What can be used instead of Meto? Benadryl? Phenergan?

[Meditation guide]

I don't want to use meto for the anti emetic, has anyone here used other things? I was thinking of phenergan which is an anti histamine that prevents nausea and vomiting. I got a suppository of phenergan in the hospital one time when I was vomiting.

I also read someone used pepto bismol. To me that makes sense cause it coats the stomach making it less sensitive, like it would protect it from the irritation of all that salt.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Honestly Mg, can't you get Dom as an alternative but if not then go with what you have tested and evaluated to work for you.

 

[Meditation guide]

There are other things to prevent vomiting so I guess meto is the strongest, but I'm not willing to risk the side effects. Also people take big quantities of it and then vomit anyway... I just wondered is anyone considering other things.

 

[nozomu]

PPeH has a section on antiemetics in their supplementary drugs chapter

 

[nozomu]

Also why don't you want to use meto?

 

[アホペンギン]

Also why don't you want to use meto?

Meto has some side effects, these include nausea and vomiting despite the fact that it is an antiemetic. Sometimes the antiemetic mechanism backfires.. I think that's why Meditation Guide doesn't want to use meto.

... I just wondered is anyone considering other things.

Other antiemetics will work, they are antiemetics after all but the thing that should be relied on the most is your ability to keep things down, instead of immediately vomiting if you don't have a very strong antiemetic. It's better than nothing…

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If you have it, use that pepto bismol thing you mentioned in addition to an antiemetic but avoid using too many meds, only use the meds that are absolutely necessary and in this case you'll need to combine a couple of things to overcome the nausea.

Like I mentioned earlier, don't use too many things to avoid the nausea, most of the time using more meds will contribute to the nausea.

 

[todeswunsch]

There's a guide on antiemetics: https://archive.is/HizRA
These thre are the main ones:

• 1. Prochlorperazine (Compazine) - this is the most potent dopamine blocker
• 2. Metoclopramide (Reglan)
• 3. Domperidone (Motilium) - this is the least potent dopamine blocker

From what I read, you need dopamine-blockers for nausea induced by OD.
Looks like Phenergan works on the histaminic receptors, which is another mechanism, more related to motion sickness nausea. I feel like this is not the type of med you're looking for.
I'm not that knowledgeable about it tho, but worth checking this out.

 

[Meditation guide]

Also why don't you want to use meto?

Meto can cause the nervous system to go haywire in some people and I study genetics, genes and how they affect various bodily mechanisms, and my extensive genetic report says I have a genetic code that people who have terrible reactions to meto have. When I say terrible reactions to it I mean uncontrollable body and muscle movements that just one dose can cause to be permanent. It's no drug I would ever take. I think they should ban it.

 

[nozomu]

Meto can cause the nervous system to go haywire in some people and I study genetics, genes and how they affect various bodily mechanisms, and my extensive genetic report says I have a genetic code that people who have terrible reactions to meto have. When I say terrible reactions to it I mean uncontrollable body and muscle movements that just one dose can cause to be permanent. It's no drug I would ever take. I think they should ban it.

I see. I've taken it a few times with no issues.

Do you know how to access PPeH? It's a sticky thread on the suicide sub forum

 

[Raindancer]

I get that reaction with meto, will never take it again! I was looking at phenergan as an option, but while researching, I read that it slows absorption which if I am not mistaken is the opposite of what's wanted. So I don't think phenergan is a good option.

 

[Meditation guide]

I get that reaction with meto, will never take it again! I was looking at phenergan as an option, but while researching, I read that it slows absorption which if I am not mistaken is the opposite of what's wanted. So I don't think phenergan is a good option.

Where did you read that? Do you mean slows absorption of SN or everything?
What about Ondansetron (Zofran)?

 

[Raindancer]

Where did you read that? Do you mean slows absorption of SN or everything?
What about Ondansetron (Zofran)?

When I looked up the medication, phenergan it said it slowed down gastric emptying All of the other meds listed on the SN list says they speed it up and from what I read I thought that was what is wanted. Zofran does not affect gastric emptying at all so it should be fine to take. I take both phenergan and Zofran for my stomach issues.

 

[Meditation guide]

My next question is this.. Why does speed of gastric emptying matter? If the SN is in the stomach does it not get absorbed? Does gastric emptying mean the SN travels from the stomach to the intestines and is that better?

I know it needs to be absorbed quickly but I thought it could be absorbed through the stomach? Thanks in advance if anyone has the answer.

 

[Aburach]

Higher speed of gastric emptying = higher speed of effects of substance as it spreads into the person's blood/body/system from the stomach, as far as I know.

On the anti-emetic - my solution if/when the time comes will be to test run it a few days before to make sure I don't have the nasty pyramidal effects (which I believe are quite rare). If I do, then that will be a bad experience but I can then make a plan B. Anti-emetics are strongly recommended due to the dopamine blocking quality.

 

[real person]

I don't want to use meto for the anti emetic, has anyone here used other things? I was thinking of phenergan which is an anti histamine that prevents nausea and vomiting. I got a suppository of phenergan in the hospital one time when I was vomiting.

I also read someone used pepto bismol. To me that makes sense cause it coats the stomach making it less sensitive, like it would protect it from the irritation of all that salt.

have you found a solution to your problem yet??