what can i use from a chemistry lab to ctb?

[slightoverlooked]

Hello,

i got a job at my university in the IT department and my keys will also work for the lab. What can you think of that could help me ctb? It's not a big lab focused on geology but I heard we had hydrofluoric acid but I don't know if that could be of any use. Any ideas?
Has anyone here with access to a lab ctb successfully?

 

[UKscotty]

Don't use acid, that sounds super painful.

I guess depending on the lab depends what they have.

Could have or make SN, could make pentobarbital, might have potassium cyanide, maybe has chloroform, likely could easily make a setup for CO, H2S, nitrogen or helium etc, it really depends

 

[dweams]

Does the lab have sodium azide? This chemical is often used to commit suicide. Here's a link to a case report about it: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10385699/.

 

[slightoverlooked]

Don't use acid, that sounds super painful.

I guess depending on the lab depends what they have.

Could have or make SN, could make pentobarbital, might have potassium cyanide, maybe has chloroform, likely could easily make a setup for CO, H2S, nitrogen or helium etc, it really depends

I will look what they have when I got my keys. I get my key in march. Is there a tutorial on how to make pentobarbital? Im gonna be honest my friend told me that its not that hard to make SN but I didn't catch his instructions. I dont think his intentions were for me to understand anyway. i told him about ctb with SN one time and I think he got worried and did research.

Does the lab have sodium azide? This chemical is often used to commit suicide. Here's a link to a case report about it: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10385699/.

I will check for it. I never worked in the lab but many of my friends work there. its for preparing rock samples and more. but most of my friends did mundane work like mortaring

 

[UKscotty]

I don't think SN is as hard as people say, there are YouTube videos on it.

Someone posted about making pentobarbital the other day, I will see if I can find it. Again, I don't think it's that difficult either.

 

[slightoverlooked]

I don't think SN is as hard as people say, there are YouTube videos on it.

Someone posted about making pentobarbital the other day, I will see if I can find it. Again, I don't think it's that difficult either.

thank you! i will try and make my research when time comes closer. going into the lab and grabbing some things would be easier than ordering stuff from the dark net ig

 

[dweams]

I will check for it. I never worked in the lab but many of my friends work there. its for preparing rock samples and more. but most of my friends did mundane work like mortaring

It's likely to be there because it's commonly used as a chemical preservative to prevent the growth of microorganisms on samples.

 

[slightoverlooked]

It's likely to be there because it's commonly used as a chemical preservative to prevent the growth of microorganisms on samples.

Is there any concentration I have to pay attention too? I just googled a little more and it seems like it could be a painful drawn out death if its not highly concentrated.

 

[Intoxicated]

i got a job at my university in the IT department and my keys will also work for the lab. What can you think of that could help me ctb?

Money. Which can be used for purchasing necessary chemicals.

 

[dweams]

Is there any concentration I have to pay attention too? I just googled a little more and it seems like it could be a painful drawn out death if its not highly concentrated.

According to the paper, between 2.6 and 262 mg/L in the blood is fatal. So maybe go over 262 mg just to be sure?

 

[slightoverlooked]

Money. Which can be used for purchasing necessary chemicals.

i cant order anything in the name of the lab. i dont work in or for the lab. I am just working in the IT department but my keys will work for the whole institute.

According to the paper, between 2.6 and 262 mg/L in the blood is fatal. So maybe go over 262 mg just to be sure?

thank you!

 

[dweams]

I did a little more research and found this article from the CDC: https://emergency.cdc.gov/agent/sodiumazide/basics/facts.asp.

According to the article, ingesting a large amount can cause loss of consciousness. Hopefully this happens to you, so you won't feel any pain. Also, there is currently no antidote for sodium azide, so if you are found and taken to the hospital, there isn't much medical professionals can do.

Here are some calculations to convert the 262 mg/L into mg/cup:

1 Liter = 4.22675 Cups

so

262 Miligrams / 1 Liter = 262 Miligrams / 4.22675 Cups

now divide mg by cups

262 Miligrams / 4.22675 Cups = 61.9861595789 Miligrams / 1 Cup

round the mg

61.98 mg/cup

And just to be sure that this is a definite lethal amount, increase it to 70 or 80 mg/cup. [Edit: I was wrong. Don't do 70 to 80 mg/cup. Instead, increase to about 15,000 to 20,000 mg/cup or 15 to 20 g/cup.] Mix the sodium azide in 1 cup of water and drink it. Be sure to drink quickly, though, because the sodium azide will react with the water and make a toxic gas that will probably knock you out before you finish drinking.

The effects should begin to appear within minutes.

Hope this helps you.

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I just realized that there is an entire thread on SS dedicated to this: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sodium-azide-megathread.7465/.

 

[slightoverlooked]

I did a little more research and found this article from the CDC: https://emergency.cdc.gov/agent/sodiumazide/basics/facts.asp.

According to the article, ingesting a large amount can cause loss of consciousness. Hopefully this happens to you, so you won't feel any pain. Also, there is currently no antidote for sodium azide, so if you are found and taken to the hospital, there isn't much medical professionals can do.

Here are some calculations to convert the 262 mg/L into mg/cup:

1 Liter = 4.22675 Cups

so

262 Miligrams / 1 Liter = 262 Miligrams / 4.22675 Cups

now divide mg by cups

262 Miligrams / 4.22675 Cups = 61.9861595789 Miligrams / 1 Cup

round the mg

61.98 mg/cup

And just to be sure that this is a definite lethal amount, increase it to 70 or 80 mg/cup. Mix the sodium azide in 1 cup of water and drink it. Be sure to drink quickly, though, because the sodium azide will react with the water and make a toxic gas that will probably knock you out before you finish drinking.

The effects should begin to appear within minutes.

Hope this helps you.

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I just realized that there is an entire thread on SS dedicated to this: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sodium-azide-megathread.7465/.

Woahh this helps me so much and I dont have to do much research. Thank you! Even though im really grateful for your help it does feel weird getting help to ctb. It feels weird but also nice to have free will over how i will die and get useful information

 

[dweams]

Even though im really grateful for your help it does feel weird getting help to ctb. It feels weird but also nice to have free will over how i will die and get useful information

I like to do a lot of research and want to help people on here. I'm happy this helps you. :)

 

[sanction]

I like to do a lot of research and want to help people on here. I'm happy this helps you. :)

I think you will be great asset to this community. Since many of us are very exhausted to use our brains from our depression, or just overly stressed to figure out too much small details in general. If you're able to help break down certain complex steps and details for complicated things, it will be helpful

 

[dweams]

And just to be sure that this is a definite lethal amount, increase it to 70 or 80 mg/cup.

I was wrong. Don't do 70 to 80 mg/cup. Instead, increase to about 15,000 to 20,000 mg/cup or 15 to 20 g/cup.

I found a post on the SS sodium azide thread that links to an image showing various reported sodium azide intoxications. It seems that ingesting multiple grams of sodium azide is much more likely to kill you than to leave you surviving with life-debilitating injuries.

Here's the post: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sodium-azide-megathread.7465/post-151230.

Here's the image: .

I think you will be great asset to this community. Since many of us are very exhausted to use our brains from our depression, or just overly stressed to figure out too much small details in general. If you're able to help break down certain complex steps and details for complicated things, it will be helpful

Thank you for the kind words. I'll do my best to keep things as accurate and easy to understand as possible.

 

[slightoverlooked]

I was wrong. Don't do 70 to 80 mg/cup. Instead, increase to about 15,000 to 20,000 mg/cup or 15 to 20 g/cup.

I found a post on the SS sodium azide thread that links to an image showing various reported sodium azide intoxications. It seems that ingesting multiple grams of sodium azide is much more likely to kill you than to leave you surviving with life-debilitating injuries.

Here's the post: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sodium-azide-megathread.7465/post-151230.

Here's the image: .



Thank you for the kind words. I'll do my best to keep things as accurate and easy to understand as possible.

I will probably come back here to let you know if we have sodium azide and how much we got…i hope its a lot and i will probably do it in the university building on a sunday.

 

[Rev346]

If you're in a geology lab look for cinnibar (contains lots of mercury) or one other mineral with lots of arsenic in it such as realgar or arsenopyrite. I remember in my mineralogy lab the As mineral was in a container that we couldn't touch. Many minerals contain metals that are deadly. There's a chance that some are stored in your lab.

 

[oneeyed]

If there's stuff in there you can use to make pentobarbital or something, you can be sasu's Walter White lol

 

[Deadfrogwalking]

Sounds like you need a lab assistant.
I would like to apply for the position.

 

[DepressedChemMajor]

If you're in a geology lab look for cinnibar (contains lots of mercury) or one other mineral with lots of arsenic in it such as realgar or arsenopyrite. I remember in my mineralogy lab the As mineral was in a container that we couldn't touch. Many minerals contain metals that are deadly. There's a chance that some are stored in your lab.

Heavy metal poisoning IS NOT the way to go. Takes a long time, and you kinda suffer. I ingested lead back in 2023, and I'm still anxious about where it is in my body now.

I don't think SN is as hard as people say, there are YouTube videos on it.

Someone posted about making pentobarbital the other day, I will see if I can find it. Again, I don't think it's that difficult either.

The issue isn't synthesis of SN, the issue is the purification of SN to >95%.

I don't think a geology lab will have the necessary reagents to make Pentobarbital. Even if it does, then comes the issue of purification. (I assume OP has no prior chemlab experience, I apologise if my assumption is wrong)

I was wrong. Don't do 70 to 80 mg/cup. Instead, increase to about 15,000 to 20,000 mg/cup or 15 to 20 g/cup.

I found a post on the SS sodium azide thread that links to an image showing various reported sodium azide intoxications. It seems that ingesting multiple grams of sodium azide is much more likely to kill you than to leave you surviving with life-debilitating injuries.

Here's the post: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sodium-azide-megathread.7465/post-151230.

Here's the image: .



Thank you for the kind words. I'll do my best to keep things as accurate and easy to understand as possible.

Hi, don't you think 20g is a bit too much? Assuming LD50 is 10mg/kg, and OP is 70kgs, sounds like 1.5g would do. Also, why have you converted Litres of blood into cups of blood? (Ofc more is better, but there comes the issue of vomiting and unintended exposure of others to hydrazoic acid gas)

 

[slightoverlooked]

Heavy metal poisoning IS NOT the way to go. Takes a long time, and you kinda suffer. I ingested lead back in 2023, and I'm still anxious about where it is in my body now.

The issue isn't synthesis of SN, the issue is the purification of SN to >95%.

I don't think a geology lab will have the necessary reagents to make Pentobarbital. Even if it does, then comes the issue of purification. (I assume OP has no prior chemlab experience, I apologise if my assumption is wrong)

Hi, don't you think 20g is a bit too much? Assuming LD50 is 10mg/kg, and OP is 70kgs, sounds like 1.5g would do. Also, why have you converted Litres of blood into cups of blood? (Ofc more is better, but there comes the issue of vomiting and unintended exposure of others to hydrazoic acid gas)

I only had one internship in a lab but they only taught us stuff about detecting certain substances plus volumetric analysis.

Its not a big lab :(( I should have stolen stuff when i was in the chemistry building

Im anorexic and underweight :(( i want to be about 41-43 kg before i ctb.

 

[DepressedChemMajor]

I only had one internship in a lab but they only taught us stuff about detecting certain substances plus volumetric analysis.

Its not a big lab :(( I should have stolen stuff when i was in the chemistry building

Im anorexic and underweight :(( i want to be about 41-43 kg before i ctb.

Oh, I see. If you can remember, let me know about the stuff that's in the lab.

 

[slightoverlooked]

Oh, I see. If you can remember, let me know about the stuff that's in the lab.

I will try and go into the lab soon when one of my friends work there and try and remember all the substances

If there's stuff in there you can use to make pentobarbital or something, you can be sasu's Walter White lol

hahaha honestly i doubt that im the only one on here with a lab around them. so many chem majors must live in wonderland with their knowledge and access to labs. at my university lots of students work for their institute or lab so I always asked myself what kind of substances they might have.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Not necessarily a pleasant way to pass but cyanide needs only about 250 mg to be lethal. 1g will do the job 100% though it might be painful for a few minutes.

 

[slightoverlooked]

Not necessarily a pleasant way to pass but cyanide needs only about 250 mg to be lethal. 1g will do the job 100% though it might be painful for a few minutes.

Thank you for the idea! I also considered cyanide but it doesnt sound that nice I want to die a little bit peacefully. its gonna be weird ctb in the university building tbh but i dont want my family to find me

 

[dweams]

I will probably come back here to let you know if we have sodium azide and how much we got…i hope its a lot and i will probably do it in the university building on a sunday.

Yes, definitely report back here. We'll help you figure this out. :)

Hi, don't you think 20g is a bit too much? Assuming LD50 is 10mg/kg, and OP is 70kgs, sounds like 1.5g would do.

I suggested 15 to 20 grams because I wanted to be absolutely sure that the sodium azide would CTB OP, according to the sources I provided earlier. I would be absolutely mortified if they tried this method and ended up surviving with multiple life debilitating injuries. But based on your measurements and OP saying they're underweight, 10 grams would probably be enough.

Also, why have you converted Litres of blood into cups of blood?

I'm American and have a hard time visualizing liters. So I converted the measurements to cups, which is the more common measurement where I from. Thinking about it now, it was probably bad for me to assume that OP was also American.

Additionally, I'm not sure why I assumed that the blood content would be the same as the amount originally ingested. I forgot that not everything is ingested. I messed up on that part... .-.

(Ofc more is better, but there comes the issue of vomiting and unintended exposure of others to hydrazoic acid gas)

True, vomiting would be a problem. So maybe OP could get antiemetic (anti-vomiting) medication either over the counter or by prescription. Getting the prescription hopefully won't be too hard. Maybe OP could tell their doctor that they're having trouble eating and feel sick every time they consume food. Or maybe a different excuse would work better?

 

[slightoverlooked]

Yes, definitely report back here. We'll help you figure this out. :)



I suggested 15 to 20 grams because I wanted to be absolutely sure that the sodium azide would CTB OP, according to the sources I provided earlier. I would be absolutely mortified if they tried this method and ended up surviving with multiple life debilitating injuries. But based on your measurements and OP saying they're underweight, 10 grams would probably be enough.



I'm American and have a hard time visualizing liters. So I converted the measurements to cups, which is the more common measurement where I from. Thinking about it now, it was probably bad for me to assume that OP was also American.

Additionally, I'm not sure why I assumed that the blood content would be the same as the amount originally ingested. I forgot that not everything is ingested. I messed up on that part... .-.



True, vomiting would be a problem. So maybe OP could get antiemetic (anti-vomiting) medication either over the counter or by prescription. Getting the prescription hopefully won't be too hard. Maybe OP could tell their doctor that they're having trouble eating and feel sick every time they consume food. Or maybe a different excuse would work better?

Im from europe but I can figure out the measurements in cups so no worries!
I could try getting some antiemetics but it wont be easy that's for sure..I'm a little scared of going to the doctor but when the time comes I might try.
I hope its okay when I vent here a little because I met my therapist today and told her that I am serious about ctb and I am still really unsure about wether I want to do it soon or wait. I feel shitty about postponing my ctb plans but maybe I should exhaust all my possibilities and chances in life before actually ctb...life is miserable and living with severe depression all my life is exhausting and every day feels like agony...but maybe there is a chance for me to live my life without feeling horrible every second. I dont know. no one can tell me whats right or wrong.
im sorry if i wasted your time and end up not ctb. i still appreciate this a lot and i didn't decide yet what I will do!

 

[DepressedChemMajor]

I suggested 15 to 20 grams because I wanted to be absolutely sure that the sodium azide would CTB OP, according to the sources I provided earlier. I would be absolutely mortified if they tried this method and ended up surviving with multiple life debilitating injuries. But based on your measurements and OP saying they're underweight, 10 grams would probably be enough.

Yeah 10-20g definitely seems enough for OP, assuming they don't barf it out haha.

Additionally, I'm not sure why I assumed that the blood content would be the same as the amount originally ingested. I forgot that not everything is ingested. I messed up on that part... .-.

That's the part I was confused about! Also, mg/L denotes concentration in blood here. Assuming OP has 5L of blood, ingested amount should be 13.1g (262mg/L from your source, assumes bioavailability is 100% as I couldn't find oral bioavailability of NaN3).

True, vomiting would be a problem. So maybe OP could get antiemetic (anti-vomiting) medication either over the counter or by prescription. Getting the prescription hopefully won't be too hard. Maybe OP could tell their doctor that they're having trouble eating and feel sick every time they consume food. Or maybe a different excuse would work better?

I think vomiting would still be a problem with antiemetics, as there are multiple reports of people still vomiting with AEs, and also being underweight might affect chances of vomiting (no idea on the relation between weight and vomiting tbh, so don't quote me on that lol)

The excuse you provided could definitely work. Being underweight might help with that excuse.

The hydrazoic acid could still be a problem here, but it is up to OP to decide.

 

[dweams]

I hope its okay when I vent here a little because I met my therapist today and told her that I am serious about ctb and I am still really unsure about wether I want to do it soon or wait. I feel shitty about postponing my ctb plans but maybe I should exhaust all my possibilities and chances in life before actually ctb...life is miserable and living with severe depression all my life is exhausting and every day feels like agony...but maybe there is a chance for me to live my life without feeling horrible every second. I dont know. no one can tell me whats right or wrong.
im sorry if i wasted your time and end up not ctb. i still appreciate this a lot and i didn't decide yet what I will do!

Of course it's okay to vent here! And whether you choose CTB or not is up to you. This forum, even though being suicide oriented, is all about pro-choice. No need to worry about wasting anyone's time by asking questions.

Also, mg/L denotes concentration in blood here. Assuming OP has 5L of blood, ingested amount should be 13.1g (262mg/L from your source, assumes bioavailability is 100% as I couldn't find oral bioavailability of NaN3).

Ah, that makes sense! I didn't consider looking into this before, so these explanations really help my understanding. Thank you!