Discussion Well, it seems I won't have to kill myself, found the cure for y extreme depression and ptsd.

[ManWithNoName]

This is important. More people should know this can work.

There have been many articles by reputable journalists talking about the potential value of micro dosing mushrooms. From what I read the standard array of SSRI's are in fact not that effective as big pharma wants us to think. Man I think I need to get to Amsterdam.

 

[nw7]

Well they recently decriminalised/made legal, psyilocybin in Canada IIRC, didn't they? Studies have shown that it can & does work within reason, but shouldn't be shown as a miracle cure imo.

I wouldn't be surprised since Canada has been pretty forward thinking. I believe it was recently decriminalized in Denver, Colorado, and is on the ballot elsewhere.

I don't think psilocybin is legal in Canada. I believe it is illegal to possess, sell, or transport psilocybin.

If you visited the page of Controlled Drugs and Substances Act and searched for psilocybin, you'll find it as number 12 under SCHEDULE III. Also, in the same page you can search for Offences and Punishment.

By microdosing you won't trip at all. And when a bad trip happen you should accept it, learn from it, adapt to it and you ll be fine.
Bad trips are also rare. With a trip sitter you would-be fine.
when i began tripping, i was ready to accept watever i would experience, digest it, dissect it, learn from it without avoiding what i was shown, acceptance is the key.
it only hurts really when you are in denial /avoidance.

I'm interested. But, is it OK to trip alone without a trip setter?

 

[Berlin76]

So.
After 5 years of psychiatric treatment, it didn't fo shit to me and went disabled for 4 year.
Then dived 3 days in psychedelic shroom, psilocybe cubensis(psilocybin) .
One species made me learn how to enjoy life and everything again another mix of shroom took daily at a reduced dosage(2g) literally washed away my fatigue, from morning till sleep, unlocked my energy and removed me from being extremely hampered cognitively and physically.
Now i am fully enjoying life and i am perfectly and fully functional.
Not suicidal anymore.
I hope it will work for you too.
I sourced them from them from the darknet apollon.
Bye and stay safe.

Happy to see it worked for you.
I got rejected by the hospital here for test trials with Psilocybine. To much trauma related issues.

 

[ManWithNoName]

This report is not scientific, but thought it was interesting:

 

[OneBigBlur]

I've considered doing this but I don't see how it is any different than psychotropic drugs in the long run. You are masking symptoms, not tackling what causes them. I read a article a few weeks back of someone who microdosed for years and that eventually he stopped for very much the same reason. I'll link it if I can find it again.

If they can be used to resolve trauma then I'd agree that it's useful but drugging to suppress symptoms aka microdosing is not something that I'd personally do.

 

[LegaliseIt!]

Well they recently decriminalised/made legal, psyilocybin in Canada IIRC, didn't they? Studies have shown that it can & does work within reason, but shouldn't be shown as a miracle cure imo.

Wait,What? I had had no idea that shrooms were decriminalized in Canada ! My Christmas just got Merrier!
Oh...research first....

 

[chris8000]

I've considered doing this but I don't see how it is any different than psychotropic drugs in the long run. You are masking symptoms, not tackling what causes them. I read a article a few weeks back of someone who microdosed for years and that eventually he stopped for very much the same reason. I'll link it if I can find it again.

If they can be used to resolve trauma then I'd agree that it's useful but drugging to suppress symptoms aka microdosing is not something that I'd personally do.

I don't think they're the answer to PTSD and depression, but they're part of the solution. Effects from a trip can be long lasting and transformative, for example Paul Stamets cured his stutter using mushrooms. I'm not an expert on psilocybin but it seems it stimulates neurogenesis in the brain https://doi.org/10.1007/s00221-013-3579-0, which is when neurons grow and can make new connections. So it seems possible to me they may be used to heal from past trauma when taken with care and in a suitable environment.

Particularly for PTSD, MDMA may be the up and coming drug of choice, see https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2017.21917. I think future therapy is likely to involve all this stuff to some extent.

No I'm not a fan of drugging to suppress symptoms unless it's absolutely necessary for that person.

 

[TNDNBTG]

Ive been seeing a lot of positive stories about psychedelics use in treating and sometimes "curing" depression for those not receptive to pharma meds. I am totally open to at least trying it to see if it can help. I just have no idea how to get on board with clinical trials. In the past few days ive reached out to a group that are doing trials, hopefully I'll hear back.

On the other hand I came across a post of a member trying DMT and if anything that absolutely terrifies the fuck out of me. Already suffering from every form of anxiety it would probably permanently scar me or send me into psychosis lol

Any others with experiences with psychedelics or alternatives they would suggest? And ways to try to get on with trials, etc?

 

[ManWithNoName]

If they can be used to resolve trauma then I'd agree that it's useful but drugging to suppress symptoms aka microdosing is not something that I'd personally do.

That is my understanding of the fundamental difference between a standard big pharma antidepressant, and microdosing Psilocybine—that the former just covers / suppresses the symptoms, where the latter helps the mind cognitively or subconsciously work through one's issues. If Psilocybine does help an individual's creative aspect, then this might also allow for speculation that it in helps one work through their issues, as opposed to simply covering up the negative manifestations.
And found this:

 

[Emily123]

Wow! That's really amazing, this might be the first post I've seen where someone was cured and dramatically better. I had started hormone replacement which after some days of no sleep since they put it in me I'm a little worried. I literally cannot sleep and it's killed my appetite. Today I need to call and find out why the hell I cannot sleep this is kind of serious because I will get psychosis and hallucinate if I'm not getting at least a full night every couple days. I might try I what u are doing, congratulations! That is really wonderful news. Keep us updated.

I have sleeping problem but it was not because of HRT . There were other side effects but sleeping was not one of them for me .

Emily, I glad to hear that things improved a little bit for you.
Did you tripped on mushrooms recently and they change your mind?
I can't accept my the outcome of my surgery, just can't even if main flaw is supposed to be fixable. Maybe I should do mushrooms too before doing something final...

I am not fixable . I don't belong to this world . I am going to do it January .

 

[sleepy dog]

So.
After 5 years of psychiatric treatment, it didn't fo shit to me and went disabled for 4 year.
Then dived 3 days in psychedelic shroom, psilocybe cubensis(psilocybin) .
One species made me learn how to enjoy life and everything again another mix of shroom took daily at a reduced dosage(2g) literally washed away my fatigue, from morning till sleep, unlocked my energy and removed me from being extremely hampered cognitively and physically.
Now i am fully enjoying life and i am perfectly and fully functional.
Not suicidal anymore.
I hope it will work for you too.
I sourced them from them from the darknet apollon.
Bye and stay safe.

I really don't think it will work long term. But I won't be trying it to find out. All the same things that can be read in this thread are the same things that happened with other substances. There is no cure. You did not find one. LSD, Prozac, Lithium, electric shock, penicillin, cannabis, and many others. They all were thought to be found cures in the beginning. LSD was used as an anti-psychotic after it was first made. It has driven people insane. Charles Manson and his group loved LSD. My personal experience tells me that constantly changing the chemistry in the brain destroys the mind. But I am just one person, just one opinion.

 

[Pricelessadvice]

Hey, I am glad you found relief.
Ketamine heals,too.

 

[chris8000]

I really don't think it will work long term. But I won't be trying it to find out. All the same things that can be read in this thread are the same things that happened with other substances. There is no cure. You did not find one. LSD, Prozac, Lithium, electric shock, penicillin, cannabis, and many others. They all were thought to be found cures in the beginning. LSD was used as an anti-psychotic after it was first made. It has driven people insane. Charles Manson and his group loved LSD. My personal experience tells me that constantly changing the chemistry in the brain destroys the mind. But I am just one person, just one opinion.

Yeah I don't think there is anything you can take or will be able to take which is a magic bullet and will cure this type of problem either, because it comes from the mind not the body, it's not like an infection or cancer. My point is some kind of session or trip, or a few of these, might improve things so you see things differently and then start doing other stuff that helps. I don't think LSD has a therapeutic place actually, it is too strong IMO, mushrooms seem milder and are being tested clinically much more from what I have seen.

Psychedelics on a continuous long term basis, I don't like the idea of that. A lot of people thought too much of psychedelics and thought they were the answer to their problems, to get enlightened etc, and then they went batshit crazy. That was me for a while, a crazy man. The way out of that, psychological shit, for me to what I would consider a cure, was many years of meditation and no drugs. Not saying that is going to cure everyone's problems because everyones on their own journey through this thing, but we have to think out of the box because drugging people up with pharma stuff, and talking to them now and again does not seem effective.

 

[APharmaDestroyedLife]

I've seen so much positive research on this. Some studies show it even reconnects , rebuilds, and even creates new neuro networks.

Pretty much anyone can find the spores and get a growers kit legally.

 

[cosmicpixiedust]

I'm so glad that it's helped you, OP! That is wonderful news! <3
I've been using psychedelics to find/address/help treat my mental health issues for years, but I've only recently started toying with the idea of microdosing. This gives me hope that (once I get my finances in order) I could finally find a sense of calm. I also want to one day try an ayahuasca ceremony, but that day is far into the future (if there is a future, that is).

 

[Reyki6667]

OP what is your dose for the big days, and then the microdosing days?

is the recommendation to trip big before microdosing? I am really scared to trip big again - the microdosing doesn't help me by itself.... I have some microdosing pills, and could neck them all - but they scare me.

This definitely has some good reivews though, this mushroom route...

I am 1.5 /2 g. I may trip for 20 min but the curative effects last me all day long. You ll have to experiment on yourself to find the fine line between trippin and not. We all have different bodies and pathologies severity.

I'm so glad that it's helped you, OP! That is wonderful news! <3
I've been using psychedelics to find/address/help treat my mental health issues for years, but I've only recently started toying with the idea of microdosing. This gives me hope that (once I get my finances in order) I could finally find a sense of calm. I also want to one day try an ayahuasca ceremony, but that day is far into the future (if there is a future, that is).

The blend mexicano /Cambodia psilocybe cubensis is the one that make me the most productive.
i will grow them now since it's way cheaper and reliable. On the forum shroomery and zamnesia you have everything at disposal to help you in your endeavors.

I really don't think it will work long term. But I won't be trying it to find out. All the same things that can be read in this thread are the same things that happened with other substances. There is no cure. You did not find one. LSD, Prozac, Lithium, electric shock, penicillin, cannabis, and many others. They all were thought to be found cures in the beginning. LSD was used as an anti-psychotic after it was first made. It has driven people insane. Charles Manson and his group loved LSD. My personal experience tells me that constantly changing the chemistry in the brain destroys the mind. But I am just one person, just one opinion.

It's do or die for me and i don't care, for now it works and i feel less and less the need to microdose.
https://www.howtousepsychedelics.org/.
Brain chemistry? Well mine was extremely screwed by the illness and shrooms literally are curing me. By the way they are more safer and healthier than any big pharma psychiatric bull crap i had for 5 years that only worsened my health and increased the severity of my illness.

 

[Sensei]

OP, congratulations! It's always extremely encouraging when someone finds a way out of misery other than death. I'm desperate and will continue dabbling in (almost) any legal hallucinogens I can get hold of. Yes, there are risks and it can be scary, but as Reyki6667 says, it's do or die.

 

[chris8000]

OP, congratulations! It's always extremely encouraging when someone finds a way out of misery other than death. I'm desperate and will continue dabbling in (almost) any legal hallucinogens I can get hold of. Yes, there are risks and it can be scary, but as Reyki6667 says, it's do or die.

Well yeah if it's a choice between death and the mushrooms, I'd go with the mushrooms. If it doesn't work at least you got high.

 

[porfin1234]

I always wondered if psychedelics would help or exacerbate my mental health issues.

 

[Reyki6667]

Update. Suicidal thinking seems extremely foreign to me now and stopped.

Note : some antidepressant and antipsycotic are antagonist to shrooms, meaning eitheir stopping them progressively or upping the shrooms dosage.

 

[faraway_beach]

Very interested and curious about this. I'd like to try to fix my mind, and it's very encouraging to hear that this is still working for you. Congratulations and continued good luck!

 

[hahabye]

To those who are doing microdosing, do you still take full doses to trip?

Also, has anyone tried it with truffles? Since mushrooms are illegal here.

 

[mplslonely]

I did a full trip on truffles while in Amsterdam as the first experience. Basically cleared away a lot of the anxiety and doubt that was causing me to spiral. I since switched to a type called Penis Envy that I found on the Darkweb. I don't micro at all but try to do a full trip every 90 days or so when I can feel it creeping back in.

It is just weird as hell as it rewires your brain during it. I can remember things so much better and I have a tooth issue that always flairs back up with the repaired nerves.

 

[itsmeagain]

I'm very curious. I don't think I'd ever order off the deepweb for obvious reasons like getting busted or things of the like, plus, given that I'm at college which is a slippery slope in itself with IT and everything, especially considering that the package would come to my university.

I also don't want to start sourcing them from anyone. I'm trying to do multiple things before I CTB, and I think that maybe this sort of thing would be interesting.

obviously you can't just go out in the wild andstart snacking on some shrooms. Is there a different process that people as wary as me go through to try this sort of thing?

I've seen so much positive research on this. Some studies show it even reconnects , rebuilds, and even creates new neuro networks.

Pretty much anyone can find the spores and get a growers kit legally.

I made a post about this... what sort of grower kit/opportunities are there in the us? (the post is down below)

 

[mplslonely]

They grow naturally outdoors especially out by like Portland Oregon. There is a Doctor who is a huge mushroom advocate on youtube that basically says they grow right in the campgrounds at state parks. Here is what I got from my contact/source. Level of 'stealth' is amazing really and stupid cheap compared to the street prices.

 

[Iloveyouall]

I didn't read all of this thread already but this is truly fascinating. I'm glad you feel better OP.

 

[hahabye]

I was so optimistic about psychodelics after reading this, but trying them myself just made me realise how shit my life was more deeply and made me want to kill myself even more.

So be careful.

 

[Dante71]

M
Maybe your dosage wasn't enough?
Or maybe because i began with tripping and increased each time the dosage?
i don't know.
some people just refer to tripping first so you see everything about yourself, then push down to a dosage where you won't trip.

never mind im reading above

 

[blackpaper]

Yea I definitely want to try psilocybin too, as one of my last options. The altering of the ego-state induced by them really interests me. I want to see if they induce a egoless state like the one I had while meditating some time ago. So if the research is correct and its the case, I can really see how it helps people. I think every human should have the opportunity to experience a such a valuable and liberating state of mind.

 

[Sk1n1M1n]

But using microdoses is usually works without the psychosis