explained by physical processes alone.

Progress in Neuroscience: Advances in neuroscience increasingly show correlations between brain activity and subjective experiences. For example, studies using fMRI and EEG reveal how specific brain regions are associated with perception, emotion, and thought. While the exact mechanisms are complex, these findings suggest that consciousness emerges from physical processes.

Chalmers' argument often relies on gaps in current understanding, implying that just because we don't yet fully explain consciousness physically, it must be non-physical. This is a form of the "argument from ignorance," which is logically flawed.

Many phenomena in nature (e.g., fluid dynamics or complex ecosystems) are emergent properties of simpler components. Similarly, consciousness may arise from the interactions of neural networks, even if this process is not yet fully understood.

While the "hard problem of consciousness" highlights current gaps in understanding, it does not prove that consciousness is non-physical or that it exists independently of the brain. Advances in neuroscience and cognitive science provide a growing body of evidence that consciousness arises from complex interactions within the brain. Extraordinary claims, such as those made by Robert and Suzanne Mays, require extraordinary evidence, which is currently lacking.

 

[CantDoIt]

Reincarnation could be real, check out the university or Virginias perceptual studies department. They just opened a new grant to study cases of the reincarnation type in young children.

 

[Overwhelmed52]

I've had signs that there is reincarnation and that what is "me" is separate from my body. However, that could also be wishful thinking on my part. I also have the sense that as much as I want to CTB at times, I have the sense that it would end my existence altogether or mess up my reincarnation path. But, when things are bad, I wouldn't mind ending my existence. Sometimes I feel like that would bring me a lot of peace.

 

[UglyInk]

Reincarnation means you will never escape this hellhole, I guess. Thus, I find it horrifiying. Also, you can be reincarnated into a worse life, like ending up in war or executed by cartels, for example.

 

[idelttoilfsadness21]

The thought of having another life after death is more comforting than the concepts of heaven and hell. I come from a religious family, and they give me no freedom. They put God before me, their own child, and have even said they would kill me if I did anything against their religion. Yeah, I know it's sad. I kind of wish I came from a Buddhist family it seems more peaceful. I feel sad that I have to waste my life and lose most of my opportunities just so I won't shame my parents. I feel stuck. I think nothing happens after we die, but I wish I could be given another chance at life. I want a new family that loves me. I want a better, new life.

I kind of wish there was something to look forward to, but there isn't, and it kills me every day :(

I personally want this so badly… even if this concept of existing is cruel. I'll take another life but even better… another universe!!!!

 

[Bruce]

I personally want this so badly… even if this concept of existing is cruel. I'll take another life but even better… another universe!!!!

It's commendable that you want to give it another go. I hope you'll be dealt a better deck of cards next time. : )

 

[SomethingOriginal]

The thought of having another life after death is more comforting than the concepts of heaven and hell. I come from a religious family, and they give me no freedom. They put God before me, their own child, and have even said they would kill me if I did anything against their religion. Yeah, I know it's sad. I kind of wish I came from a Buddhist family it seems more peaceful. I feel sad that I have to waste my life and lose most of my opportunities just so I won't shame my parents. I feel stuck. I think nothing happens after we die, but I wish I could be given another chance at life. I want a new family that loves me. I want a better, new life.

I kind of wish there was something to look forward to, but there isn't, and it kills me every day :(

The thought of having another life after death is more comforting than the concepts of heaven and hell. I come from a religious family, and they give me no freedom. They put God before me, their own child, and have even said they would kill me if I did anything against their religion. Yeah, I know it's sad. I kind of wish I came from a Buddhist family it seems more peaceful. I feel sad that I have to waste my life and lose most of my opportunities just so I won't shame my parents. I feel stuck. I think nothing happens after we die, but I wish I could be given another chance at life. I want a new family that loves me. I want a better, new life.

I kind of wish there was something to look forward to, but there isn't, and it kills me every day :(

Not too sure what I believe, but If I am reincarnated, I want to be reincarnated as a cat. No worries except my next meal. The world is your public toilet and your only responsibility is turning up at home every now and again so your owners know you're still alive.

 

[VVL]

off topic. I love your name

 

[crocune]

Chalmers' Hard Problem of Consciousness

Claim: The "hard problem" asserts that subjective experience (qualia) cannot be explained by physical processes alone.

Progress in Neuroscience: Advances in neuroscience increasingly show correlations between brain activity and subjective experiences. For example, studies using fMRI and EEG reveal how specific brain regions are associated with perception, emotion, and thought. While the exact mechanisms are complex, these findings suggest that consciousness emerges from physical processes.

Chalmers' argument often relies on gaps in current understanding, implying that just because we don't yet fully explain consciousness physically, it must be non-physical. This is a form of the "argument from ignorance," which is logically flawed.

Many phenomena in nature (e.g., fluid dynamics or complex ecosystems) are emergent properties of simpler components. Similarly, consciousness may arise from the interactions of neural networks, even if this process is not yet fully understood.

While the "hard problem of consciousness" highlights current gaps in understanding, it does not prove that consciousness is non-physical or that it exists independently of the brain. Advances in neuroscience and cognitive science provide a growing body of evidence that consciousness arises from complex interactions within the brain. Extraordinary claims, such as those made by Robert and Suzanne Mays, require extraordinary evidence, which is currently lacking.

basically. put enough computing power into a computer and have it replicate a brain the same way a prosthetic replicates a limb (except at a much higher degree of accuracy so that its the same as a real limb) then you would have created consciousness in the computer.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

You are obviously not familiar with the latest comparative research on the so-called "difficult problem of consciousness" phenomenon. It is interesting to mention the so-called Chalmers' (philosopher David Chalmers') five arguments in support of the fact that the phenomenon of consciousness cannot be explained by purely physical causes. Robert and Susan Mais worked on solving the "difficult problem of consciousness" using the method of scientific analysis for more than 40 years. You can read more about the whole issue at the following link: https://near-death.com/near-death-experiences-solve-the-hard-problem-of-consciousness/

Neither of them seems to have a specific background in neuroscience.

Robert G. Mays received a Bachelor of Science degree in chemistry from MIT and worked in software development at Eastman Kodak and later at IBM for more than 30 years, where he achieved the level of Senior Software Engineer. At IBM he specialized in software development process, software quality and software defect prevention. He was a co-recipient of IBM's first Corporate Quality Award in 1991. After leaving IBM, he taught high school chemistry for several years at different Waldorf schools in the U.S. and is now retired.

Suzanne B. Mays received an Associate in Applied Science degree in medical secretarial science from Alfred State College (SUNY), Alfred, NY and is a Certified Music Practitioner with training through the Music for Healing and Transition Program. As a Certified Music Practitioner, she provided palliative care to patients at UNC Hospitals and Duke University Medical Center. She also teaches lyre privately and at the Emerson Waldorf School.

Suzanne Mays seems to have an education background in applied medical secretarial science, which in no way qualifies her to study human consciousness. They don't mention having a specific background in neuroscience and seem to mainly work as a music practitioner. Robert Mays doesn't mention having any background in neuroscience, psychology, or even just medical science. He mainly has a background in chemistry and software development.

What you cited also doesn't seem to be a study from a reputable scholarly journal either. It's from a website whose reliability is questionable, based on some of the content on there. It doesn't help that they seem to have work published in the Journal for Scientific Exploration. This journal has been criticized for publishing pseudoscience and generally seems to have a bad reputation overall. These do not seem to be two individuals whose research and claims should be trusted.

@Darkover is right. So far scientific consensus is that consciousness arises from brain activity. There is no evidence for things like reincarnation, as far as the modern-day scientific community is concerned.

 

[Valhala]

Neither of them seems to have a specific background in neuroscience.





Suzanne Mays seems to have an education background in applied medical secretarial science, which in no way qualifies her to study human consciousness. They don't mention having a specific background in neuroscience and seem to mainly work as a music practitioner. Robert Mays doesn't mention having any background in neuroscience, psychology, or even just medical science. He mainly has a background in chemistry and software development.

What you cited also doesn't seem to be a study from a reputable scholarly journal either. It's from a website whose reliability is questionable, based on some of the content on there. It doesn't help that they seem to have work published in the Journal for Scientific Exploration. This journal has been criticized for publishing pseudoscience and generally seems to have a bad reputation overall. These do not seem to be two individuals whose research and claims should be trusted.

@Darkover is right. So far scientific consensus is that consciousness arises from brain activity. There is no evidence for things like reincarnation, as far as the modern-day scientific community is concerned.

I don't know if you read the article or if you only looked at the mentioned professional references of the author and the mentioned magazine, which according to you are enough to put the whole issue ad acta. No one claims that anything has been firmly proven, but the article certainly opens up some interesting and controversial questions. Personally I was most impressed by philosopher David Chalmers' approach to the so-called "difficult problem of consciousness" because the whole issue (given the current development and technical possibilities of neuroscience, both analytical and methodological) is still in some to the "interspace" between ontology and practical science.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

I don't know if you read the article or if you only looked at the mentioned professional references of the author and the mentioned magazine, which according to you are enough to put the whole issue ad acta. No one claims that anything has been firmly proven, but the article certainly opens up some interesting and controversial questions. Personally I was most impressed by philosopher David Chalmers' approach to the so-called "difficult problem of consciousness" because the whole issue (given the current development and technical possibilities of neuroscience, both analytical and methodological) is still in some to the "interspace" between ontology and practical science.

Dude, you are citing shit from a sketchy website. I'm not going to take research from there seriously. Anybody with basic common sense wouldn't take anything from that site seriously. Did you ever bother to actually look more carefully into your sources before just believing them? The article fails to open up anything because it's based on pseudoscience. Neither of the supposed researchers have any background in the fields needed to even be able to conduct the research they are doing and they have had their research published in a niche peer-reviewed journal that has a reputation for publishing questionable studies.

There is a plethora of research out there on consciousness that has been conducted by people with backgrounds in fields like cognitive neuroscience and that has been published in reputable journals. Why exactly are you relying on this shit for information consciousness? The hard problem of consciousness is already something that is discussed by many cognitive neuroscientists and I would implore you to look into their discussions on it instead.

 

[sunnyside]

I think reincarnation might be real just because there are too many stories of kids talking about their past lives like there was this boy who talked about his past live where he was Marty Martyn. At first glance I'd think nah that's fake. But there are so many of those storied. Also near death experiences freak me out too. People seeing the light n stuff.

 

[Davey36000]

Most likely true, but most people view themselves as reincarnating again as a human being on this planet, which is very limited in scope.

 

[Darkover]

basically. put enough computing power into a computer and have it replicate a brain the same way a prosthetic replicates a limb (except at a much higher degree of accuracy so that its the same as a real limb) then you would have created consciousness in the computer.

yes but Mathematics, on its own, doesn't directly create emotions, but it plays a crucial role in understanding and modeling systems that can lead to emotional experiences. In fact, math is often used to describe the complex interactions in our brains, our bodies, and the physical world, but emotions themselves arise from biological, psychological, and social factors, not from mathematical processes alone.

math itself does not create emotions. Emotions arise from complex biological processes in the brain, shaped by our nervous system, hormones, and psychological experiences. Math can model and describe the processes that lead to emotions (like the activity of neurons or the release of neurotransmitters), but it doesn't create emotions on its own. Emotions are subjective experiences that emerge from the interplay of biology, cognition, and environment.

However, when it comes to simulations or the idea of a simulated reality, math can be used to describe the physical and biological systems that would be involved in producing emotions. For example, an advanced simulation might include mathematical models of how the brain processes sensory information and emotional responses, and how various physical conditions (like temperature or pain) affect our feelings. In that case, while math doesn't create emotions directly, it could be used to model the processes that lead to emotional experiences.

 

[cantwait2bfree]

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The thought of having another life after death is more comforting than the concepts of heaven and hell. I come from a religious family, and they give me no freedom. They put God before me, their own child, and have even said they would kill me if I did anything against their religion. Yeah, I know it's sad. I kind of wish I came from a Buddhist family it seems more peaceful. I feel sad that I have to waste my life and lose most of my opportunities just so I won't shame my parents. I feel stuck. I think nothing happens after we die, but I wish I could be given another chance at life. I want a new family that loves me. I want a better, new life.

I kind of wish there was something to look forward to, but there isn't, and it kills me every day

It's a bunch of nonsense… the true reincarnation is having children . Not the disney remake some people believe

 

[Kriegsman]

I would like to start my life over even if the other option was to have a different life or heaven for there's a lot of mistakes that need to be fixed in the other timeline.