ImReady

ImReady

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Aug 26, 2020
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right now I feel certain that I want to CTB.
I want to buy N from A, when I get the email address.
people want me to go to therapy which I might do just to humour them.

I'm just frustrated that I can't say I want to die without people freaking out. I don't even know what I would say to a therapist, I wouldn't want them to put me in hospital or anything.
 
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SoIntoYou

SoIntoYou

Pillowman
Jul 9, 2020
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If you say to your therapist that you want to die and EVEN hint that you're going to follow through with it, he or she has a professional and legal obligation to directly interfere with your life.
 
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schopenh

schopenh

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Oct 21, 2019
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I highly recommend denying thoughts of suicide and certainly never admit to having plans and being methodical. Most people fundamentally aren't liars and do want some form of help, so lying feels innately wrong. But there is high chance of there being a poor outcome from telling healthcare members you feel suicidal. Time and time again people complain about the outcomes of engagement with mental healthcare, when I'm just sitting here wondering 'what did you expect?'. I see you're new. Stick around a week and wait for one or more posts of people angrily describing encounters with mental healthcare as if they should reasonably be expecting anything else.
If you want condescending advice, a prescription for some anti-depressants (or other medication), potential involuntary commitment or your family members and friends being advised to keep a close watch on you, then go for it. Because that's standard of care for these emotionless golems.
 
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LenkaX

LenkaX

Maybe there is a hope!
Aug 14, 2020
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For me, therapists were just a waste of money, time and energy. You open yourself to a strange person who doesn't give a shit about you when you are not directly on the session. And they are normies who can't really understand your problem.
 
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ImReady

ImReady

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Aug 26, 2020
15
yeah, I agree with you guys. but I have booked to see them just to get my dad and boyfriend off my back about it. so expensive too.
 
Nymph

Nymph

he/him
Jul 15, 2020
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You could say you want to die and even that you have a plan but don't say you have the things to ctb. I told my psychiatrist that I want to die and that I have a plan and she told me that it's fine if I don't act on it. Like wtf thanks for nothing. Wouldn't want to be in a ward but something else would have been nicer to say
 
Jellyfish42

Jellyfish42

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Aug 23, 2020
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If you want their help on the matter, then you should tell the therapist the truth even if it means you may spend some time in the hospital.

If you've pretty much decided to CTB then don't bother going or if you have to keep up appearances then you will have to lie to them. From my experience it seems pretty uncomfortable for therapists to talk about the topic also so unless you're dropping hints then I don't think they will pester you about suicide too much.
 
BeenDoneForSoLong

BeenDoneForSoLong

Can't wait to be another statistic
Feb 6, 2019
82
You can talk about wanting to die. Just don't say how. If you say you know how you're going to do it and give them the method, they will always follow through with detaining you (at least they're supposed to). They don't have to hospitalise you just because you're suicidal. You can even say that you don't want that to happen and that it would negatively impact your mental health.

I think therapy CAN absolutely help, it's worth a shot.
 
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TAW122

TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
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Most of the posters here are spot on and the general idea is that as long as you don't have a plan, means to carry it out (methods and tools), or imminently. In my opinion (speaking for myself), I wouldn't go simply because it doesn't help me and also the additional risk associated with saying the wrong thing (leads to additional probing and questioning/fishing out stuff to use against me) and risking hospitalization. Oh and if you get hospitalized, you are responsible for hospital bills incurred by the encounter (which could be enough to push some people over the edge).

For me, therapists were just a waste of money, time and energy. You open yourself to a strange person who doesn't give a shit about you when you are not directly on the session. And they are normies who can't really understand your problem.
I agree with you and at the end, that's pretty much my sentiments as well. I've been to no less than a dozen mental health professionals (therapists, counselors, social workers, etc.)

If your therapist is beautiful and attractive, try to convince them to have sex with you in their office. Therapy sex is best sex.
I don't think that would be a good idea since therapists are bound by ethical standards (and potentially legal standards to adhere to, depending on jurisdiction). So they can't get intimate with their clients for the risk of losing their license or getting reprimands on their track record.
 
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Caspers

Caspers

Lost
Jun 23, 2020
403
If you're passively suicidal (thinking about it but don't have a plan and method), that's fine. If you're actively suicidal (have/creating a plan and in the process of obtaining what's needed), then you need to be hospitalised. If you tell them you have passive thoughts but have no intention for it, then there is no way they have a right to hospitalise you. They can only section you if you are at risk to yourself or other people. If they ask you how you would do it, pretend you have no clue.

My therapist has known me for nearly three years, and I can tell him I am thinking of suicide and once even told him I'm considering how to do it and he won't hospitalise me. He knows he would traumatise me and break any trust we have unless I truly needed it. Once you know them better, you could say you're terrified of being hospitalised and have difficulty confiding in them because of that, and slowly you may be able to talk to them more about suicide. Every therapist is different about talking about suicide and trusting clients though, so take my relationship with mine with a pinch of salt.
 
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