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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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Hitler: Starting a world war with million of deaths and committing an industrialised genocide

Epstein: being a pedocriminal, doing sex trafficking of minors, raping minors

764 community members: blackmailing minors into commmiting suicide by self-immolation and into self-mutilation

Here comes one question: Has Hitler killed anyone in the holocaust with his own hands? I think he rather directed the industrial genocide.

What is worse killing innocent people with your own hands or killing a way higher number of people indirectly for example by spreading a hateful ideology?

Is it unethical to even compare such crimes against humanity? Well, per definition Epstein did not commit a crime against humanity considering it was not committed in a war. Language matters.
I think we all can agree these people are monsters.

To which points do motivation play a role? Personally, I can rather understand a father who kills the rapist of his daughter than a sadist who tortures innocent victims over decades just for fun.

I have a weird relation to death which deviates from the one of other people. I think being a sadist who tortures people over decades is a worse than being a murderer who kills his victims without much pain involved. However, from the legal perspective murder is a way worse crime than torture without death.

Even when I was in better shape I always thought. If I died immediately all my problems were solved. There would be no pain for me after death. The biggest problems would emerge for my loved ones to cope with the loss. But for me I actually could not care less whether I simply stop existing if death was fast. There was no pain involved. The irony is people who think like probably experience a lot of pain in their life. And they experience if they want to end their lives on their own there will be a lot of pain involved.

For some people we on SaSu are the most rotten part of the internet. So perspectives play a role.
 
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FoxSauce

FoxSauce

Emotional unstable like and IKEA table
Aug 23, 2024
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Lie and manipulate for personal gain. Abuse bullying ect

There's a bunch more but Im too lazy to type
 
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TBONTB

Wizard
May 31, 2025
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Hitler: Starting a world war with million of deaths and committing an industrialised genocide

Epstein: being a pedocriminal, doing sex trafficking of minors, raping minors

764 community members: blackmailing minors into commmiting suicide by self-immolation and into self-mutilation

Here comes one question: Has Hitler killed anyone in the holocaust with his own hands? I think he rather directed the industrial genocide.

What is worse killing innocent people with your own hands or killing a way higher number of people indirectly for example by spreading a hateful ideology?

Is it unethical to even compare such crimes against humanity? Well, per definition Epstein did not commit a crime against humanity considering it was not committed in a war. Language matters.
I think we all can agree these people are monsters.

To which points do motivation play a role? Personally, I can rather understand a father who kills the rapist of his daughter than a sadist who tortures innocent victims over decades just for fun.

I have a weird relation to death which deviates from the one of other people. I think being a sadist who tortures people over decades is a worse than being a murderer who kills his victims without much pain involved. However, from the legal perspective murder is a way worse crime than torture without death.

Even when I was in better shape I always thought. If I died immediately all my problems were solved. There would be no pain for me after death. The biggest problems would emerge for my loved ones to cope with the loss. But for me I actually could not care less whether I simply stop existing if death was fast. There was no pain involved. The irony is people who think like probably experience a lot of pain in their life. And they experience if they want to end their lives on their own there will be a lot of pain involved.

For some people we on SaSu are the most rotten part of the internet. So perspectives play a role.
This is a lot of thinking about pain and death. The darkness "shines" through