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Ernest1964

Specialist
Jan 6, 2023
363
Here is a statement, agree or disagree, either way is fine:

It takes just as much faith to CTB as it takes to continue to live.
 
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LittleCupcake

Experienced
Mar 14, 2024
205
Depends if you still got the SI if you dont then it'll be a breeze.
 
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Raven2

Specialist
Dec 1, 2022
359
I guess it's a leap of faith to ctb we have no idea what awaits us, if anything, after death.
Who knows what is round the corner in life but personally for me to continue to live, all I see for the future is getting old, seeing older family members pass away and more sorrow.
Until I decide that the fear of life outweighs the fear of death then I'll still be here.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
38,873
Continuing to exist doesn't take anything as if one doesn't manage to ctb which is so unnecessarily difficult to do they have no choice but to continue existing. I'm tired of feeling trapped in this existence that was so harmfully imposed in the first place, if suicide is actually accessible it'd prevent so much suffering, it's hellish to me how we cannot have the option to just easily die in peace.
 
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ringo99

Arcanist
Apr 18, 2023
424
Not sure if it's a question of faith in either case
 
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Namarupa

Student
Jan 24, 2024
112
I think courage is the key word. Both killing yourself and choosing to live through the pain can be equally courageous acts.
 
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UKscotty

Doesn't read PMs
May 20, 2021
2,450
Takes a lot more faith to CTB than live I think. CTB is final last resort, giving up all hope at life. It can't be undone.

I think something must be keeping us here in life, hope and SI.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
9,829
Depends on how firm your faith or non belief or panicked uncertainty is. For someone (like me) who isn't convinced at all about what comes next- if anything, to some extent, dying seems the bigger gamble. I have more chance of predicting what will happen to me in the next few months or years if I live. I have more control over it too. Death feels like a massive gamble to someone who isn't sure. I actually really envy stern atheists.
 
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DreamEnd

Enlightened
Aug 4, 2022
1,892
Depends on how firm your faith or non belief or panicked uncertainty is. For someone (like me) who isn't convinced at all about what comes next- if anything, to some extent, dying seems the bigger gamble. I have more chance of predicting what will happen to me in the next few months or years if I live. I have more control over it too. Death feels like a massive gamble to someone who isn't sure. I actually really envy stern atheists.
Ikr if I just could firmly believe that there is absolutely non existence I would feel so much more confident in my decisions.
 
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Final_Choice

Mage
Aug 3, 2023
544
In my opinion it's kind of hard to answer this. For example, some days it's easier to keep going than others while at the same time if I CTB in an impulse based on heightened emotions but still do everything correctly as planned and do it successfully it would be easier compared to doing it in more relaxed emotions. Though I don't think I really answered the question since what I'm talking about wouldn't really be faith.
 

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