Discussion What do you guys THINK it’s like to die?

[Soul]

Should have prefaced my claim with, "My own research has led me to believe," and closed it with, "I could be wrong."

About post-death musings...the development of language that, along with opposable thumbs, propelled human evolution, made us heavily reliant on symbols to make sense of each other, ourselves, and phenomena. I think it's quite possible that gods/devils, heavens/hells/limbos, and life/pre-life/afterlife may just be powerful symbols of our highest aspirations and deepest fears, symbols that help social beings self-regulate. If that's true, I'm pretty resentful of our biology. I don't understand why we would develop such an adaptive trait that would make us likely to be dependent on lies, but I've seen no convincing evidence to refute it.

You might enjoy this article:

Is God an Accident?

Despite the vast number of religions, nearly everyone in the world believes in the same things: the existence of a soul, an afterlife, miracles, and the divine creation of the universe. Recently psychologists doing research on the minds of infants have discovered two related facts that may...

www.theatlantic.com

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

You might enjoy this article:

Is God an Accident?

Despite the vast number of religions, nearly everyone in the world believes in the same things: the existence of a soul, an afterlife, miracles, and the divine creation of the universe. Recently psychologists doing research on the minds of infants have discovered two related facts that may...

www.theatlantic.com

I have read some Paul Bloom in the past. As is his way, he makes some good points but also has an agenda. Though the agenda isn't always clear, he reveals he has one when he uses fallacies of logic, such as those in this article in which he repeatedly defined the unknown inner thoughts and motivations of religious world leaders, or when he set up a strawman group with a strawman argument to knock down. He makes a lot of unsubstantiated claims with a tone of authority. There was no initial argument or thesis in the article, just a vague question followed by impressive but inconclusive meanderings. I think his agenda is that he seeks to confuse and knock down the audience.

Based on its insistent inconclusiveness, I'm not sure why you thought I would enjoy the article. However, I did enjoy the opportunity it presented to exercise my analytical skills.

 

[toomuchgrief]

lol at the 'the vast' majority of the world religion believe in afterlife, soul, spirit, etc... LOLLLLLL

Religion are passed down by "MOUTH" to mouth by our ANCESTOR. Human back then didn't have the science that are like today, human nature are afraid of death therefore they made up this whole afterlife to give them COMFORT.

Sure, why not after we die we still be "living" in some sort of the afterlife, sure sound give you comfort. Human are afraid non-exisitent, surely afterlife after we already death give us comfort, meaning we still can live even after we die (just a life in soul format, minus the physical body).

Sorry. Death is the end. Just like when you get put under, nothingness, no sense of self, nothing. You no longer know the Earth exist, let alone know yourself exist. You be back to the state just like before you born, before you have a physical brain.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

lol at the 'the vast' majority of the world religion believe in afterlife, soul, spirit, etc... LOLLLLLL

Yeah, that was another of Bloom's manipulative fallacies of logic -- the bandwagon effect. If the vast majority believe it, it must be true....

 

[toomuchgrief]

Yup.

The brain is powerful but once it dead, it dead. That's it. It the permanent end to our existent (both physical form and 'soul' form. I don't believe in such thing as a soul anyways).

Look, the world have 7 BILLIONS people. If you added that to our ancestor and thousands thousands years ago. Then damn, that must be TRILLIONS of the so call "afterlife soul" floating around out there in the so call heaven, hell, or whatever realm of world religion claim to exist after we die.

I laugh at the after we die we going to go to another realm and reunited with our ancestors, grandparents, parents, spouse, kids, pets, etc... I laugh. There must be trillions of soul floating around out there then in whatever realm, since nobody truly die, the soul live on forever. LOLLL
^^^ I can see how this above can give human "comfort", but that doesn't mean it real or exist.

Human scare to die, so we imagine is ideal world of the soul floating around reunited with loved one and continue live like how we were still alive, it just now dead, the afterlife. We just be living in soul/spirit form, minus the physical body.

Is death scary? Absolutely. But once you 'enter' the phase of death, you no longer be scare, why? Because you no longer know anything to be scare. Scare required a conscious to know, you no longer know what scare if once you dead.

 

[Reallyreallyreally]

Have you ever done a really big whip-it or played the pass out game? You have a really brief hallucination only seconds long, but which feels like it lasts an endless amount of time.

I think that you're aware of whatever happens to you in your last moments awake, then you have the hallucination, then nothing. What happens after that happens or doesn't.

 

[aloneintheworld]

I've always wondered that too. Maybe reality is a simulation and we are playing a game and we place ourselves here for some reason. Maybe we chose a life of suffering to learn some lesson.

Maybe the person who created the sims was onto something

 

[goomsoom]

Maybe the person who created the sims was onto something

But then it's a infinite loop of simulation and we will never be able to comprehend how from nothing anything can come into existence.

 

[itsmeagain]

This is so scary to think about. On one hand, if it's like sleeping, it would be wonderful. But... What makes sleep so wonderful is the fact that we wake up, I think. How would you ever appreciate how good sleep feels if you didn't have some sort of feeling about sleep, sleep wouldn't be anything. It's like those moments between waking up and falling asleep, we feel good because our bodies don't have to think about anything, and then the pain starts coming back, but it's those moments of relief that we only appreciate because we wake up??

I don't know. it's really confusing.

Everyone here is entitled to believe what they want to believe. I think my beliefs stem from how I was raised, that there is some sort of afterlife.

The only problem is, I COULD choose to doubt it, but, why would I want to? How could I go out of this world knowing that there's no relief? Because, like the analogy before, you'd need to FEEL something to experience relief, so it's just enternal blankess behind blankness????

I... I think that there's like a sort of heaven. There's a sort of heavenly peace. A place not dissimilar to a dream, where you're so detatched from anything horrible. Maybe it's like in Supernatural, where you relive all your best moments in your life on repeat.

I hope it's something good.

I hope it's what everyone needs it to be.

 

[SoyImbecilaburrido]

What do you believe happens during and after death? I'm scared of the thought of reincarnation. I wouldn't want to go through pain (existence) again, maybe even worse off than in Uthis life. Do you think death is as bad as people really make it out to be?

Otherwise like muslim, i hope there no harem of women for me, in earth one is hell, seven woman must be deep hell. And even to think i never had girlfriend, how much this worldvis fucked

 

[goomsoom]

@itsmeagain nothingness is not blackness or a blank space you cannot feel or see it. If you do not exist then you cannot experience relief or pain. And we can only control our exit from this world.

 

[charlie_z]

I hope it's something good.

I hope it's what everyone needs it to be.

Does anything come after our physical death? I could muse on this question endlessly, but I feel it's a futile exercise. But I'm with itsmeagain; if there is something after this life, I hope it's a hell of a lot better than this reality.

 

[itsmeagain]

Does anything come after our physical death? I could muse on this question endlessly, but I feel it's a futile exercise. But I'm with itsmeagain; if there is something after this life, I hope it's a hell of a lot better than this reality.

It's just got to be... if somehow, someway there is... look for me.

 

[goomsoom]

But then it's a infinite loop of simulation and we will never be able to comprehend how from nothing anything can come into existence.

If God is playing with us, there is super god playing with god, super super god playing with super God and its a infinite loop.

 

[Smashingairwaves]

I hope it's like falling asleep. Just a bit painful. I can't imagine that there is a truly pain free death

 

[SoyImbecilaburrido]

This is so scary to think about. On one hand, if it's like sleeping, it would be wonderful. But... What makes sleep so wonderful is the fact that we wake up, I think. How would you ever appreciate how good sleep feels if you didn't have some sort of feeling about sleep, sleep wouldn't be anything. It's like those moments between waking up and falling asleep, we feel good because our bodies don't have to think about anything, and then the pain starts coming back, but it's those moments of relief that we only appreciate because we wake up??

I don't know. it's really confusing.

Everyone here is entitled to believe what they want to believe. I think my beliefs stem from how I was raised, that there is some sort of afterlife.

The only problem is, I COULD choose to doubt it, but, why would I want to? How could I go out of this world knowing that there's no relief? Because, like the analogy before, you'd need to FEEL something to experience relief, so it's just enternal blankess behind blankness????

I... I think that there's like a sort of heaven. There's a sort of heavenly peace. A place not dissimilar to a dream, where you're so detatched from anything horrible. Maybe it's like in Supernatural, where you relive all your best moments in your life on repeat.

I hope it's something good.

I hope it's what everyone needs it to be.

If God is playing with us, there is super god playing with god, super super god playing with super God and its a infinite loop.

You scare me

I hope it's like falling asleep. Just a bit painful. I can't imagine that there is a truly pain free death

If death is a fell a sleep?

I hope it's like falling asleep. Just a bit painful. I can't imagine that there is a truly pain free death

I think like will be future euthanasia

 

[goomsoom]

@charlie_z @itsmeagain @SoyImbecilaburrido a different perspective you guys might find interesting to read.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/life-and-existence-is-a-burden.28227/

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-a-temporary-problem.28911/page-2#post-568852

I hope it's like falling asleep. Just a bit painful. I can't imagine that there is a truly pain free death

pain or any feeling is just chemicals in your brains, think how doctors can stop pain with right medicines.

 

[itsmeagain]

@charlie_z @itsmeagain @SoyImbecilaburrido a different perspective you guys might find interesting to read.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/life-and-existence-is-a-burden.28227/

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-a-temporary-problem.28911/page-2#post-568852

pain or any feeling is just chemicals in your brains, think how doctors can stop pain with right medicines.

Thanks so much for the read. I find that interesting. So many people didn't ask to be born. I don't necessarily think that it's immoral to create another person, but with that mindset, yeah, I suppose I can see how someone would think that. I just believe that some people should perhaps have the choice when the pain outweighs the solutions.

 

[aloneintheworld]

If God is playing with us, there is super god playing with god, super super god playing with super God and its a infinite loop.

It makes sense when I'm playing the sims and there's too many sims to play with in my household I start to mess them up and all their needs aren't met as well and they aren't as happy or successful if there are one or two or three. Maybe that's what's happening in the world. More people in the world and god can't keep up with the game so more people are depressed, anxious, hungry, suffering, strange nervous system diseases/so many chronic illnesses with no cure etc. but there are a select few that gods really focusing on to be really successful that's why the upper 1% is so upper and the rest are on auto pilot almost until he remembers occasionally to check our needs bar

 

[SoyImbecilaburrido]

It makes sense when I'm playing the sims and there's too many sims to play with in my household I start to mess them up and all their needs aren't met as well and they aren't as happy or successful if there are one or two or three. Maybe that's what's happening in the world. More people in the world and god can't keep up with the game so more people are depressed, anxious, hungry, suffering, strange nervous system diseases/so many chronic illnesses with no cure etc. but there are a select few that gods really focusing on to be really successful that's why the upper 1% is so upper and the rest are on auto pilot almost until he remembers occasionally to check our needs bar

Games not improve like real life, is only a big pacman

 

[itsmeagain]

It makes sense when I'm playing the sims and there's too many sims to play with in my household I start to mess them up and all their needs aren't met as well and they aren't as happy or successful if there are one or two or three. Maybe that's what's happening in the world. More people in the world and god can't keep up with the game so more people are depressed, anxious, hungry, suffering, strange nervous system diseases/so many chronic illnesses with no cure etc. but there are a select few that gods really focusing on to be really successful that's why the upper 1% is so upper and the rest are on auto pilot almost until he remembers occasionally to check our needs bar

I love this analogy. It's so adorable. (Not to be offensive if you believe in this, I mean that it's a wonderful way of looking at it, and it makes me happy to think of it this way.)

 

[aloneintheworld]

Games not improve like real life, is only a big pacman

I don't understand what you're saying can you rephrase it please?

 

[goomsoom]

Thanks so much for the read. I find that interesting. So many people didn't ask to be born. I don't necessarily think that it's immoral to create another person, but with that mindset, yeah, I suppose I can see how someone would think that. I just believe that some people should perhaps have the choice when the pain outweighs the solutions.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/birth-from-the-perspective-of-the-baby.30793/

With everything said I am also not above selfishness and hypocrisy, I want to meet some members from here after life but it doesn't exist :(

 

[aloneintheworld]

I love this analogy. It's so adorable. (Not to be offensive if you believe in this, I mean that it's a wonderful way of looking at it, and it makes me happy to think of it this way.)

I don't know what I believe I am just theorizing it since someone brought up that what if life was just a simulation. I am really scared of what happens when I die which is why I have been planning dates and not going through with CTB for a month and a half now it sucks tbh because I want that peace but fear takes over me. I like my sims analogy though

 

[itsmeagain]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/birth-from-the-perspective-of-the-baby.30793/

With everything said I am also not above selfishness and hypocrisy, I want to meet some members from here after life but it doesn't exist :(

We can only speculate and believe. Won't know till we get there <3

I don't know what I believe I am just theorizing it since someone brought up that what if life was just a simulation. I am really scared of what happens when I die which is why I have been planning dates and not going through with CTB for a month and a half now it sucks tbh because I want that peace but fear takes over me. I like my sims analogy though

I completely understand. I'm really scared too. If you need, I'll comfort you in your time. So many people here will <3.

 

[SoyImbecilaburrido]

I love this analogy. It's so adorable. (Not to be offensive if you believe in this, I mean that it's a wonderful way of looking at it, and it makes me happy to think of it this way.)

NPC or no playable characters, in games you have more choicevto win, real life is the real game, no guess that we need more difficult games for low our minds the streess of real life, orvget out of depresaion, games, games are little meds ( medication) for male kids, google this target called NPC character

 

[goomsoom]

It makes sense when I'm playing the sims and there's too many sims to play with in my household I start to mess them up and all their needs aren't met as well and they aren't as happy or successful if there are one or two or three. Maybe that's what's happening in the world. More people in the world and god can't keep up with the game so more people are depressed, anxious, hungry, suffering, strange nervous system diseases/so many chronic illnesses with no cure etc. but there are a select few that gods really focusing on to be really successful that's why the upper 1% is so upper and the rest are on auto pilot almost until he remembers occasionally to check our needs bar

IMO top 1% are the worst people with no empathy, sympathy, hoarding everything, selfish, everything they do is to gain more power and wealth. How can such a person be ever happy who is always so hungry?

 

[SoyImbecilaburrido]

I don't understand what you're saying can you rephrase it please?

Games are for one player, to pass level, level up then we come more agressive, games end, game death, improve means that a live can suprass even real life difficult

IMO top 1% are the worst people with no empathy, sympathy, hoarding everything, selfish, everything they do is to gain more power and wealth. How can such a person be ever happy who is always so hungry?

Games are meds, and you dont realise?

 

[goomsoom]

We can only speculate and believe. Won't know till we get there <3

cool if I become a ghost I will come to meet you, don't get scared if you see me. Chant my username 3 times if you want me to go away.

 

[SoyImbecilaburrido]

cool if I become a ghost I will come to meet you, don't get scared if you see me. Chant my username 3 times if you want me to go away.

This is a suicidal page you know?